Unlocking the Power of Dreams: Unveiling Prophetic Insights to Propel Your Path with Analiese Shepherd

In this episode, Kristin Kurtz sits down with Analiese Shepherd, a prophetic dreamer, mentor, and business owner, to dive deep into the world of dream interpretation and spiritual growth. Analiese shares her journey of unlocking the power of dreams, walking through prophetic encounters, and discovering God's call on her life. From understanding the role of prophetic dreams in our lives to practical tips on how to interpret and steward them, Analiese offers profound insights for anyone looking to grow spiritually and unlock their own dreams.

Tune in as we explore how dreams can be blueprints for our purpose and how God uses these experiences to guide us. Whether you're a seasoned dreamer or new to the concept, this conversation will encourage you to pay attention to the dreams you’re receiving and unlock the secrets they hold.

Analiese's Contact Info:
Website - www.dreamslivinginmotion.com
Facebook page - Dreams in Motion  

Chapters

• 0:16 Empowering Women Through Faith and Purpose
• 9:02 Dreams and Prophetic Spiritual Awakening
• 22:51 Unlocking Dreams Through Spiritual Understanding
• 31:06 Exploring the World of Dreams
• 35:41 Navigating Dream Interpretation and Spiritual Warfare
• 48:00 Unlocking Dreams for Global Impact
• 53:44 Dream Interpretation and Collaboration
• 1:04:27 Embracing Empowerment and Encouragement
• 1:10:00 Dream Workshops and Empowerment Prayer

Transcript

Speaker 1: 0:16

Welcome to the Hope Unlocked podcast. I'm your host, kristen Kurtz, and I'm also the founder of New Wings Coaching. I help and empower wildhearted and adventurous women of faith feeling caged and stuck, unlock their true purpose and potential, break free from limitations and thrive with confidence, courage and hope. If you're curious to learn more about coaching with me, head to newwingscoachingnet and be sure to explore the show notes for ways to connect with me further. Get ready to dive in as we uncover empowering keys and insights in this episode. So tune in and let's unlock hope together. Welcome to the Hope Unlocked podcast. I'm Kristen Kurtz, your host. I pray this episode is like a holy IV of hope for your soul. Please help me. Welcome Annalisa Shepard to the show. I am just incredibly excited to have her here today. We actually have been connected on Facebook for a while, but we had some conversations recently and I knew I wanted her to share her story and what she's doing with the Lord in her life on Hope Unlocked today. So, annalisa, would you be open to sharing a little bit more about?

Speaker 2: 1:19

yourself? Hello, absolutely, I would love to. Michelle. Hello, absolutely, I would love to. So I am a mom of three. I'm a business owner and hairdresser here locally in Colorado Springs. Um I, what is it that you want to hear?

Speaker 1: 1:36

Yeah, just what. What comes to mind when somebody says you know who are you Like. What is the Lord called you to be? First of all, because we want to focus on the before, the do right, who are you?

Speaker 2: 1:49

Absolutely Well. I am passionate about helping young people. I feel I'm called to be a Deborah and a John the Baptist with an Elijah anointing, which means there is a lot to unpack with that. I've been a dreamer since I was born. I can't remember a time that I wasn't a dreamer and then when I was about 13, I know that shifted for me and I started seeing in the spirit. I would wake up at night and see things that no one else could see, and I remember I shut that off for a while because it freaked my mom out and she didn't understand it or how to help me.

Speaker 2: 2:28

And as I grew, as I grew up and ran, the Lord really put a passion and a calling on my life for the nations, specifically Europe. And so over the course of my life and having kids and becoming a mom, I knew that there was more to my life and I just didn't know how to unlock it. And so about I would say probably about five or six years ago, the Lord was like if you want to do something for people, then first you must heal, and I didn't really know what that meant. Hmm, yeah, and I didn't really know what that meant. But being a hairdresser, started unlocking my anointing, I would say, and the realization I had a lot more to my story, or a lot more in my closet, pain-wise, than I realized. So I started just diving into books anything I could get my hands on. I started reading a book called Adult Children of Emotionally Immature Parents and that, I would say, would be the first peel of my onion of realizing whoa, people are unhealthy and they're going to do the best that they can, but that also means some of their unhealth is going to impact my capacity to be healthy and I was reacting as an adult human, like an eight or 10 year old child, from my trauma. That led me to another book of stewarding the heart that the Lord gave you, and in that it is a Christian counselor who basically said we can't cancel from a worldly schooling and slap Christianese on it.

Speaker 2: 4:11

I always like to say, right now the church is acting like a generic burrito, following the world's rules, and then slapping some church salsa on it saying, okay, we agree with this for physical touch, for marriage, for life, for boundaries, for rules, for ministry, but because that's what the world says has to happen. But then we're going to slap some church salsa on it, saying there's more boundaries because you're a Christian, and those don't always match up. I've honestly seen healthier un-Christians in marriage and in life and in what they would call, I would say, ministry Not necessarily like Christian ministry, but loving people, serving people, running a business that helps people in their belief system. That is actually healthier and thriving than a lot of the church because of the slapped on salsa with rules that don't match Um, and for me, I always was like wow, this, this is intriguing. How do I start unpacking this? How do I start helping people?

Speaker 2: 5:13

Because we're stuck in a religious bubble and we can't gain traction because we're almost so labeled that when you're like, yeah, I'm a believer, people are like, oh, okay, well then you're not going to understand if I'm living with my man, you're not going to understand if I have tattoos. You're going to not understand if I think this way or I'm a lesbian and I'm like whoa, that's. That is not the heart of Jesus. And as I started recognizing the verse that talks about Jesus saying, you will understand people if you get a heart for them, like I have a heart for them, lord, how do I have a heart for people? And a lot of that was realizing. The things that Christians and the church fear are mostly because they don't understand it, and right there right, and I think that goes with anything like weapons, um, vehicles, planes, anything that you don't understand.

Speaker 2: 6:16

You're likely going to fear, and I realized a lot of that came with dreams and the prophetic. When you say prophet, my understanding was okay, I'm going to find someone who has this anointing and is super spiritual and they're going to come and they're going to read my mail and then next time I need help, I'm going to have to go find someone like that. That led me on a journey of going God, I know there's more. God, I know there's more and I will never forget 2020, covid hit and I was like God, I want to get out of Colorado. I had this dream of like this black cloud coming and I had multiple dreams of end times, related things with Colorado Springs, and so I had this great fear, like this huge fear, and I was like we need to get out, we need to go to Florida, we need to go somewhere, and I remember like flying out there in the middle of all this, just going like this doesn't sit, like as much as the beach is my happy place, as much as this is where I want to be, god was like you can, but you're going to miss everything I have for you. And so I remember flying home like almost angry at God, like I want to be at the beach. This isn't fair. And I know you're moving me to the mountains.

Speaker 2: 7:32

And I remember re-looking for a house here and this house opened up in Woodland Park and it transitioned me and my family up there for the four hardest years of my life and this is kind of where I guess my whole journey began was I laid down on my living room floor and when I tell you, this house felt like a Mexican exploded pinata. It was green and brown and orange and it was all over the place and I just lay there crying, like just going. God, there's got to be more. Like you need to give me direction. And my friend Amber was posting and she's like I would love to prophesy and I'm learning how to be prophetic. And I was like I don't understand that. Like people can be prophetic. What does this mean? And then the new scripture you know New Testament scripture tells us we can all prophesy, but some are anointed as prophets.

