Choosing Life: Amy Dial's Courageous Stand and Her Mission to Defend the Voiceless

In this powerful episode of Hope Unlocked, host Kristin Kurtz welcomes Amy Dial, founder of Fit for the Kingdom, to share her incredible testimony of faith and courage. Facing an unplanned pregnancy, Amy stood at a life-altering crossroads. She chose life for her son—a decision that became a turning point not just for her family, but for her purpose.

Through God’s grace and guidance, Amy’s decision sparked a journey of healing, transformation, and advocacy. Today, she is a bold voice in the pro-life movement, championing the value of every life. Her story is one of unwavering faith, radical obedience to God, and a deep commitment to be a light in the darkness.

This episode will inspire you to reflect on the power of one brave decision and how God can use your story to bring hope and freedom to others. Tune in to be encouraged and reminded that every life matters and that God has a beautiful plan for every life—a plan that can unfold in ways beyond what we could ever imagine when we trust Him.

Amy's contact info:
Website - https://bookme.name/fit4thekingdomoutreach
Email- Amanda.dial513@gmail.com
Facebook
Instagram
Voxer - amydial513

Resources:
Abortion pill reversal line - 1-877-588-0333

40 days for life website to volunteer to pray and fast to end abortion near you: https://www.40daysforlife.com/en/

Chapters

• 0:16 Finding Faith Through Heart Transformation
• 11:38 Breaking Free From Legalism Through Transformation
• 24:23 Battle Against Abortion and Darkness
• 38:37 Speaking Out Against Abortion Truths
• 46:58 Resting in Submission to God
• 59:18 Warfare Against Abortion in the Spirit
• 1:07:27 Prayer for Ending Abortion Advocacy

Transcript

Speaker 1: 0:16

Welcome to the Hope Unlocked podcast. I'm your host, kristen Kurtz, and I'm also the founder of New Wings Coaching. I help and empower wildhearted and adventurous women of faith feeling caged and stuck, unlock their true purpose and potential, break free from limitations and thrive with confidence, courage and hope. If you're curious to learn more about coaching with me, head to newwingscoachingnet and be sure to explore the show notes for ways to connect with me further. Get ready to dive in as we uncover empowering keys and insights in this episode. So tune in and let's unlock hope together. Welcome to the Hope Unlocked podcast. I'm Kristen Kurtz, your host. I pray this episode is like a holy ivy of hope for your soul. Please help me welcome my sweet friend, amy Dial, to the show. I am so thrilled to have her here today. I know she has quite a testimony and so much goodness to share with you all. So would you be willing to share more about you with us?

Speaker 2: 1:10

Hi Kristen, thank you so much for having me. I'm so honored to be here and I'm just blessed to be your friend and your sister in Christ, so I thank you for inviting me here. My name is Amy Dial and I have been blessed with a ministry called Fit for the Kingdom, and what I get to do through that is to use health and fitness to share the gospel minister to women while moving their bodies. I like to say it's movement with a message, moving their bodies, I like to say it's movement with a message, and so that's that's kind of what the Lord has called me into. But through that process of birthing this ministry, he has taken me on such a deeper journey about learning to really sit still before the Lord and let him look at me.

Speaker 2: 2:06

That's something that I've always struggled with and I'll get into that in my testimony. It's a major part of my testimony. But through birthing this ministry, he called me to become a Revelation Wellness Fitness Instructor, which is a cool thing that you and I um actually share in our, in our stories, in the background of our stories. But I had no idea whenever he called me to that he was actually going to use it as a tool to get me still before him, which sounds incredible whenever it's a tool to train you how to use movement to share the gospel yeah but he actually, he actually used it as a way to get me still.

Speaker 2: 2:50

Um, I firmly believe that if he would have said, hey, I have this tool over here and through this tool, I'm going to make you sit your butt down and just let me look at you, I would have not had any part of it. But because I love health, I love fitness, I love coaching women, I love building up community, he knew that, spoke my language, which attests to the fact that he can and he will use any and all means to reach you, and it's just a beautiful thing. And I never saw it coming, but he did. He got me still and he looked at me and through looking at me, that was the beginning of breaking off so many deep, deep layers of wounds and things that I believed in error, things that I believed in. Essentially, what he did is he got me to give him my religion, which was not doing a thing for me in my heart, and he gave me a relationship, and that was the thing that I had looked for my entire life and I was missing it.

Speaker 2: 4:02

And so it really is true when the Bible talks about the story of Mary and Martha, and Martha is so upset. She's running around preparing the meal, cleaning the house, doing all of the things, and she's actually complaining Because Mary is doing nothing but sitting at Jesus' feet. And he said Mary has chosen the greater thing. And, and that's exactly where I was at, and so now he's really teaching me to be a, to be a Mary, and I'm loving it. I'm loving it.

Speaker 1: 4:38

Well, prior to you know, coming into Revelation, wellness and that's where you said you had, you know, a big shift and going from you know Martha to more of a Mary. Like what did your life look like operating like that?

Speaker 2: 4:52

Oh, my goodness, I tell you, I was raised in a very loving household. I had two amazing parents and four siblings four older siblings and our house was about love. Our house was about service. Our house was about hard work. But we were built in religion and I'm not knocking my parents by any means. I'm grateful for the fact that they taught me to respect the word of God and to honor God to respect the word of God and to honor God.

Speaker 2: 5:30

But I was born into a religious just a spirit of religion, I guess, is how I would describe it and I really thought that God was impossible to please, that he was always angry at me and I was always going to screw up the police, that he was always angry at me and I was always going to screw up and I wanted desperately to be accepted, to be loved. But I had this orphan mindset and that's not even anything that my parents taught me, but it's how I perceived things and that spirit of religion permeated my heart from a very young age and really just twisted the gospel from a very young age and really just twisted the gospel. And it's beautiful because the Lord has me writing a book about my testimony and the name of the book is Ring of Fire, and he's shown me over and over and over all these points in my life when he was always there. And that's based off of Zephaniah 2.5, where it says I'll be a ring of fire around her in the glory in her midst. He's actually talking about Jerusalem in that, but it applies to my life and I desperately wanted this connection and I would see other people that appeared to have it all together. They were doing the right things and reading their Bible. They were really going out there and getting it for the kingdom and I wanted that, but I felt like something's missing. I don't know how to do that. I had no desire to read my Bible. I wanted to have that desire, but as a teenager I just wanted to go do what I wanted to do. I always had this thought that the Lord was holding out on me. You know that question that the enemy posed to Eve in the garden was, did God really say and that's something that just played over and over and over in my mind is you know what's out there that you're really missing?