Speaker 2: 8:29

And I was like, okay, I need to unpack this. So I'm healing, I'm running a business, I'm raising my kids, people are starting to come into our home, that my anointing to mentor, my motherhood anointing, which I didn't know I had started to unlock, and I got on the zoom with her, my friend Amber, and two other people who I'm still connected to one of them today as well and they started prophesying over me, reading my mail, and I'm like, how are these women doing this? Like Lord, like what is this? And so I know they. They were like have you heard of Emma Stark? Are you called to Europe? And I was like I don't know who Emma Stark is, but I'm hungry, like, and so I started this deep dive into the prophetic and I started following Emma Stark. She's out of Scotland, she's from Northern Ireland. Have you heard of her?

Speaker 1: 9:21

Yeah, yep, yep, she has a warrior book. I can't remember the name of it.

Speaker 2: 9:25

Yes, and I got in when she was called Emerging Prophets and that is a really significant thing to me, that detail that I would say the Lord did, because I was then attracted to the title Emerging Prophets and I didn't know that at the time. And so I went on and they were like, oh, we're going to have this course where you can learn all the prophetic. And so I applied and I remember getting denied and I was so crushed and I was like God, I swore this was the path that you were leading me on, and I was kind of in shock. And then I got an email and I said, hey, you have everything, but we need you to do like some more healing. We need you to go online and kind of start from the beginning before and then in a year, reapply. So I was like, okay, I can do that. So I did, I started diving in.

Speaker 2: 10:16

I started staying up, drinking tea and having fire time with the Lord and creating the mood and just really praying that and these, the dreams started exploding again. These visions would start happening, words of knowledge would start coming, and of course I didn't really know a lot about that. And so I remember seeing um, a global prophetic alliance which is called so they were known as gpa emerging prophets. They were having an in-person for the first time ever conference in scotland and I was like, oh my gosh, I need to be there. But bethel at the same time was having a prophets um, a week-long like prophets training, and I was like lord was like you need to go with that, and I was like, oh my gosh, like no, I want to be in scotland, he's yes, but not yet. And so I couldn't reapply for this program until September.

Speaker 2: 11:10

And so I went to the conference at Bethel in August and I remember having four dreams back to back, every day before I went, that I was pregnant and it was either I saw it on a a, a, a P test or on an ultrasound, or I was pregnant with twins, like. Or I saw my bump and I was like, lord, my tubes are tied, but like, if you want me to have another kid, okay and um, I remember giving my friend I'm going to rewind that year I remember giving my friend a prophecy and it was the first time that I had been given, like I knew I was supposed to give a prophetic word. So this was in March of that same year, so I'm going to rewind a little bit. Was it still 2020, 2021? Yes, so it was 2021.

Speaker 1: 12:02

And I was going to the Bethel 2021?.

Speaker 2: 12:04

Yes, so it's 2021. And I was going to the Bethel in 2021, in August. So rewind to March of 2021. This is why this is so important. It was the first time I felt like this pounding in my chest to give a prophetic word and I was like I don't know if I'm supposed to like, but we can all prophesy. So here we go, and I remember calling her up, nervous, saying this is what I saw. I saw you're going to be pregnant and have a, have a baby. And I knew that she was going through a lot of things, to where she'd had tons of miscarriages. So I was like God, like I don't want to mess this up for her, like this is crazy. And I said I also ain't supposed to be pregnant. And I remember her saying, well, I might be. And I was like I think I might be.

Speaker 2: 12:47

And then I ended up in the hospital with an ovarian cyst and she ended up not being pregnant or having a miscarriage. And I was shattered. I literally stopped diving into the prophetic almost like for a month and then almost in like a depression, because I was like I don't know what I just did. I'm not like this is crazy, like I knew this wasn't something I should have touched and I remember her, her calling me, saying how are you doing? You got it wrong, but there's something you're missing, like you had it, but it wasn't what you thought. You took it very tangibly and I was just like I, I am so sorry. And she's like, no, no, this is, this is where I get to help you. She goes. I don't want you to lose your faith because I can handle it. She goes me and my journey with the Lord is so strong and I want to make sure that you don't lose what you have, and I will never forget that moment. I said, okay, I will go re-ask, and so I did. And the Lord said August, and this is why that was so important. The Lord said you will be pregnant and give birth in August, and for your friend it will be August as well. So all summer I'm like, oh my gosh, maybe I'm going to have this miraculous pregnancy, and so is she.

Speaker 2: 14:07

And I remember having all those dreams. So now we're forward, fasting to August, right, and I had all those pregnancy dreams and I was so nervous. I was like, oh my gosh, I'm going to get pregnant at this conference. This is crazy. And I started my period 10 days before it should have happened. So I'm having all these pregnancy and dreams. I get there in Bethel in my period starts. And I was like, okay, so now I'm even more hesitant because I'm like this is crazy, I never start this early. Like this is literally God saying you're not getting pregnant in the physical. And I was like, okay, lord, then what is it you're telling me? And so I told her. I was like, hey, this is what's going on. And she was like I'm not pregnant either, but I have this desire to start this ministry. And I was like, oh, you're pregnant with an idea, you're pregnant with a business. So then I'm like, whoa, maybe I'm spiritually pregnant, maybe it's not a physical pregnancy. And this is where dreams started to make me go whoa, lord, maybe you're not always speaking about something tangible, maybe it is something spiritual. We need to start unlocking dreams. And so that's kind of where that kind of started to grow.

Speaker 2: 15:22

And then I remember the last day of the conference. I started getting nauseous, throwing up, couldn't keep food down, very much like being pregnant. And it was happening all day and I was just like car sick, nausea, wanted some things, couldn't handle smells, I could feel almost in the spiritual realm like like. I could feel like almost like angel force around me that's the only way I can describe it. And I remember people coming up and praying over me and this one guy, he, came out and we were there was about 2000 people there. So we were broken up in community groups of about 20, 25. And the leaders of my group were emerging profit leaders and I just I was like where have I heard this before? Where have I heard this? Emerging profits, emerging profits. And so this whole day I was having this crazy out of body but physical response in like very tangible experience.

Speaker 2: 16:17

And I remember this guy came out from my community and he pulls rods out of my back and he goes I'm going to give you a father's hug, I'm releasing the motherhood anointing that you have been carrying, and it broke, the nausea broke. I started crying. I was like that's it, I'm pregnant with the motherhood anointing. Like this is crazy. And so I remember um, getting a snack and going back in and the Lord was like you need to go talk to Ben. And I was like okay, uh, there's 2000 people here.

Speaker 2: 16:51

He's like turn around. And I turned around and I saw him and there was no one around him. So I beelined it and I'm about maybe four feet away and I'm like, hey, excuse me. And he turns around and he goes whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, he goes. I don't know what you're going to say. He goes.

Speaker 2: 17:00

But you have gifts of discernment. He goes. You're a dreamer? Um, you're not sick in the physical, you're not pregnant. He goes. It's all spiritual. The Lord wants to talk to you. So I'm going to pray over you, healing whatever, but like, basically, go back with the Lord. And I was like, okay, I'm not crazy, um, and at Buffalo is where I will actually catch feathers, like white feathers, like tangibly catch feathers, um, in the spirit, and they're like, oh yeah, that's very common. So that actually followed me back and I still catch feathers to this day. But that's when I'm like, okay, lord, you're doing something, because it's crazy. And so at the end of that conference they did a fire tunnel. Familiar with what a fire tunnel is? Yeah, no, are you familiar with what a fire tunnel is?

Speaker 1: 17:49

Monday, but people who are listening may not know.

Speaker 2: 17:54

Okay, so that's where everyone at Bethel, all the leaders, get off the stage. They put worship music on and they had us line up around the room and then they come all the way around the room and they prophesy over us like in the spirit, or pray over us or just release the fire, as they call it, and a lot of people will pass out in the spirit or get encounters or things like that. So when that started happening and the spirit started growing in the room again, I wanted to throw up and I remember running out, going into the bathroom, puking in the trash can, coming back in, and they were all panicking. They're like you can't go in the trash can coming back in, and they were all panicking. They're like you can't go in there, like that's a school, and I was like I'm sorry. And then Haley Braun came up and touched me and boom, I went out in the spirit.

Speaker 2: 18:39

After that we got in the car and started driving back to Sacramento and I was just like overflowing with joy, with like this encounter, and I was like emerging prophets. I think that has to do with Emma Stark, and so I remember emailing the community group leader, going, are you connected? And she was like, well, that's a whole European thing. But she did come out last week to to Vacaville, california. Um, keith Ferrante runs this whole emerging prophets Colorado, but I think it's separate ministries. And so I was like once, once again, I hit a dead end. I was like, okay, they're not connected. Um, but then why, lord, why bring me to Bethel and all this? So when I got back to Colorado, I just was. I was like, okay, I'm going to reapply for the Scotland emerging prophets. And I didn't have any peace. And so I started digging like emerging prophets and that same fall that year, in September, the next month, in two weeks, was starting for the first time ever, colorado emerging prophets. And I was like, whoa, and it was a year-long course and it was someone who launched it here in Colorado Springs through, who had graduated, through Keith Ferrante. So under his, his mentorship, under his wings, they launched a Colorado Springs location. And God was like I need you to do this first. So I didn't reapply for Emerging Prophets Scotland and instead I applied and got into Emerging Prophets Colorado.

Speaker 2: 20:04

So I started that journey and, as I was, the Lord was showing me even more like your foundation, your identity, your community, your joy, your victorious eschatology, which is basically speaking prophetically, hope. Like Joseph did, he said here's a problem, but then here's a solution. That is victorious eschatology. That's bringing hope and a solution to a dark situation. And through all of that, dreams and learning about dreams started opening up. I went back to Bethel in March and learned under Ben. He did like a two-day dream intensive and learned about dreams. Then fast forward um.

Speaker 2: 20:44

The next year I went to the GPA um conference. That happened in Scotland took all three of my babies and went and I was like whoa, like learn more about dreams there. And this burning just was like OK, I need, this is next level, like I need to get a part of this community, like I felt at home there. And so all of this was starting to grow and build and I graduated Emerging Prophets Colorado. Joined um, applied when I got back December of 2022, 2023, 2023. So graduated 2022.

Speaker 2: 21:25

Emerging Prophets Colorado. Went to the conference, went to applied, applied for Global Prophetic Alliance. So they had changed their name and they called it Raising the Prophets. So they went from Emerging Prophets to Raising the Prophets, changed the curriculum, revamped and I applied in December of 2023. I got accepted and all of last year was Raising the prophets, scotland.

Speaker 2: 21:52

So I went to scotland in march of last year and october of last year, and where my dreams and everything started to explode was when I got back from scotland in march 2024, and the lord was like I need you to go back through every dream, every journal, every note, every dream that you have written down from 2016. I'm missing 2020. I have no idea what happened to it. Um, I can't find it. And I told the Lord all right, if there was, if there were dreams that were important in that time, like give them to me, uh, but he hasn't. So I'm just trusting him that whatever was in that season was like give them to me, but he hasn't. So I'm just trusting him that whatever was in that season was either not ready yet or supposed to stay in that season. And so I did, I wrote down physically and when I tell you, kristen, it was, ah, I wanted to stop. So bad. I was like this is ridiculous. But I rewrote and combined every dream into one journal and I tagged it 2016, 2017.

Speaker 2: 22:51

And I I started seeing patterns, and this is something that I really like to pay attention to is we all have what I call our own syllabus, and a syllabus can be like if you see cats, or if you see a beach, or, for me, I've had over 50 dreams of being pregnant in my dreams. To me that's a pattern and that can be something that I can add to my syllabus. There are so many resources, I'm sure you know, out there that we also have to be careful with of unpacking what dreams mean and as amazing and as good as they are. Um, I always say there's like a front door and a back door in the spirit, and this is where and I only touched on this briefly because we could go down a rabbit trail here but this is where people can, like witches and warlocks and things like that, can do the same or similar things as believers can, and I truly believe this is why the church is sometimes afraid of that, but the Bible clearly says that Satan can't create anything new under the sun, and so if we are watching the world be able to do all these things, we can do all these things, but they're meant for good, they're meant for better, they're actually there's like a whole mirror, reverse, so, where they're going through, as I call it, the back door. Unable to interpret, they only get part of that picture. They can only see the negative, the dark, or potentially the hope that they're allowed to see. But they can't see beyond that. And as believers, we're allowed to see into the future, in the good, in way beyond, because the holy spirit and we have unlimited access to that.

Speaker 2: 24:33

So when we're talking about dreams and symbols, god can give us specific things that start showing up as patterns into our dreams. So I started recognizing that. I was like, oh lord, what are you showing me? So over? It took me, I believe, a month when I got back to do this and then I just knew like the Lord was like you need to write a book, you need to write a book, and it's not like a crazy big book, but I would call it. It's more like a workbook, um, and it kind of gives people like an outline or a guideline of when you're talking about dreams, where do I even start? And for me, I think that's why I was drawn to really draw something tangible and simple for people.

Speaker 2: 25:16

Because when I was doing that, I dove into the Bible and I was like, okay, who are the dreamers and what did they dream? In the Bible and Kristen, there are 21 recorded dreams or, yeah, dreams dreamers in the Bible. Some of them are female. There are six kings, there's one woman and then there's two that are named Joseph. And then just remember like we're not counting visions, those are when you're awake. We're just talking about when they went to sleep and the Lord spoke to them.

Speaker 2: 25:52

And the more as I unpacked this, the more as I was writing I was realizing that a lot of people, a lot of people that I was talking to, would just voice record it, write it down and put it away, put it on a shelf, but they didn't really unpack it. And the Lord really took me to the scripture in Acts. That's like, hey, the young men are going to be getting visions and old men are going to be dreaming. And the Lord was really heightening on my heart the importance of dreams unlocking, because if you can help someone unlock their dreams at night, they will be able to help unlock their dreams and visions during the day. And we're not. Those are keys and we're not utilizing everything and I truly believe the Lord's like who is willing to unlock them, because then I'm going to increase.