Speaker 2: 7:18

And so I spent my entire youth, my teenage years, you know, doing what I was supposed to do. And then when I got out on my own, I probably fell away a little bit, but nothing, nothing too far, you know, like maybe I stopped going to church for like three or four months. That was probably the worst of it, you know. But I was raising my own family and I raised with what I knew, which was tradition and religion, and I'm bringing these children up and I'm thinking, okay, well, one day I'm going to click. But it didn't click. And so I decided to go harder and let me make sure I'm there every Sunday morning, every Sunday night and every Wednesday, the way my parents were. Let me make sure I'm there every Sunday morning, every Sunday night and every Wednesday, the way my parents were. Let me make sure I'm doing this, this and this. Let me try to get into my Bible.

Speaker 2: 8:08

And there was just a block, no matter what the problem Kristen is that my heart was far from him. I had so much head knowledge about God and I had heart knowledge about Jesus and I had heart knowledge about Jesus, but I couldn't apply it, if that makes sense, and I believe what a lot of the block was. I didn't have a heart knowledge of God, the Father, and I accepted Jesus at the age of 11, and I desperately wanted to have this revelatory experience where you're walking with Christ daily and you feel this peace and this joy. I wanted to have the fruits of the spirit, so to speak, and I was anything but walking in the fruits of the spirit.

Speaker 2: 8:54

It was evident I could go to church and make it look good with my little Christian mask on and then go home and yell at my kids over the least little thing or, you know, argue with my husband or just worry about things that I didn't even need to worry about. I was not walking in the fruits of the spirit. There was no peace, and it's because there was a disconnect. I heard a pastor say not too long ago that the difference between heaven and hell is only 12 to 14 inches. What that mean, what he meant by that was it's the difference from your head to your heart. I had so much knowledge and understanding of what it was supposed to look like, but application in my heart was not there, and so because that wasn't there, it was very easy for the enemy to tempt me with things that I knew better. You want me to get into my testimony?

Speaker 1: 9:50

Well, I just wanted to ask, like, what I'm being prompted to ask is I love how you mentioned. You had, just you know, a very loving home. You give all honor and you know goodness, you know, to your parents. You had a great family. Um, did you sense as a child, like that? There was kind of a missing link here. Like, were your parents living? You know, like you mentioned, you know life of the fruit, you know living the fruit, the fruit to the spirit? Like, did they know, do they have joy?

Speaker 2: 10:27

I I saw my parents walking in joy. I saw them walking in peace. I saw them walking in connection. It was kind of a mixed bag. I saw my parents in the word. I saw them studying. I saw them doing the things that I desperately wanted to be doing. Um, they weren't perfect by any means, but I also saw some staunch areas of legalism. From a place of love. It was always from a place of love, but there was very legalistic mindset on things.

Speaker 2: 10:59

And when my parents got older, the Lord took them both last year within I think it was like 62 days of each other. They had been married 67 years and he took my mom first and my father. I'd never seen my father depressed. I'd never really seen him cry, um, but he went into, he was going into a full tailspin of depression. I'd never seen my father so down and I just kept praying Lord, heal his heart, heal his heart. And the Lord did that by taking him home to be with mom. I can't even be mad about that. I can't be mad about it, but it's not how I saw it happening. But in the latter probably year or two of their life, I saw them start to soften away from legalism and be more open to, I guess, what you would say more of a not quite a charismatic mindset, but they're. They seem to release some of the staunch legalistic beliefs that they had held my entire life, if that makes sense.

Speaker 1: 12:02

What do you think is the catalyst for that? My entire life, if that makes sense. What do you think is the catalyst for that?

Speaker 2: 12:07

I think a catalyst for that is well, for one thing, that's right about the time the Lord started calling me out into being more bold with my faith in in charismatic ways, and they were seeing this change in me. I think also the fact that they were nearing the end of their life and maybe I mean who knows what the Lord was doing with them personally in their conversations with him. But one thing that was a large catalyst my mom ended up getting diagnosed with dementia and my mom did not believe it at all and she knew from the get go, like there's something off here that my parents have never talked about demonic oppression, although they very much saw me walk through it during my testimony. They knew enough to call the preacher when it was happening, but it was from a legalistic religion and the preacher did not know what to do. He came over and he loved me through it the best way he could, but there was no casting out these demons. There was no talk of that. There was just we're going to pray and Lord help us. And you know you do what you can at the time with what you've got, so I'm not faulting anybody for that. But when my mom got diagnosed with dementia on her bad days.

Speaker 2: 13:25

One thing about my mother and my father both, but especially my mom she was such a prayer warrior and she was the.

Speaker 2: 13:33

She was the example of the Proverbs 31 woman and she was always in prayer and on her really bad days I'd be over there visiting with her and she was like, let's pray, let's pray.

Speaker 2: 13:43

Bad days I'd be over there visiting with her and she was like let's pray, let's pray. And the Lord just opened up conversations and I started talking to her about you know, this is the enemy, this is what he's doing. And that's whenever some things broke and she said he's trying to steal the word from my mind. And I've never heard my mom talk like that and I don't know if it was the dementia releasing her to let go of her legalism or it was the Lord opening her eyes to stuff, but she was very much open to it and I began to pray in the spirit against things and she would say it's lifting, I can see them going, and so I think the Lord was opening her eyes to things in the spirit. My dad still wasn't sure at this point point, but he wasn't saying anything, but just help your mom like he was, like I don't know if I believe this, but I'm not going to stop it.

Speaker 1: 14:32

So that's, that was a shift for my parents, you know what a blessing that they have you, one that's willing to, you know, go against the grain, as we say, right yeah, I'm blessed I got to be their daughter for 47 amazing years, so um, well, you are welcome.

Speaker 1: 14:55

I would love for you to share, you know, your testimony. Um, you know, as, as you know, this, this podcast, every episode is, is really for the one, and I really felt like your testimony needs to be heard by the one who's listening in today. So you are welcome to share what's on your heart for the one.

Speaker 2: 15:17

Okay, do you want the full testimony or the condensed version?

Speaker 1: 15:22

You have the mic, my friend.

Speaker 2: 15:24

Okay, okay, okay. Well, if at any point you need to interrupt me to ask a question or whatever, just feel free, because it's pretty when I start, I just love to tell the story of what he did for me and for Austin, and I get on fire about it so, which is a testimony to who he is, because, like I said, that would not have happened had he not set me still. So, as I was saying earlier, I was raised in religion and I was. I just kept feeling that I was missing it and I was really struggling with the fact that many of the teenagers, for example, in my group I saw what they were doing on Friday and Saturday night, because I was part of it too, and I saw how they were talking at school and I saw the things that were happening, and then on Sunday, we're all sitting on the pew. I mean, we're teenagers, right? So I'm not casting stones to anyone, because a lot of that is immaturity in Christ, right, so I'm not casting stones to anyone, because a lot of that is immaturity in Christ, but it just speaks to it. Just, it speaks to how religion doesn't help you in general, matter of fact, it hinders you, because I saw it, oh, this recurring theme over and over and over.