Speaker 2: 26:41

And we were noticing me and other dreamers were noticing a pattern in 2024 and 2023, where people weren't really dreaming and it was almost like the dream life was silent and we were getting great rest, but we weren't really dreaming. And I felt like the Lord was like I need people to say yes, I need people to be all in, I need people to be willing to say I will unlock dreams. Whether you are a dreamer or not, you can help, like for my, for my family. My kids dream, and I truly believe they dream more. When I'm pressing in and releasing dreams, I always open up Jacob's ladder over my pillow every night before I sleep, and when I do, I notice that they dream as well, and so it kind of started with me learning how to help them interpret their dreams instead of just being like oh yeah, that's cool. Like the Lord was like I give them dreams because they are willing to see things, faith like a child that other people aren't. And then that's when I was like okay, then the dreamer is important, the person who is dreaming is important, and things that I was learning at Bethel and then things that I was learning in Scotland, kind of all kind of collided of like we need to not just go up to people and have people rely on the prophetic to release dreams, but we can raise up people and this is truly where my passion and desire is. I want to raise up people to where they can take the fire and raise up other people, and that's how the flame spread, kind of like candle to candle is like take this, these tools of how to unlock dreams with the Lord that are very practical and help people unlock.

Speaker 2: 28:28

Now I will say that if you're running into someone in Walmart and they're not a believer, this still works right Because we all have the Holy Spirit. But you might have to take more of a, you might have to lean more into the Holy Spirit to really help them and be able to understand it from a dreamer perspective. But you're going to be pulling out information. I watch them as they're like okay, this is my dream. I'm like okay, then let's learn more about you. Why is your aunt Sue in your dream? Did you have a relationship with her right?

Speaker 2: 29:02

You kind of have to start helping them unpack, because sometimes dreams are too much. Sometimes they're very raw and real, sometimes they're overwhelming, sometimes they're even scary. But if I go in, for instance, kristen and you almost drowned as a kid on the beach, but for me, the beach is my happy place. If I go in from the beach as a good thing, maybe the Lord's giving you a warning dream Because he knows you almost died on the beach. I can't come in and just say, well, this was a great thing, this is. This is not a warning dream, kristen. Like this is happy, or you need to look at it from a different perspective.

Speaker 2: 29:40

I can give you perspective, but I always like to be aware of what the place or the color or the person means to this person in their dream, because the Lord gave it to you.

Speaker 2: 29:53

If he would have, if he needed it to have a different perspective, he would have given it to me, um, or somebody else. But he tangibly and, I think, very distinctly, specifically give certain people dreams, um. You can see this all throughout the Bible. The Lord gave Daniel a very specific dream. He gave Joseph a very specific dream. For instance, the Lord could have given Mary a dream about her child that was to come in, jesus Great. But if Joseph wouldn't have gotten that dream about Mary, he wouldn't have married her and all the whole story of Jesus potentially could have changed by simply the Lord giving somebody else the dream, and so for me, even the Magi that were given a dream. It led them down a different path because of that, and if anyone else would have been given the dream, they would have had that almost like assignment. So that's a little bit of do you have any questions? As we're going along, it's a little bit of.

Speaker 1: 31:06

I'm a huge dreamer too. I've always very, very vivid dreams. Have you had? Have you heard about people who have ever? I guess, what I've had for years and years, even when I was a kid, I would. My dream would end in the morning, the alarm would go off and I was always very sad, but I would have a knowledge of what I was dreaming. And then, as I was going to bed the next night, like that same night, it was like, as I was starting to drift off, it was almost like you'd be watching a movie. You know, it went in pause in the morning when he woke up and then it started playing again. Have you heard that before?

Speaker 2: 31:42

I have. I personally don't dream that way, but I have encountered many people who um had a dream that repeats consistently for years, or they have gone right back into a dream where they've left off To me. I love to talk to those people and try to understand more, but the only conclusion that I have come to with the Lord is that he he gives different people different ways of dreaming, and this is where I actually created and really believe in a dream community. It's why I started a Facebook page for dreamers, it's why I have my website, it's why I have my website, it's why I meet once a month at a coffee shop, Because we can get stuck from one perspective, even as dreamers, and it's honestly why we need the community of dreamers.

Speaker 2: 32:41

And you'll start to know certain people, because being dreams can become very personal and I will never forget that what we thought was a government dream turned into a abortion dream kind of situation with someone in the past and I was like whoa, like it gets very raw and real. And so I truly believe that, like I said, like everyone has a different dream life. I truly believe that, like I said, like everyone has a different dream life, so it doesn't necessarily for me mean something crazy. I just think it's just how the Lord wants to speak to you in dreams. Just like we all have a different kind of prophetic language. Some of us are like I will see images when I'm prophesying and I will then have to take those images and bring them to life with words. Other people it's what's called the Naba flow. They will just start speaking words and they don't get images. Again, it's not a bad thing or a good thing. I just truly believe the Lord takes the person and how they connect with him and how they run as a human.

Speaker 1: 33:56

And he gives them it in a different way. Yeah, well, I was kind of curious as well. You know, I had a moment. I think one of the most impactful dreams that I'd had, probably back in 2022, was when somebody had gone missing and there was in my dream. There was some symbols that actually led to where that person was and I thought, wow, thank you for cause I had a friend who did some dream interpreting and she helped kind of pull out some of the things that were seen in the dream. Yeah, I didn't really. You know, like I said, I've been a dreamer my whole life. I just thought that that was normal. I didn't, I guess I didn't think that people didn't dream like that. So I haven't had the you know, backend training, even still, I actually it's interesting for having this conversation today because, um, there's some local uh, local like equipping center that is going to be doing some more training in dreaming.

Speaker 1: 34:51

So it's been highlighted to me quite a bit, I think partly because I am such a dreamer and I would love to be able to, um, you know, unpack things, I think mostly for myself, but if people come along my path, of course, like I want people to find you, um, I was going to say we'll definitely link, if you're open to it, everything you're talking about. You know, the resources that you have, the Facebook group if you're open to that, I do really believe that this is needed. And my second part of that was like how has it been well received? Has it been well received Like are you in a church right now that? Are you like going to a church that has received this and is like wanting to go deeper? Does that make sense?

Speaker 2: 35:37

Yeah, absolutely. Um, it is completely well received. Um, I have noticed, though, that, like, once people have come and learned, it's really easy for them them to, to grab a workbook and to go and start stewarding on their own, and then it kind of becomes a more of they'll text me with a question, or their friend will say hey, I need to zoom, and I'll help someone over zoom with a dream. Um, and then those that actually want to know how to help people tend to be the ones that come to the class after that and say, okay, teach me how to get comfortable with helping other people unpack their dreams. And so I'm actually thinking about doing two different classes one for new people who need to go through the entire dream baseline, and then a second one for those who are like okay, I am a dreamer, I'm passionate about people and I want to be able to, like you were saying for yourself, learn more so I can help others unpack it and or just help yourself more. Right. But even with that, like, there are times where I wake up from a dream, being a dreamer and knowing all of this and having written a workbook going, I am stuck, like I can't get out of my one perspective, and it's kind of like when you see a car accident, like there's everyone standing around is going to see a different view of the same thing and have a slightly different perspective. And so this is where, being a feeler and a seer, I will go to someone who is a thinker and say, please give me a different perspective, someone that I trust, someone that if something happens it's not going to be like um, scary, like I've had a dream where I was pregnant with someone else's child, and that's not really something you can just ask anyone about. Because you're like, oh, the church will freak out, the church is going to birth a cow, if they knew my dream. Because you're like, oh, the church will freak out, the church is going to birth a cow, if they knew my dream, and it was like, well, the Lord.

Speaker 2: 37:35

I went to my mentor at the time and I was like help. And she was like, hey, what is it that you carry? And I was like motherhood anointing. What is it that they carry? Oh, they do youth and inner city outreach Great. So you dreamed about your child with this person dying.

Speaker 2: 37:55

So your anointings, it's about your anointing. It's about saving a generation. It's about the world trying to steal and abort these children and their identities, and that unlocked, like everything, and I was able to go share this dream with this person and say, hey, prepare yourself. It was going to sound a little crazy, but I have the interpretation, and so that's. Something.

Speaker 2: 38:22

Else is I'm always like, hey, we need the other people to bounce off of, because if I would have just gone to this person and been like I was pregnant with your child in my dream last night, that can lead to open doors of, I truly believe, adultery and wrong thoughts and all of these things that absolutely do not have any place or openings in anyone's life. And we all carry an anointing. And this is where I tell people like Kristen, you carry anointing and it's very attractive. Anointings are attractive to people and we gravitate towards certain peoples, I truly believe, because it is of what they carry, and so we have to make sure that we are doing correctly to protect ourselves and those that we're ministering to. So having a group of dreamers start to come together for me is like, okay, we can kind of know. It's a place to keep us accountable, it's a place to have perspective and it's a place to be able to then rise up other people, and I know just having to be able to send my dreams to two separate people. I got two separate answers and I was able to then take those back to the drawing board with the Lord, get my own answer and be able to say, whoa, here's the key, insert it, this makes sense. And then there's going to be somewhere you're like I don't really understand and you're going to recognize where certain people can have wisdom and revelation.

Speaker 2: 39:55

But until they understand that the Lord can speak differently through a dream, I guess I should explain that, for instance, I believe all dreams are from the Lord and I know there this is a huge, controversial, almost like, I guess, statement because of the fact that we can't confirm or deny any of that. The Bible is actually not a hundred percent clear, except there are some specifically mentioned times where it says that the Lord gave these dreams. So I've kind of seen it as like a window. And that window would be because people are like, oh, I've had demons in my dream, I've had really dark nightmares that are repeating and repeating and repeating, and normally you would be like, oh, that's from Satan. And for me personally, what I have found, and I've always left it, even in my workbook. I'm like, I'm open to being wrong, please do your own research, but I'm not stating it as fact. But basically, what I've kind of come to the conclusion of is like if it's a big window and you're having these repetitive dreams of something dark and scary when you wake up.

Speaker 2: 41:07

Because we dream in categories like soul dreams, body dreams, spirit dreams, confirmation dreams, warning dreams, guidance dreams, healing and deliverance dreams. We dream in so many different categories. We have to recognize did we take something medically before we went to bed? Did we watch something or participate in something before we went to bed? Something or participate in something before we went to bed? Are we in a country that is demonically oppressed? Are we in a building where something terrible is happening on the other side of the wall? Like we can't be panicking about this. This is why the Lord says establish your tent right. We can establish in our room a tent where nothing can attack us while we're sleeping. But if that is still happening and we've no longer got our pillows, whatever, then we have to start sifting. Okay, god, did I do anything? Am I in sin? Is there anything? And if there is nothing and you're still having this, then that's another layer of saying, okay, what is in the environment around me, god? Is this for someone? Is this a warning for someone? Is someone else being attacked by something? Is this a generational curse? That's a huge one.

Speaker 2: 42:22

I remember this lady had. She told me she's like on a list, like I was tormented for years with like a nightmare and I always blame Satan and she goes. Then when I, when I was listening to you and I was hearing about like this window concept of like some, like God being able to show us things, but we're still protected. But it feels very real when you're looking at a window, like it still can feel, like it can jump in at you, she goes. I went and I realized that my great grandma was involved with witchcraft and she goes. I had never known about that, I had never broken it off, and so she goes. I literally broke off the soul tie with my grandma, broke it off, went through sozo, healing or restoring the foundations, healing Like they take you through breaking off generational curses, and once she did that, she never had that nightmare again.

Speaker 2: 43:14

And that was another part of like my research factor of saying wow, so the Lord could be showing us or allowing things to come across our dreams that can't touch us right? The other thing is is I've had people wake up from dreams and there is a demon over them and that demon in their room was affecting the atmosphere spiritually, coming into their dream, and this might be going very deep, very fast for some people, so I'll just touch lightly on it. But there are things called monitoring spirits and they can come into the spirit realm with us and they have eyes and ears to see for Satan and report back. Basically, we can blind them, we can silence them and we can kick them out. But a lot of times when I was being taught to like kind of go into my secret place with the Lord, they can kind of come in with me and if I see something like that, I was to step out of the spirit, get rid of them and then go back in. That's all we had to do.

Speaker 2: 44:14

Our authority, we have all authority, but I truly believe that that can happen in dreams as well. If it can happen in visions while we're awake, it can happen when we're dreaming. They can try to come in and mess with us. But, all that being said, we have authority and we can kick them out. I remember waking up with a demon in my room and I woke up out of a dream because it was affecting my dream. And I woke up out of the dream and I looked at it and I said you're not allowed here. I said I don't know who sent you or where you come from, but I bind you, I silence you, get out. And I rolled back over, went to sleep and my dream was perfectly smooth from there on out because I had dealt with what was like coming at me in the atmosphere.

Speaker 1: 44:56

Girl, you are a plethora of wisdom and knowledge in this realm of dreams. My mind is blown right now. I'm like questions that I've had and you know I actually have like a, an app called Journey and I I type out my dreams if I'm able to remember them the next day. But I don't know about some of the listeners, but those of you who are also dreamers I actually don't often take a lot of time to unpack my dreams. I have so much like pouring into me, like in the night and in the day. I'm like it would take hours a day to like super unpack things. But I love one of the things I love that you mentioned, as well as having a community to be around.

Speaker 1: 45:44

I don't necessarily personally have a community that I unpack dreams with. I would imagine that the people that come around to you, like you, create a safe place for people to do that. Where it's not, you know, there's no like, oh my gosh, I can't believe you. You know, I'm just imagining what somebody might be thinking like oh my God, can I actually share a dream like this? Yes, because I have dreams about other people kind of like you, and I've, you know, kind of gone out on a ledge at some time. You know sometimes to take the time to unpack it. You know with Holy Spirit and you know, deliver it. And you know, at times I would just say, you know, this is what I'm hearing, this is what I'm seeing, this is the dream I had, and then encourage them to go unpack it with the Lord. So that's what I've done in the past.