Speaker 2: 16:38

And that thing was hypocrisy, and I saw it in leadership. I saw it and I here's the really incredible thing the Lord started showing me it in myself, yet in my rebellion, I did not. I did not want to see it. I didn't want to see that. I was going to church pretending to have it all together, pretending that I was in right standing with the Lord, yet my heart was far from him. Because I might have cussed my kids out on the way to going into the church, like pulling in the parking lot because they were doing something crazy or just being kids, or I might have, you know, not treated someone kindly when I had the opportunity, just you name it. I was not walking out what I was saying, and that's because I had a heart issue. The Bible talks about this over and over and over. You know, as a man thinks in his heart, so is he. But I mean, I'm telling you, I wanted to look the part I wanted people to think and I, I was in such deception that I didn't even have the thought. Well, I'm going to go out here and try to deceive people and I'm going to go live how I want. I was in deception myself, and that's how the enemy works. I thought I was doing all the right things because I was showing up to the building, I was praising the Lord, I was, you know, in my Bible, not in my private time, but in church. I was really reading the word and getting the message, and so I thought I was doing the right things.

Speaker 2: 18:07

So when Satan put the ultimate bait in front of me because he's an opportunist and he saw that I was having severe cracks in the foundation of my marriage severe cracks and there were there were areas that my husband and I should have addressed and we didn't and we just kept letting things get worse and worse. And the pressure of three small children, you know finances, all the things. And constantly I'm hearing the lie of the enemy You're not appreciated, you're not loved. There's more out there. You deserve. You deserve better. That's what I kept hearing. You're such a good person, you deserve better. No, I don't. None of us deserve anything. The Bible tells us every one of us is wretched sinner. None of us deserve anything. Actually, what we deserve is hell, because we're all born into sin. But Jesus came and said that's not for you, that's not your portion. But Jesus came and said that's not for you, that's not your portion. So we have grace, and I'm not saying that to say we have a license to go out and sin. But I mean, this was a lie, that I deserve better.

Speaker 2: 19:28

And so he presented an opportunity with a coworker where some boundaries were crossed in the very beginning. And I saw this and I've always had discernment and I knew in my gut like hmm, something's not off. I think this, I think this man is trying to cross boundaries. But in my flesh I wanted that attention, I wanted that. And Satan's telling me you know, you're so under, you're so under loved, you're not getting what you deserve. No one's noticing you. You know this victim mindset which feeds back to that orphan spirit that I had had since a young age. And so then I didn't put up boundaries, I didn't speak to my husband about it, I didn't sever ties with this man. He was actually a supervisor of mine and I allowed myself to be put in situations where I was alone with him, knowing it was dangerous. I was getting all the red flags and I kept going because it felt good, because someone was acknowledging me and someone was recognizing me and someone was seeing the value in me. This is how the enemy gets you. And I started having this kind of war within my spirit because I knew it was my. It was the Holy Spirit saying like, hey, get away from the situation, it's not good.

Speaker 2: 20:45

And my father? Actually, I just loved my dad so much. He actually showed up at my house unannounced one day. We were their neighbors, we lived down the down the street from them and he showed up at my house one day and he called it out. My dad had wonderful discernment and he called it out, wonderful discernment and he called it out and he said I see that this man that you, you're working with, I see that he's not, he's up to no good is what my dad told me. And instead of what's that?

Speaker 1: 21:16

He had no idea.

Speaker 2: 21:18

No, my dad had no idea. No one had any idea. But my dad could tell something wasn't right and instead of loving my dad and saying thank you so much I have never done this before in my life I kicked my father out of my home and refused him access to his grandchildren. I can't imagine how that hurt my dad looking back. Um, actually, yes, I can. I have a daughter that at one point in her life she denied me access for about a year and a half just for no reason. Uh, the lord has reconciled our relationship and it's better than it was ever before, and so I know how much it hurt. I'm sure it hurt my dad even greater, because my daughter, that daughter, doesn't have any kids that she could use as leverage the way I did. But I'm telling you, satan was already calling the shots in my life and I wanted what I wanted.

Speaker 2: 22:11

So it wasn't long after that, I was at a training event and the man that I'm speaking of showed up unannounced and he wanted to just pop up at my hotel room. And I'm just here to encourage you. I'm I'm, you know, just really want to be there for you. Let's go out to dinner, like all the things and I'm like, oh, okay, it's still seeming innocent, but I knew in my gut, kristen, that something was off. So the night goes on and next thing you know we're sleeping together. I'm married. He's married. I'm claiming to be a Christian, he's claiming to be a Christian. We work together. He's my supervisor Just so many things.

Speaker 2: 23:01

And this started a six month secret affair, and I will tell you that it didn't take very long for me to get to a place where I hated myself so much I could not even look at myself in the mirror because I hated who I was. I hated that I was hurting people. I hated that I was lying, but more than that, I hated that I was further away from the God I had been trying to get to and I was like he's never going to forgive me. And it just got to a point where I don't even know what took over. It's just, it's like I no longer had it. It was like somebody else was in the driver's seat. Somebody else was in the driver's seat.

Speaker 2: 23:47

Now, now that I have more knowledge and understanding and the Lord's given me revelation, that was demons running my life because I opened the door, and so people that think that because we're Christians, we give our life to Christ. We cannot have demonic oppression. I will tell you, I lived it. I absolutely lived it. My spirit is safe in the Lord Jesus Christ, but my soul, which is my mind, will and emotions, and my good body, all of that can come under oppression to the enemy, and when we open doors, he will come in and he will bring all hell with him. And that's exactly what happened to me.

Speaker 2: 24:23

And so it wasn't very long in this affair, I found myself pregnant here. I was married, had three small children and he's married. He had no children, but I'm pregnant and I was like God, I don't even like, I don't even know what to do. You're not going to hear me with this I would. I would speak it out and doubt that he would even hear my prayer. But I knew Like he's the only person I knew I could talk to about it. With this, I would. I would speak it out and doubt that he would even hear my prayer. But I knew to, like he's the only person I knew I could talk to about it. But I also felt that he didn't want to hear me, if that makes sense.

Speaker 2: 25:02

And so I told the man, uh in question. I told him about it and instantly he said I'll never forget it. He said this is going to ruin our lives, and to say that about our child, this is going to ruin our lives. I'm going to tell you that child has been such a blessing to both of our lives, but he was. He was just as caught in sin and deception as I was at the time, and so I had always been the person who was super judgmental, I was legalistic, I was religious and I always, in arrogance and pride, would actually say there's no excuse for abortion. I don't care what it is, I don't care what the situation is, and I would cite different situations that I won't go into now but there's no excuse to kill a baby, and I would be so ugly to anyone who tried to even present why they might not agree fully with me. I was very religious.

Speaker 2: 26:10

Yet here I was in that woman's shoes, the very woman that I had judged. I was so much Paul. Before he became Paul, I was Saul, a very religious zealot, and then the Lord met me. I had a total road to Damascus moment. So this man tells me we don't have a choice like this is what we have to do. And I knew in my gut no, it's not. No, no, no, no, no. But I also didn't see any other option and so I was taken.