Speaker 2: 46:36

Yes, that is exactly what I want to rise up. Yes, that is exactly what I want to rise up, and I'm. The image that the Lord gave me when I was writing this workbook um was a mini fire that starts other fires. And if you think about that concept of how many dreams you have had, how many dreams in just your lifetime that you have had, and then times that by everyone in the world, and how many dreams are going on, um, like unpacked right, like without coming to fruition, and so all of these dreams are coming down. And the thing the Lord showed me, he was like there are so many blueprints and strategies that are coming to people in dreams, and he's like I'm even giving the unbelievers dreams because they will more, they will be more likely to ask for help than even the believers. And I truly believe that during the time that it was silent, people were like I'm not dreaming, I'm not dreaming. God, give me more dreams. He was like, almost like laughing, because he was like those who are willing to steward, I will give you more, just like in matthew. He's like those who have a little, I will give more to, and those who do nothing with, sure, you can keep dreaming or I will just pause your dreams, but they're not going to be as impactful and tangible. Like I don't know if you've heard of Nate Johnston, but he's here in Colorado Springs and he's an avid dreamer and there are dreams that are like next level encounters that he posts. I'm like God, I want that. Like, oh my goodness, like I want those. Like I know I've had a dream where I've actually transported in the spirit somewhere, because I woke up and I remember scrolling on Instagram the next day and the exact room, color, wall, paint, furniture that was in my dream was in this picture of this person that I had dreamed about and I was like, oh my goodness, like I was there, I was in that room. How is this even possible? And that is a whole nother level of dreaming and everyone has different levels and I truly believe the Lord will bring you and do the levels of the dreams that you're open to, you're willing to and that you say yes for. And the more that you do, the more that you open up for him, the more he will give, just like he did with the talents, and this is where I want to create.

Speaker 2: 48:57

I think anything that isn't understood can be taken out of context. And so this is where I'm like, hey, I am so passionate about teaching people how to help and there are times that I've had to even gently but kindly shut people down in the group saying, hey, let's pause. Just because you carry the anointing of being prophetic, maybe even, or even a prophet, I do not want you to prophesy what this dream means to this person right now, because in this safe space, I want them to learn how to get out, break down, have revelation and unpack in real time with the Holy Spirit. And if we I mean look at it as a, as being a mom, kristen, like if we just spoon fed our kids, we would be spoon feeding them until they were 16 and they become codependent, unhealthily. Even the Bible says we need to go from milk to meat, and this is kind of my perspective is I don't want you to be codependent on me. That's not my heart, that's not my purpose, but I'm here if you need help. So it's like, okay, I'm going to teach you everything and be very involved. And then from there, I want you to unpack the next dream, I want you to try and do it, and then, if you want perspective, you know, like great check in. It's kind of like that, that motherhood growing, of teaching them how to tie their shoes, to wiping their bums, to feeding themselves, like at some point they have to do it all on their own and then if they get stuck with a crazy tax issue, they're gonna call mom and that's fine, right, like if that kind of perspective and as someone who teaches dreams, like that is my hope is I can raise up other people, male or female, to lead these in different countries. It's why I'm actually working on right now Kristen is very exciting. I want to work on taking this into a digital content that I can put on my website so people in Turkey, in Ireland, in New Zealand, in Jamaica they can all get a hold of what I'm trying to teach and hopefully they can teach it where they're at and start unpacking these dreams.

Speaker 2: 51:03

Because the vision that I actually never finished, that I was getting to was I saw like a wildfire spreading across the world, fires starting everywhere. If we are all having dreams and we're unpacking these dreams and we are putting things into motion with these dreams, if Daniel and Joseph saved nations by knowing what to do to prevent famine, to store up for famine. If we're coming into the times of revelation, we're coming into the season of famine and governmental control and everything, and the Lord's like wars and rumors of wars and not to be afraid then we're gonna need blueprints and strategies. And I truly believe with everything in the Lord's like wars and rumors of wars and not to be afraid then we're going to need blueprints and strategies and I truly believe with everything in me that dreams are blueprints and strategies, just as much as a prophetic word, just as much as a vision, and if we're not opening up and unpacking these, the Lord will find other people to do it, but he's literally going on the earth right now. Like I need my dreamers to arise. If you're getting dreams, then sit down and take the time and I will tell you, kristen, you might feel right now that it's taking hours for you to unpack a dream. That is where, as you learn how to do it, it gets faster and then, when you get stuck, that can be like maybe the dream isn't for now. You might not fully unpack a dream in the moment.

Speaker 2: 52:22

I've had times when, when I was going back through all of my dreams since 2016,. Dream after dream was, was completed, it was done. It had already happened, but I didn't even utilize whatever information was in that dream that the Lord was telling me. Here I am in 2025 now, but in 2024 there was a dream in 2022 the Lord had given me in February. That came to pass in 2024 and I recognized it beginning of 2024, and I watched it happen in real time, but because I didn't know what to do with it at the time and I was still learning like whoa, this is okay, lord, what, what is this meaning? The told me okay, this is why I gave it to you, and so I will. Right now, I'll go back through and check my dreams to see if they've already happened, but he'll bring back to me memories of dreams while I'm talking to people. It just happened the other day. Someone messaged me on Instagram and I had a dream about her almost a year ago to the day so January 8th of 2024, and I think it was January 4th that she messaged me and I had had a dream about her and I was like that dream oh, my goodness, like Lord. Why are you bringing that dream back to my memory? And so I went back and read the dream and I started unpacking it to understand why that dream wasn't coming to fruition. And now he's taking me back there.

Speaker 2: 53:44

And so these dreams I think there's so much pressure on like it needs to all be interpreted in the moment. Some of them do, some of them are what I call a now dream. And then there's dreams where, even when you ask people around you like, hey, can you just give me clarity on this? I would love your perspective. And then that's where I encourage every dreamer Don't take it as cement. Take it and say wow, thank you, and then throw out what doesn't fit. Sift it Now. Don't throw it out. If you're convicted, Maybe you need that part, but sit on it, sit in the Lord, sit in the, you know, like the feelings and the emotions that you had in that dream, and really unpack it, because a whole different perspective is going to unlock it.

Speaker 2: 54:28

So, for me, I have something called the blue house dream. I dreamed it the day before I started Emerging Prophets in 2023, literally the night before and it was the most insane dream I've ever had. It started and it was just one long dream and I woke up and I remember the vivid colors and everything and I knew it was going to get interpreted. When I went to a dream conference at Bethel, I knew and so I submitted it and it did get interpreted when I was there, which is cool. But in the dream that there was a house that was being sold for 6.11 million dollars, and I remember when someone was like what, if it's Deuteronomy 6, 11? And boom, it was like this key went in and unlocked and like I was like whoa. But to this day that dream has not come to fruition yet and I'm still holding on to that dream, saying God, I want it to come to fruition. And then I I'm still holding on to that dream, saying God, I want it to come to fruition. And then I was listening to.

Speaker 2: 55:24

I want to say it was Craig. He runs the Daily Prophetic on Instagram and has a whole ministry and stuff, but he's, he's at Island. He, he, he said something the other day with Ephesians 6.11. And I was like whoa because it was like I had this like and I was like whoa because it was like I had this like instant, knowing that there was another meaning to the 6.11 in my blue house dream that hadn't come to fruition yet. And so I went and I, you know, took note of okay, there might be another scripture verse to this dream. It hasn't come on, come to pass yet. Okay, lord, what are you saying?

Speaker 2: 55:58

And so this is where, like you're saying, okay, start unpacking it, ask, you can take your dream and ask for help for me. I have a system on my website where people can reach out and ask for a zoom. Um, they can ask to. They can just submit it via email. Um, they can, they can connect with me that way to where they, if they need that, they can just come to the class in person, if they're local, and ask for help or just learn so they can unpack it themselves. Like, there's so many different ways that people can reach out for help, but this is the kind of community that I want.

Speaker 2: 56:32

People are exchanging their phone numbers at my dream group because I'm not the only one that can help them and if they're connecting with somebody else's anointing and perspective, then that's going to be their person that they can go to for dream help. But I always encourage you to have multiple people, because that person can get to know you almost so well that they also might start to put the dream that you give them in a box, because they start to learn your patterns. Sometimes that's good, and sometimes it can also make it to where you don't fully unlock your dream. This is where I will be like okay, lord, who do I need to contact to help me with this dream? And I have three or four very trusted people that I'm like, okay, I need to ask them, and in that moment they'll start unpacking with me and I'm like that's it. This is why I had to ask them, because they'll give me a different perspective. So, yeah, that's just a little bit of where I like to create that safe culture, but then I want other people to get connected through it. It's a way to bring these dreamers together, to where.

Speaker 2: 57:37

I've had people that are like I'm not really a dreamer, but I want to help the dreamers around me. And we need you guys. We need the people that are like, oh, I'm not a dreamer, but I would love to learn, because you're going to be able to help us from such a different perspective, unpack these dreams that your wisdom is what we need. And if you have the knowledge of kind of a roadmap, you know, like I always ask people was it a positive dream, was it a negative dream? In my workbook I've created a template, a visual template that people can just start breaking down their dream visually to where it takes a lot of the wordiness of the dream or the details of the dream, to where it becomes a tangible level that they can actually like, say okay, this is no longer overwhelming.

Speaker 2: 58:26

And then from there you can even send certain pieces that you're starting to unpack to people and say, hey, how'd I dream?

Speaker 2: 58:32

What are your thought process about a zebra being in the dream? Well, I'm going to say what was? Was it a negative? Did you feel fearful? Well, what were the colors of your dream? And colors all have a positive and negative meaning, right? So I don't know if you know that, but colors have positive, negative meanings, and that's something else I put in my workbook is just a small guide to say listen, don't take this as life or death, like, please, don't. Please know that if symbols like cats and whatever, can mean something to that person, then so can colors, and the Lord can start creating for you specific meanings of colors for you in your dream life. He can also give you specific meanings of certain symbols for you in your dream life, just because, let's's say, a hat means covering.

Speaker 2: 59:22

Maybe for you the lord is like, a hat actually means a business opportunity.

Speaker 2: 59:27

So when your hat changes, your business changes, and so these are the things that we can start rhythming with the lord for our own dream life, to where, when you go to unpack a dream, go back to your little thing that you've created with the Lord and say, okay, there was another hat in my dream, it was this color, but I've never seen it this way before.

Speaker 2: 59:52

And that's where you can call on your community and say, hey, any thoughts of if the Lord really speaks to me about businesses as hats, why this one would be like a baseball hat that's black with smoke coming off of it. Right, like this is where, like they can already have context. But then they maybe can give you a different perspective, because you're so stuck that the hat means business now that maybe they'll pull it out to a different meaning that will unlock it in a different way, because now it means something else. Pull it out to a different meaning that will unlock it in a different way, because now it means something else. So just keeping yourself grounded and kind of having a baseline, but then being willing to change Like don't stick with cats have to mean something scary, like the Lord will shift and develop your dreams, as you're a dreamer and you're really pressing into it, and this is where we have to kind of allow that to happen as well.

Speaker 1: 1:00:43

Oh my gosh. You know, as I was listening to part of it's, it's very interesting because I just love your heart. You say unlocking and keys all the time. Those are my favorite. We have a lot of similarities but yet you're operating in a different pathway to help mobilize the dreamers. You know, I'm kind of mobilizing the messengers and as a spiritual midwife helping women to birth their things I like to say pregnant with purpose. So you're saying like wow.

Speaker 1: 1:01:12

So there's like we I just keep telling people like we need people. We need people Like I have the great privilege to come alongside women and unlock them in different ways than what you're doing, and how cool is it that we can like, in essence, collaborate in some ways. Right, so I could have some of my coaching clients come to that I'm, you know, doing some spiritual midwifing with. They're having dreams, not that I can't interpret, but to have another place where they can, you know, have others who are listening and able to dig deeper into the dream interpretation realm you know what I'm saying, absolutely, and I think this is where the Lord.

Speaker 2: 1:01:56

I think you just hit something on the head, kristen, that maybe you don't even realize. You just unlocked. But this is where the Lord, I think you just hit something on the head, kristen, that maybe you don't even realize. You just unlocked. But this is where the Lord is saying I'm changing my church as it is. The church is being deconstructed and we, as believers, feel safe either being solo, and especially America, western church. We need to wake up. We are so much about. I need to be the best, I need to be the most, I need to be recognized, I need to be on top, and this is where I'm passionate about being like man. You want to take this and run go for it. You want to create your own dream stuff for Turkey? Go for it. You want to take what I've created and you want to run with it in california? You know that culture better than I do. Go for it.

Speaker 2: 1:02:46

But I want to be able to help people and that's where, if, if the lord has created a body, right, we are the body. We are in his temple and we always put that in a box of church as a as a four wall building and if I'm not qualified, I can't do it. And yes, I do believe you need to have a level of health. So, please, people, don't take this and run with it and say Annalisa said I can do whatever I want. We need accountability and we need a foundation of health, and this is where my whole journey for the last six years has been healing myself. First, because when you're pointing one finger, you have three right back at you and my whole thing is please, do it from a space of health, because otherwise you will have to face the unhealth at some point and it will take down everything with you. Now, we're not going to be perfect, but this is where, as a body and this is what you hit on the head we need to be able to help other people without feeling like they're going to steal our ministry. We need to be able to help other people without feeling like man. I should be able to do this, like you were saying. You're like, oh, I could help people with dreams, but I'm really wanting to be focused on this coaching, and that's where I'm like girl, run with coaching, run with it. If you need a what is it called? A consult or someone to help your people with dreams. I'm here to help. I don't want to take your clients, I don't want to take your business. I'm here for a consult. I'm here to run in what I do best and help, support you and them so that they can turn right back around and go to you and then you can launch them. If I never get mentioned and I'm not a part of their testimony when they're in their ministry and they're like Kristen, help me with everything, that's okay.

Speaker 2: 1:04:25

I think that's the humility. Part of the of of ministry is we want to be known when we die for everything we've done, and I will. That is where our reward is in heaven is. You've heard, and we actually were just talking about this earlier, this is that's the part where our reward is in heaven. As you've heard, and we actually were just talking about this earlier, this is that's the part where our reward is in heaven. And if the Lord decides to accelerate your name and who you are and partner you with, you know, like Helen Keller and all the people of history and years later, we're talking about these people, right, like if the Lord wants to have your name last in history, he will do it, but that's not my goal. I know that's not your goal, I know that's not the purpose, and I truly believe that is the shaking, like an olive tree that has to be shook to get the harvest. I truly believe that's the shaking the church is going under is? It doesn't matter who you are, your label, your title, get over it.