Speaker 2: 26:45

The first time I was taken over to the abortion clinic. This is how amazing god, he will not ever give up on the one. When you hear the song Corey Ashbury sings about leaving the 99 for the one and you hear people talking all the time, it says it in the Bible like I'll leave the 99 for the one. I was that one, and so when we pulled up, I had been crying the whole way over. It was a two-hour drive to Houston, to where we were going up. I had been crying the whole way over. It was a two-hour drive to Houston, to where we were going. I'd been crying the whole way over.

Speaker 2: 27:20

I got out and there was a man in the parking lot, a homeless man parking lot across the street and he looked at me. He was holding a cardboard sign. He had all of his belongings and he was holding a sign that said God loves you and your baby. He wasn't protesting the abortion clinic. He was just across the street with his little shopping cart and a cardboard sign. Instead of saying give me money or whatever they say, his son was advocating for life. And I knew that. I knew that. I knew I was looking at an angel and my mom's voice popped into my mind where she said Amy, be careful how you treat people, because you never know when you entertain angels. You know that scripture, yes, and so I knew it was an angel, but it didn't stop me. It just made me cry even more because I knew like God is trying to save me and I cannot. He loves me, but I can't let him look at me so to speak.

Speaker 2: 28:10

So by the time I got into the clinic, I crying so hard that I was I was about to get physically ill, I was, I was dry, heaving, I was. I couldn't catch my breath and the woman at the counter she called, she called me and and the father of my child up and she was like what's going on? And he goes oh, she's fine, she's just's fine. She looked at me and she said do you want to?

Speaker 1: 28:33

be here and I couldn't answer her.

Speaker 2: 28:36

I couldn't answer her. She told him. She said listen, she said I'm going to get in trouble because in the state of Texas you can't force somebody to have an abortion. So you're going to have to get her under control or you're going to have to get her out of here. She's upsetting the other women and I was. I was so grateful. I mean she wasn't kind at all about it and, looking back on, she wasn't concerned about my safety and well-being. She was concerned about number one, getting in trouble if someone saw them forcing me to have an abortion. And number two, she was concerned about me running off business, because it all comes down to money with the abortion industry. And so I got.

Speaker 2: 29:15

I got asked to leave, I left and over the course of the next couple of weeks the enemy went on an all. He went all in on an assault on my mind just rip away any shred of any, um anything I had in me to hold on to like I'm not doing this. He just he went. He went all in, and it was about. Two or three weeks went by and I had gotten to a point where I had allowed him to convince me that this was the only option, and that when I came home, I was going to hang myself. So not only were we going to abort the child, I was now going to commit suicide by and I'm going to and I actually speak to this in the book that he has me writing I chose a very intimate way to kill myself because I wanted to make sure that I evoked the greatest amount of pain. When I descended into hell, I kept hearing your baby's going to heaven today and you're going to hell, where you belong. I heard that over and over and over, like a loop in my mind. That is not the voice of God, that is the voice of the enemy. But it had me. I was so convinced that this is, this is where it's going to end, and so I went back over, and this time I made it all the way, all the way through the processes and got to the back in the room and I said I did not understand spiritual warfare. But now the Lord has taught me so many things about that and he's taken me back to that day so many times and shown me in the spirit the things I was looking at, the things I was seeing.

Speaker 2: 31:00

I kept feeling like no one saw me. I wasn't a person. No one would look at me. I'm laying on the bed and they're preparing things and they're talking to the father of my child. They're telling him what's going to happen. No one would look at me.

Speaker 2: 31:17

I was the patient and my son was the specimen. That was it. It was not mother and child, it was nothing. It was very dehumanizing and I just kept feeling like somebody look at me. Somebody look at me and tears would just stream down my face and nobody would give me a glance and I couldn't understand. I was like nobody cares and I would feel like there was a kind of like a backhoe scooping out my chest. Well, that was the enemy taking more and more of my heart and I could feel that the energy in the room shift to this. It was almost like this evil excitement, anticipation, I guess, is how I would describe it. The doctor came in and he spoke to. He spoke to the father of my child and explained the process. He was very technical, he was very methodical. There was no concern, no emotion in it and it just it felt very dark and as I was laying there, darkness as you're talking what's that?

Speaker 1: 32:28

so much darkness as you're talking.

Speaker 2: 32:31

Yeah, it's just incredible. And so I remember thinking nobody cares. I wish somebody would just look at me and in an instant I had never had a personal encounter with Jesus Christ, aside from when I gave my life to him, when I was prompted by the Holy Spirit. But I had never had a visitation in my life that I know of. Jesus showed up and he was on my right side and he just whispered in my ear remember who you are. And as soon as he whispered that this holy, this holy fight came over me and something rose up in me where, I'm telling you, I could have been Samson and pushed down the pillars. In that moment I felt so strong, I felt fierce fire and this protection rise up in me and I came up swinging. I was like it's not, no, not today. I'm keeping my child, like, get your hands off of me. I went, I went, pretty much went nuts in there. I'm keeping my child like, get your hands off of me. I went, I went, pretty much went nuts in there, which was a surprise to everyone, because I had just been laying there silently crying and all of a sudden the Lord just flipped the script and it was.

Speaker 2: 33:43

It was not happening that day and there, of course, you know I like to proudly say I've been kicked out of an abortion clinic twice, so that was the second time that I was quickly told to leave because they don't like anything that's going to interfere with business. And I got dressed and I was walking down the hallway and I felt very much like Lion of Judah was there in that moment. But as I'm walking down the hallway I felt the Lamb of God when he said stop and look back. And this is when I talk about that, that Saul to Paul conversion on the road to Damascus. This was my Damascus moment, where the scales fell off. I looked over my left shoulder and there was a recovery room where a number of women were sitting in these post-recovery like medical recliners, kind of like you give blood in and I saw them sitting there. Not one pair of eyes had life in it, not one.

Speaker 2: 34:49

Now, what these women did when they got outside of that abortion clinic, I don't know. I don't know their story that got them there. I don't even know if they were believers in Christ. I don't know anything about them. But the one thing I do know is there was death in every pair of eyes I saw, and in that moment, not one single woman appeared to be happy with her choice, appeared to be happy with her choice. So what the pro-choice agenda is telling us is a complete lie. It is not an easy decision. And these people that claim oh I'm so proud, I had an abortion and it's the best thing I did, it's all lies, because in that moment, not one woman was happy with what she did and my heart broke for those women and I just thought God, I was her. I was her, but you showed up. What I did not understand is the reason he showed me that.

Speaker 2: 35:46

I thought for many, many years it was a condemnation of look where you were, look how close you were to death. Because, I'm telling you, I was going to go home and hang myself in my husband's shop. I didn't think about the fact that my husband would have found me. My kids might have seen me when they were just in grade school. At the time I had one that was still a toddler, but my oldest daughter could have found me when she got off the bus. My parents who lived up the road could have found me. That was not entering my mind. None of them knew I was having an affair. None of them knew I was pregnant and none of them knew I was in an abortion clinic. But what a way for them to find out with no reasoning behind it.

Speaker 1: 36:32

With no reasoning behind it.

Speaker 2: 36:34

No, no reasoning behind it. I wasn't thinking about anything, but this is what I deserve. And so the years that followed that I didn't run out of that abortion clinic telling everybody about it. I was silent for many, many, many years and I went through just pure hell for many years. My husband and I actually obviously ended up getting divorced and it came out that I was pregnant by another man. But the hell that I walked through was because of what I felt in my heart for myself and I allowed, allowed things in my life that shouldn't allow people to treat me certain ways, especially men that I dated over the years, because I thought that's what I deserved. I was constantly expecting the Lord to pay me back, because I felt like I deserved to pay back, and I thought he showed me those women to like rub my nose in it of look where you almost were. Thank god, I showed up, kind of thing. But that's not how god is. And so I began. I began the task of trying to work to show god why he made a good choice on saving me and saving my son.

Speaker 2: 37:51

And the day that I got home from the abortion clinic with my son, I sat in the driveway of my house, in my car, and I remember crying, and this was the second time I had a real encounter with Christ. I said, god, I know you're real, you don't have to love me. I've really screwed up, you know. I said, but I can't kill my kids like, I can't do this, it's not right.

Speaker 2: 38:16

And I heard the voice of God say Amy, have this baby and it's all going to work out. He did not say it's going to be easy and it was not easy. He just said have this baby and it's going to work out. And so I did and it did work out. It was a wild ride, but the Lord has redeemed so many things. My ex-husband is an incredible man. He is now married to a wonderful woman of God and they have two children of their own. They have twin girls and my current husband that I have. The Lord brought him into my life 10 years ago and he has his own crazy story and he was a single dad.

Speaker 1: 39:01

We all do, don't we?

Speaker 2: 39:02

Yes, we all do. He's a single dad raising two kids, and so I have I have two bonus kids as a result. So the Lord has just really blessed me. But it wasn't until I got still. Oh, and the biggest blessing is my son that was saved that day. He, I'm telling you, he has a double anointing of Peter to preach the gospel. He is now in the US Army. Right now he's in boot camp training, training in the Army for airborne infantry. So the lord is doing amazing things with his life. But it wasn't until the lord got me still and he started showing me like no, you're not, you're not. All these things you say about yourself worthless, horrible, abandon your post as a mother, all all of these things. He calls me priceless. And in that moment, when I saw how he truly sees me, when I prayed that about the righteousness of Christ, he really does see us as a righteousness of Christ, I had repented of my sin over and over and over and over and over throughout the years and I kept trying to outwork it.

Speaker 2: 40:14

The Lord forgave me, but I couldn't forgive myself. And when he started calling me priceless and rebuilding my understanding of who he calls me to be and I'm called to minister to those women, he said Amy, you're going to be the last line of defense, but you're also going to be the first sign of hope. So it's my prayer and it's my hope, and I will do everything within my power to convince you not to go in, because I don't want you to encounter what I encountered inside. I don't want you to have to walk into the enemy's camp and to not be able to walk out unaffected. I don't want that for you. I want your baby to come to the earth the way the Lord has planned and I want you to be able to be a mother according to the plan of the Lord, because nothing is a surprise to the Lord.

Speaker 2: 41:13

There are no crisis pregnancies to God, regardless of the situation. But if you do find yourself going in there, you need to be able to meet Jesus when you come out, because he still loves you. He loves you going in, he loves you coming out, he loves you going in, he loves you coming out and I think that's where we miss it a lot of times is we judge and we condemn because we fight for life. Right, so we should fight for life. God cares about life. He created life, but we should also care for the life of the mother and the father.

Speaker 1: 41:56

We're seeing more dads having the courage to stand up and say abortion. Abortion has affected me too, because it's not just the moms, so I want to just touch on you. Know you were able to walk away. Now we know that there are some who potentially might be listening, who didn't. They had a different path. Would you be open to speaking to them a little bit as well?

Speaker 2: 42:19

Yes, absolutely. That's a tender place in my heart because I saw what the enemy did in my life personally just from walking in there, just from so. When I, we, we look at the scripture where it says as a man thinks in his heart, so is he. Whenever I entertained the thought of abortion and I agreed in my heart to go through with it because I believed the lie, that I had no other option that spirit of murder entered me and that's something that I had to get delivered from over the years and I'm grateful that the Lord has delivered me from that.

Speaker 2: 43:04

But for those that have gone in, please don't think that you're ever going to come out and not be affected and you, you can busy yourself with all the things, you can chase all the things. There's many people that you know. We all find our ways to cope, whether it's going on and burying yourself in a career, maybe, or turning to things that are not good for us, like alcoholism, drugs. Some people actually repeat their abortions over and over and over as a subconscious way to kind of undo the guilt they feel. Well, they end up doing is compounding it right, and this is this is why I have an issue with people who say I don't have an issue with the people, I have an issue with what the people say.

Speaker 2: 43:51

When the ones who say, the Christians that say well, I don't agree with abortion, except for in the case of rape, I'm here to tell you I have some people that are very close to me that have been affected by rape. By the grace of God, they were not impregnated, but had they been pregnant from that horrible situation, aborting that child would not have undone the rape. You're just compounding the trauma, and so I think we, as the body of Christ, need to be very careful in what we say, we accept and what we say we don't, out of fear of being insensitive. No one wants to look at the rape victim, and I don't even know why the Lord's got me going off on this, but I hope it's okay.

Speaker 1: 44:33

Absolutely. Somebody needs to hear this.

Speaker 2: 44:35

Somebody does need to hear it. None of us would willingly look at a rape victim and say, well, I don't care that you were raped, you don't have a right to feel like you don't connect to that child. No, that would be a horrible thing. It would be difficult to connect with that child because it would be a memory. I promise you there's someone in the earth that wants that baby and I think, as christian, as the body of christ, we're afraid to to stand up and say, regardless of how this child comes to be, it's still not the father's will for them to become aborted. So we really have to question our motives behind why we might make that the yeah, but exception, because I hear that a lot from the body of christ.

Speaker 2: 45:19

Oh, I don't believe in abortion except or yeah. But what's our motive behind that? Does the bible? Does the bible make any? I've looked for it. I can't find anywhere in the bible where there's an exception for abortion. It tells them very specifically don't pass your children through the fire. That's abortion. That's the God, moloch, and that's the God behind abortion. Right Abortion. There's no new thing in the earth. Abortion is not something new that we're just seeing. That came out with um the prevalence of margaret sanger, which is an entirely different conversation. She are right.