Speaker 2: 1:05:19

People, just because there's people on platforms, they are on platforms and either they're unhealthy and they're going to crash soon and the Lord is going to deal with them, or the Lord has accelerated them to these platforms, not because they're any more supernatural, powerful, prophetic than you are, but because they're intimate with the Lord, they're humble and they're willing to be wrong, corrected and grow. And so for me, I'm like girl, go run. Like you want to take this and you don't need me anymore, that's okay with me. Like, but being able to create that and say, hey, like, can you help coach this person, can you help mentor this person, can you? And this is even with people that I have mentored in the past there is an end to our season sometimes, and even for them, it feels odd or uncomfortable or sad, or like they feel guilty and I'm like no, you and this is something Emma Stark said that I love so much and admire. It's something that I want to take from my life is, if my ceiling is your floor and you surpass me now, while I am still living, I do not want to hold you back, run go.

Speaker 2: 1:06:26

And Emma Stark always says I want my legacy to be while I'm living and then to continue after I'm gone. And so her and her husband actually have a two-year rotation or a year rotation where they will launch something, then they will pass it off to the next person who they know it can run it to, where they're never solely the only ones that have to do something. And that's kind of uncomfy in the christian realm, because if someone has been appointed, the all grandeur of you are the dream whisperer. They will like go to these people saying you're the only one that can do it, and to me that's between them and the lord. But to me there is just something that gets into like a bug light, as I call it, like a pyramid bug light in the christian culture, and it can create unhealthy codependency and it's where I will hand people a shovel and give them chances and if they're not willing to dig a well for themselves and they're only wanting to drink water from my well. That's where I'm like okay, I don't think we're a fit, I think you need to move on. I think you need to go over here or go get counseling, or maybe you need more time just by yourself, cause the whole point is to be able to point people back to the Holy spirit and say, cool, you're equipped, I'm here if you have questions, or whatever.

Speaker 2: 1:07:40

Kind of like Moses when he was rising up, um Joshua to to lead he. Joshua came to him and, but he went out and started doing things. He wasn't codependent, he was submissive while he was under Moses's authority, but he wasn't codependent. And so there's such a a gray area that I think the church is afraid of that. The lord is like I need you to break out of this fear and I need you to lean on other people, and that is one other thing that I love, that I'm just so absorbed with europe and the global prophetic alliance itself, is that they are so willing to connect and launch people, they are so willing to give them resources and say go. They are so willing to lean on other people who can do it better and not try to reinvent the wheel that is already working. They will add to the wheel, they will embellish the wheel, but they lean on those who have the strengths.

Speaker 2: 1:08:40

And I just saw this actual vision right now, as we're talking, kristen, of like these horses running and even um, and they were going to a formation like geese. And so I don't know if you know this about geese, but someone leads the triangle and then when that goose is tired, it falls back and another goose pulls ahead and leads to where they're all able to take that wind on and get rest and not have to fly as hard. And that is kind of where I see the Lord taking the church and people like you and me who are rising up and being obedient to run in our callings and raise other people up. Is we're okay with going to the back of the line to take a rest while we're having someone we trust run with this. So this has been-.

Speaker 1: 1:09:30

You would say that because I just watched a movie about migration last night.

Speaker 2: 1:09:34

That's amazing. I love how he does that.

Speaker 1: 1:09:39

It's so good. Oh my gosh. Well, I would love to have you back on again. This has been incredible. I know that there's going to be so many people that are going to be so blessed by everything you've shared today. Just mind blown over here.

Speaker 2: 1:09:54

Well, thank you for having me. This has been such a blessing and a joy, and I would love to come back on sometime. I feel like there are going to be more things that the Lord has us unpacked together in the future, and that's exciting.

Speaker 1: 1:10:07

Well, what do you have coming up that people can be involved in?

Speaker 2: 1:10:11

Let's see, february 1st I'm going to be having an online class for dreams. That will be that link will be published, I believe day of. So check my Facebook page it is dreams in motion for Facebook. And then I also have a website, which I know you're going to put the link below, but it's wwwdreamslivinginmotioncom, and I will be able to be contacted on there. My workbook is on there if you want to buy a digital copy, and then I have a class coming up tomorrow, actually in Colorado Springs at 10 am. We're going to be meeting in person to go over the workbook and any dreams. We will be unpacking some dreams then and just kind of grow our community here. And then I believe it's going to be March 15th in Colorado Springs, I'm going to be having an in-person dream intensive for one day and that is going to be very exciting. We're going to have worship and just really take an entire day to learn and unpack what dreams mean and just really take an entire day to learn and unpack what dreams mean Incredible.

Speaker 1: 1:11:27

Well, the podcast will be posted on the 17th of January, so you'll probably have just missed the last event. That'll be for January. If you hear that, it's for tomorrow. So I just want to clarify that. But definitely get on board with Annalisa's Facebook.

Speaker 2: 1:11:42

check out her website for events, especially this next February 1st event that's going to be happening every second Saturday of the month at 10 am. Currently we're meeting at Third Space Coffee, but all of those are created on events on my Facebook page, so you can always follow that and then know when anything local is coming up.

Speaker 1: 1:12:10

Very awesome. Well, you are doing such an amazing work. I love just this mission of going like, go as he's leading you, do the work that he's calling you to and he's definitely anointed to do for the space. I love to end the podcast by, you know, just asking you if you could just get a vision of, I would say, mostly women who check this out, but a woman who's listening in, because I really do this for the one. I'm not out here to have millions of people and who knows it could happen, but ultimately I get a vision for one woman who is listening in today. Would you just speak over her and pray us out? Absolutely.

Speaker 2: 1:12:53

So, to whoever you are listening, the Lord just wants to give you hope. You've been in a season of hiding and the Lord wants you to be brought into your strength. I see you almost like weak, exhausted, burned out, and the Lord is just saying, my daughter, I see you, it's time to step up and arise in what you've been wanting to do, and there have been naysayers in your life that have been saying you can't, you're not good enough, it's never going to happen. You might've even been hitting obstacle after obstacle after obstacle, and this is your season. 2025 is your season where the Lord is saying you are not going to have to push on the doors for it to open. I am going to be opening the doors ahead of you. All I need you to do is lift your head and not be afraid to step out and be bold and make the connections that I need you to make. There are people he wants you to meet. So get out of your home, jump online, be vulnerable. Even if you don't like the sound of your voice, do release something, and when you release I know Kristen is all about this when you release these sounds, it shifts and does things in the atmosphere. So I just release that over you and bless you to be able to be bold and launch this year.

Speaker 2: 1:14:09

God, I just thank you for Kristen. I just thank you for what she is doing. I just ask that you would bless her ministry, god. I just ask that you would bring strength to her body and her immune system and that you would increase her dream life, god, anything that has been hindering or blocking or been confusing. I just ask that you would solidify this life of dreaming and being a dreamer, god, and that she would be able to get blueprints and strategies to help those that she is coaching and mentoring and calling higher. Lord, anywhere where she's hit a roadblock with finances or doors, I just speak them bursting open right now and that finances are gonna start growing for her. In Jesus name.

Speaker 1: 1:14:51

Thank you for praying over me. Nobody's ever prayed over me before on here, of course. Well, thank you so much for being on today. I'm so like. It's just such a beautiful connection, like the Lord has literally been organically bringing people on the show and you, you've been incredible today. So thank you again for being on, thank you for being a brave voice who's setting others free. I'm going to close with our anchoring verse for hope unlocked it is. May the God of hope fill you with all joy and peace and believing, so that, by the power of the Holy Spirit, you may abound in hope. That's Romans 15, 13. So thank you again, annalise. I'll be back. Thanks for having me. You're so welcome. We'll talk soon. Bye.