Speaker 1: 45:59

Well, that's a trail like that's, that's definitely a which I would like encourage you listeners to go look into her right. Would you encourage the listeners to go?

Speaker 2: 46:12

absolutely and put on, put on your seat belt and look at, buckle up and look at her through an objective lens and ask if you're a believer, ask the holy spirit to reveal to you what the agenda, what the spirit was behind, why she created Planned Parenthood and what spirit is driving that, because it's not women's health care no, not at all, not even one iota and if you're a specific race of people, you might want to look at it even closer.

Speaker 2: 46:47

Unfortunately, it um, it was. Systemic racism is how it was how it began planned. It was planned yeah, planned. Systemic racism is how it was how it began. It was planned yeah, planned. Systemic racism I was actually. I was actually going through the civil rights museum last month with my daughter. She used to work there and we were going through and I looked at her at one point and I said these are horrible, horrible things that have happened to black people in history. Where's the? Uh? I said, but madison, where is the segmental margaret sanger? She had no idea what I was talking about she's not very um publicly no talked about no, and my daughter?

Speaker 2: 47:27

my daughter had worked at the civil rights museum and she had no idea, and so yeah so this is just a little segue for you to go do your own research.

Speaker 1: 47:37

I'll never forget when I started researching her and I was just blown away because it blows the cover on, um well, how they are really covering up the, the, the root of this it's.

Speaker 2: 47:54

It's like pulling the hood off of the Klansman and realizing it's the town preacher yeah, that's an interesting way to look at it.

Speaker 2: 48:04

For sure, yeah so back to what I was saying to the woman that maybe didn't have the same outcome as myself God does not put degrees on sin. That's man Is murder a sin. Absolutely Is abortion murder. Absolutely, because the definition of murder is to cease one's life. So by definition, abortion is murder. But the Lord doesn't say the person who murders is held to a higher standard than the person who lies. And again, as a man thinks in his heart, so is he. So if I think hateful things in my heart about my brother or sister and I say I wish that person would just die, like I mean we've all said dumb things like that, not thinking I've just murdered someone in the spirit with my words, we've got to really be careful and think about what's the heart behind this. And so the Lord sees the liar as he sees the murder. My point in saying this is all men have sinned and fallen short of the mark, every single one of us. So someone who has an abortion is not less worthy of God's love than someone who maybe cheats on their taxes. That's man's view. That's not God's view. God's view is that none of his kids should perish and he doesn't want for any of us to be separated from his heart. Jesus came to restore the fellowship that Adam and Eve had in the garden with God in the beginning, and so he came as a sacrificial lamb to restore that connection to the Father. So my prayer to the woman who has experienced this or the man who has experienced this God loves you just as much as he loves that baby. God can forgive you and God wants to free you from the guilt, the shame, the condemnation.

Speaker 2: 50:09

If you're feeling what I did years years, my son was 15 or 16 years old before I got still and it affected my parenting. It affected how I parented him. I loved him I do love him incredibly but I loved him so much, raising him, and I was so fearful because I felt I parented. I parented from fear, if that makes sense. I was always fearful of something happening to him and I I controlled I try to control every aspect of his life and by the grace of God, we have a phenomenal relationship and, by the grace of God, whenever I came to him and and apologized to him for this, he received it well and he never held any um. To my knowledge, he never held any unforgiveness towards me or his dad. He has somewhat of a relationship with his dad today and I just it's not your.

Speaker 2: 51:11

If you're hearing condemnation and shame and guilt, the way I was, that is not God. That's the enemy. Now God will convict you. He will convict you of your sin because he loves you enough. But he's not going to say I hate you, you're a horrible person. Because that's not God. God loves you just as much as he loves that baby and he wants to restore fellowship with you.

Speaker 2: 51:35

But you've got to be willing to give it to him. You've got to be willing to sit down in front of him and say Jesus, help me, take this from me. I repent and I'm asking you to come in and love on me. I'm asking you to take this pain, take this sin that I have done and wash it. If I'm a believer in Christ, it is under the blood and I repent of it and it's washed. That's it. If I don't know Christ.

Speaker 2: 52:06

To those that don't know God, recognize that we have all sinned and fallen short of the glory of god. Recognize that none of us can work our way to heaven. We're not going to get to heaven because we're good people. Or we helped our neighbor, or we did this, or we kept the law. Jesus is the only way. He's the narrow gate. So if you haven't walked through that gate, I would pray right now. You don't let another moment pass before you submit and say God, I am a sinner, I'm a wretched sinner, forgive me. I want Jesus to come and live in my heart and I want him to be the Lord of my life. I can't, it's not doing, it's not working my way. I make a mess of it. I can't fix it and accept him freely. Accept the love and you're covered, because I'm going to tell you Jesus loves you, right where you are, but he's not going to leave you where you're at.

Speaker 1: 53:06

He'll meet you where you are, but he's not going to leave you there amy, I, I really sense that there is somebody who wants to even hear what it looked like for you on a deeper level, even these last few years, um, pressing in what. What does it look like for you to tangibly be still? Because people are like, well, I don't, I'm not just gonna sit on the couch all day. That's the thing I've heard from people before, like learning how to rest, like how do you rest? Oh, it's just, you know, people think it's just sleeping. I would love for you to share a little bit more on. You know, what does it look like for you to be still in?

Speaker 2: 53:52

your life in your life, new chapter of your life? Yes, that is a very deep question, as I'm still learning that. I feel like every day he gives me more revelation on that, and there's practical ways you can do that. There's all sorts of ways you can do that, but I think the main thing that he wants you to know is when he says rest at my feet. It's the mission. And some days that might look like Kristen and I talk about this a lot hammock time. That might look like you soaking in a hammock and saying just being out in nature. Or that might look like you laying there listening to worship music. Or that might look like you having an ongoing conversation with him throughout the day. Or that might look like while you're at your job and you're busy on the outside doing the things that you're called to do, you're in constant communion with the Father, saying God, reveal to me in my heart the areas that need to be submitted. I love you, I honor you At this job as if I'm serving you. I don't think I don't.

Speaker 2: 55:06

When we say rest, I don't think that's necessarily an action verb. I think rest is a heart posture and it all boils down to this Am I willing to turn the reins of my life over to someone else? Am I willing to get out of the driver's seat and let Jesus drive? Whatever that looks like, however that looks like, and being attuned to the Holy Spirit, because there's days the Spirit's going to tell you, kristen, you need to run and you need to run hard. And there's days the Spirit's going to say, kristen, you need to rest. All of that he's going to say, kristen, take it out, kristen, write a letter to your neighbor. Kristen. All of that is being a Mary, because what did Mary do? She submitted. She was in a heart posture of submitting to the lord. That's what he means when he says rest.

Speaker 1: 56:00

It's not about, um, your action, it's about your heart yeah, and there's like a at least the word for me in in my learning how to be still. You know, starting back in 2017, was it? You just start to become unfrazzled when she says world like world is constantly pushing against being still, wouldn't you say?

Speaker 2: 56:27

yes, I would definitely say the world wants us to, um, feel like we have it all together. We're in control. Spoiler alert. None of us have it together. None of us are in control. Spoiler alert. None of us have it together. None of us are in control, which is why we need a savior, and so the word that keeps coming up is release. Just give it to him. Don't pick it back up. Just give it to him.

Speaker 2: 56:45

Whether you're worrying about that spouse that you feel might be stepping out on you, or you're worried about how you're going to meet the bills, or you're worried about that child that's running from God, or you're worried about how you're going to meet the bills, or you're worried about that child that's running from God, or you're worried about which college to pick, whatever it is. Are you worried about that latest diagnosis? Or, in this case, of what we're talking about, you're worried about the guilt and shame because you've been touched in some way by abortion. Release, he says. Release, he says will you give that thing to me?

Speaker 2: 57:16

So rest in him is, I can rest because he's willing to take it, and I just get into a place of posturing myself in thankfulness and worshiping. We're always worshiping something which kingdom Kingdom of light, kingdom of darkness we were created to worship by our actions, how we interact in the world around us. So if I'm worshiping the kingdom of light, I'm going to release and let God do what God's going to do. If I'm worshiping myself, which is the kingdom of darkness, because we are all born into sin, I'm going to try to control it and I'm going to worry about the outcome and I'm going to think I'm going to walk in prideful arrogance when things go the right way, because I'm going to think that I'm the one who did it. I fixed my problem, that's. That's not true. Just release.

Speaker 1: 58:13

It reminds me of I think I've shared with you before, like there's this word that he gave me several years ago, like pull back to release.

Speaker 2: 58:21

Yes.

Speaker 1: 58:22

That you know bow and arrow, like you actually have to pull back to release the arrow right, but there's this intentionality of pulling back, pulling away, pulling away Like Jesus pulled away from the crowd all of the time. Right, he did, so we, I believe we have permission to do the same we do. We have permission to turn down the noise absolutely, and it's pretty noisy out there these days yes, and it's going to get noisier as the days go along I know like you have a very powerful voice and I love how he is calling you to.

Speaker 1: 59:03

You know it's, it's beyond your, your hometown, right? So let's continue to um. You know you are you're definitely um at the front lines right in this spiritual battle. And what does that look like for you? You know, going into this next year. What has he shown you? How it's going to look? Have you seen?

Speaker 2: 59:26

Oh, so a few years ago, when he first started breaking this thing off of me, he showed me a vision. Do I have permission to share it here?

Speaker 1: 59:38

You got the mic girl.

Speaker 2: 59:40

Okay, okay. So he showed me a vision and in this vision I was standing with an ax in my hand and I was blocking the door of every Planned Parenthood across the nation at the same time. And I knew it wasn't a literal. It wasn't a literal picture, it was something in the spirit he was showing me and I didn't understand. I was like Lord, I don't understand what that means and I still don't have full revelation of how that's going to come to pass. But I see him calling me to do different things and what it all boils down to is expose the enemy, shine the light in the darkness, because's just like if you go into a room filled with roaches and the lights out, you're not going to know there's roaches in there. You flip the light on, what happens? They scatter right darkness. Darkness dissipates in the light, the light overtakes the darkness, and so he's calling me to expose the enemy, expose what I saw in the camp, expose what he's teaching me about the spirits behind abortion, because we can call it a personal issue all day.

Speaker 2: 1:00:50

We can call it a political issue all day. We can call it women's rights, which is absolutely a lie. It is not women's rights. We can call it health care, which is not true. Call it women's rights, which is absolutely a lie. It is not women's rights. We can call it health care, which is not true. It's death care. We can call it all of these labels, but let's just be real here. Let's get to the root of it.

Speaker 2: 1:01:07

It is a spiritual matter. The heart of it is spiritual and if we are going after these other things, I'm not saying that we shouldn't address it in politics and all the different areas. That's not what I'm saying. But if we think we're going to solve it by addressing it in those manners, we're wrong. Those are symptoms. What's the root cause? The root cause is the spirit. How do we address things in the spirit? We fight in the spirit.

Speaker 2: 1:01:36

So what does that look like? That looks like prayer. That looks like strategic warfare prayer. That looks like fasting. That looks like being led to the spirit to minister to those that he's calling us to, to minister to, to reveal the truth. That looks like speaking on this podcast. That looks like any tool, any way he uses it to expose the enemy. That's what we're doing and that's what he's calling me into.

Speaker 2: 1:02:05

He just keeps putting me more and more opportunities to speak and minister to people and, like I said, with my ministry I get to minister to women. I don't minister specifically just to women affected by abortion, I minister to any woman that the Lord sends across my path. But we know the old statistics from a few years ago said that one in four women have had an abortion. But I can promise you that now it's even higher with the release of the chemical abortion pill, because now it's become what you would label it as as a DIY abortion, as horrible as that sounds to say. But now you don't have to go to an abortion clinic like I did. You don't have to have a team of nurses, you don't have to have a receptionist, you don't have to have a doctor, you don't have to have the suction equipment, you don't have to have a receptionist, you don't have to have a doctor, you don't have to have the suction equipment, you don't have to have all the things. You just need a place to take a two-part pill. And there you go. Your own bathroom can become the abortion clinic.

Speaker 2: 1:03:08

What do you think happens to the woman when she's got to revisit that clinic over and over and over to maybe go take a shower, brush her teeth. Do you think that she's going to be able? Because I'm going to tell you right now, this day, as far as the Lord has taken me in healing, I would not be able to walk back into that clinic again and not have some very severe trauma from it. So the fact that we now are giving women access to do this in their own homes, or the girl that's away at college to do it in her own college dorm, where her parents may not even know, do you think that that girl is going to be able to walk into that bathroom unaffected? No, absolutely not. It's, it's, it's diabolical.

Speaker 2: 1:03:52

And so we are called to expose this and to reveal the truth about it and to meet women and say, please, please, please, don't do this. Let me show you what's going to happen. But if she does, we cannot leave her there, and that is what he keeps telling me rattle the church away. Body of christ. There are some within the body that are willing to talk about this and I'm so thankful for you, a fellow sister in Christ, that's willing to give a platform and a space. That takes courage, because many in the body have said to me we don't talk about that here, we don't bring that subject up why We'll minister to the man who beats his wife or the alcoholic and tell him Jesus loves you. Why won't we do that to the woman affected by abortion?

Speaker 1: 1:04:38

You don't know her story.

Speaker 2: 1:04:40

You don't know what led up to her being in that clinic. You don't know if she willingly walked in or she was drugged in. You don't know her story and you're not God, so you don't have a right. When I say you, I'm talking to all of us. We don't have a right to judge her heart behind it. We love her, we love her and we say please, don't do this. Please, we love you, we love your baby. But if he does, we still say we love you, please don't walk in guilt and shame and condemnation.

Speaker 2: 1:05:11

Let me tell you about a man that can heal. Let me tell you about a man that can heal, and so I believe that's why he gave me that vision. Now, what it's going to look like, I don't know. I think it's an ongoing assignment. One thing is the book. I'd mentioned it earlier. He has me writing a book about it and I hope and pray and believe it'll come out in 2025. It's my goal to have it out in March of 2025, but we'll see. And then I don't know. I don't know what else he's going to do, but if there is even one woman out there that that any of my story has resonated with you and you need to connect with somebody that'll just love on you and help you through it and get you connected to the real resources that that can help you heal this thing and also walk, walk with you through deliverance. That's another part of it is the deliverance from it. I have many, many resources.

Speaker 1: 1:06:12

So, yeah, just saying yes every day I will have all of her contact information in the show notes as well. So, and if you want to just even speak out um, where can they find you?

Speaker 2: 1:06:28

so you can connect with me on facebook. Um amy dial and my, I have a new, I don't know the address, it's a book me. So that's that's mine for my Fit for the Kingdom ministry. Probably the best way to reach me is through Facebook or email and Kristen can share my website. What's up?

Speaker 1: 1:06:53

You want to speak out your email?

Speaker 2: 1:06:55

oh yeah, so my email is you can send it to the ministry email, which is fit. F I t the number four, the kingdom outreach at gmailcom.

Speaker 1: 1:07:08

so fit for the kingdom outreach at gmailcom well, I hope to have you back on again, because I know that there's definitely more, especially when your book comes out and, yes, it will be birthed this next year. Absolutely, thank you. Thank you for sharing your heart. One thing that, um, I always end the podcast with is to have the guests. Um, just really get in mind that, um, you, you know, I'm believing that it's a woman that's listening in today, that's hearing your voice. Is there anything else you'd want to speak over her today? Would you be open to praying over her today?

Speaker 2: 1:07:46

Yes, I would. And also, before I go, I also want to mention 40 Days for Life. It's an organization that I'm connected with and it is 40 days of praying and fasting to end abortion. I'm the community leader for our town, for jasper. If you feel the call in any way to get involved, there's many, many pro-life ministries. I highly recommend taking a closer look at 40 days for life and, if there's one in your community, sign up for an hour, sign up for a day. Whatever it is, it's 40 days of peaceful praying and fasting to see an end of abortion, to abortion in our nation. It's actually spread internationally and so, yeah, if it, if it speaks to you, definitely check them out.

Speaker 1: 1:08:36

And I'll I'll put a link in the show notes as well, so you can go check it out.

Speaker 2: 1:08:41

OK, ok, yeah, so, lord, I just thank you so much for this time, god, I thank you for opening this space. I thank you for this conversation, father, I thank you that your heart is intentional to each one of your kids and Papa. For the one that's listening, where she feels that she is a wasted cause, god, would you just minister her right now and let her know that nothing is wasted. Romans 8.28 tells us that all things work out to good for those that love the Lord and are called according to his, called according to your purpose. And so, god, I just proclaim right now over her that she is called according to your purpose, god.

Speaker 2: 1:09:24

Whatever has happened up to this point, whatever situation she's found herself in, god does not define her. You knit us together inside our mama's womb. You tell us that in Psalm 139. You knit us together, god, and you call us like Kristen and I talk about all the time. You call us for such a time as this, god. May your daughters and your sons and anyone who's falling under the sound of my voice, may they know that they are not a wasted space. They are called and created for such a time as this and you have a plan. You tell us in Jeremiah that you have a plan and you know the plan and it is good. It is good, it is good, and the enemy comes and he tries to destroy and he tries to deter and he tries to deflect. But, in the name of Jesus, if that one is still hearing the sound of my voice right now, that means that the enemy has not had the final say in their life, because nothing, nothing is too far for your reach, god. So I pray that you would just reach down and touch or send the Holy Spirit, the comforter, the guide, the teacher, whether it's a son or a daughter, whatever it is, or whether it's a child who now has grown into an adult and learned that my mom wanted to abort me. God, would you minister to that person that might be feeling like an orphan from what happened? God, you make all things new and I thank you and I just ask you to pour your spirit out over them right now, in the name of Jesus. Just meet them and touch them and heal them right now, in the name of Jesus, and I bind the lies of the enemy. I bind the lies of the enemy, god, and your blood speaks a better word, you tell us in Revelation 12, 11 that we overcome by the blood of the lamb and the power of our testimony and we love our life not unto death. And so, papa, I pray that this day, as Kristen and I have had this conversation, that we are overcoming the enemy. We know, we know. We know that we are overcoming the enemy on this podcast right now, because we are covered in the blood and we get to share this testimony and we don't love our lives unto death, where we are afraid to speak what you've told us.

Speaker 2: 1:11:38

God, I can't keep quiet about what you did, even if I wanted to. I am so grateful for how you saved me and how you saved Austin. And, god, I'm grateful for those that are going to hear this and you're going to use this as a ministry opportunity to convince her not to make this decision to choosing death. That she will choose life this day because of what you're ministering to her. And, god, I thank you for the ones that maybe didn't choose what was your will, that you're still gonna meet her and love on her or him and love on him.

Speaker 2: 1:12:11

God, I pray that you'll give a very real revelation to everyone who hears this of what your heart is on the matter, god.

Speaker 2: 1:12:18

One day you got me sealed and I asked for you to show me your heart in the matter of abortion and you gave me a speck of sand size glimpse of your heart and, god, it was almost too much to bear. So I know this is a matter that is very real to you and very much grieves your heart, and so, god, I pray for the day that we will see restoration within the earth between you and your kids, and the topic of abortion will be be just a history lesson when we talk about, like learning about the Holocaust and the things that were so horrendous in the past, god, but it's not something that we still experience and I pray that over our earth, god, that it'll be the same with abortion. God, use us in mighty and powerful ways. Rise up your warriors to this. Call God to sever the head of the serpent of abortion. To sever the head of the serpent of abortion In the name of Jesus, amen, amen.

Speaker 1: 1:13:20

Amy, you are a warrior. Thank you for being a brave voice. Who's setting others free?

Speaker 2: 1:13:30

Yes, thank you so much for having me and for being willing, kristen, it's such an honor.

Speaker 1: 1:13:33

I'm honored to have you on, so thank you again for using your voice in such a powerful way to combat this evil.

Speaker 2: 1:13:44

Yeah.

Speaker 1: 1:13:45

Thank you All that to say. Like I said, we will have all of the contact information for Amy in the show notes. Please reach out to her. If you want to share anything with her, testify. I know that she is open to hearing from you. So, yes, I will be back with another episode next week and thank you again, Amy, for being on.

Speaker 2: 1:14:06

Thank you so much. It was my honor. Thank you, girl, I love you.