Breaking Chains: Kelsey Decker’s Bold Journey from Trauma, Exploitation & Addiction to Wild Freedom

In this powerful episode of Hope Unlocked, host Kristin Kurtz welcomes Kelsey Decker, founder of Morning Glory Ministries, a nonprofit fighting sexual exploitation. Kelsey shares her extraordinary testimony of redemption, detailing her journey from New Age deception, abuse, cult involvement, addiction, and exploitation to radical salvation and deliverance through Jesus Christ. Kelsey’s raw and moving story unveils the spiritual battle she endured, the demonic oppression she faced, and the life-changing moment she encountered God’s truth in a small church in London. She recounts her supernatural baptism experience, where she was instantly set free from a lifetime of darkness and oppression. Now an author, speaker, and advocate, Kelsey is on a mission to bring the light of Jesus into the darkest places, offering hope and healing to those still bound. Tune in for an unforgettable testimony of deliverance, faith, and the power of God’s redemptive love.

Kelsey's contact info:
Website - www.morninggloryglobal.com
Email - MorningGloryGlobal77@gmail.com
Facebook

Kelsey's books:
Mary Magdalene in the Mirror: Freedom from Demonic Oppression
Relentless Love: An Affair to Remember

Chapters

• 0:16 From Darkness to Hope
• 13:37 Journey Through Addiction and Healing
• 28:58 From Cults to Dark World Exposed
• 39:52 From Fetish to Spiritual Awakening
• 47:43 Spiritual Awakening Through Trial and Redemption
• 1:02:40 Miraculous Transformation Through Spiritual Awakening
• 1:12:26 Empowering Women Through Ministry and Healing
• 1:23:12 Experience Freedom and Joy Through Faith

Transcript

Speaker 2: 0:16

Welcome to the Hope Unlocked podcast. I'm your host, kristen Kurtz, and I'm also the founder of New Wings Coaching. I help and empower wildhearted and adventurous women of faith feeling caged and stuck, unlock their true purpose and potential, break free from limitations and thrive with confidence, courage and hope. If you're curious to learn more about coaching with me, head to newwingscoachingnet and be sure to explore the show notes for ways to connect with me further. Get ready to dive in as we uncover empowering keys and insights in this episode. So tune in and let's unlock hope together.

Speaker 1: 0:48

Welcome to the Hope Unlocked podcast. I'm Kristen Kurtz, your host. I pray this episode is like a holy IV of hope for your soul. Please help me welcome Kelsey Decker to the show. I am thrilled to have her here today. I know that this is going to be a very powerful testimony and message for many, many reasons. And, kelsey, would you be open to sharing more about yourself before we get started into your testimony and what you're doing these days.

Speaker 3: 1:14

Yeah, absolutely so. Yes, as you said, I'm Kelsey Decker and I'm the founder of Morning Glory Ministries. We are a survivor-led evangelistic nonprofit fighting sexual exploitation with the gospel of Jesus Christ. So I am also an author and a speaker and I basically have been commissioned by the Lord to never stop testifying. So I'm super honored to be here today and to share my story and just you know, it's basically the foundation for the ministry, which is going back out into the sex industry and going into the highways and byways and reaching the lost and the hopeless and shining that light of Jesus in the darkness and restoring hope and dignity.

Speaker 1: 2:11

Well, of course, with this being Hope Unlocked, I knew that you would have a story of redemption and hope, and you definitely are a light. Every time I see your posts and just even hearing your voice, you definitely bring His light to the world. So, going back in time, what did it look like for you before being led to Christ and starting this ministry?

Speaker 3: 2:34

It looked very different. So I did not grow up in the church. It was very the opposite of what it is now. So essentially, I was raised in kind of the New Age metaphysical movement and that's what I was born into. That's really all that I knew until I was 40 years old, and that's when I had my radical salvation, radical deliverance, and so growing up in that environment, it's just very different. It's very much of the world very pagan.

Speaker 3: 3:09

You know, I just had these just different kinds of beliefs. Like didn't really have a grid for Jesus. There was definitely like we spoke of God, but it wasn't the God of the Bible, right. It was just kind of this. I don't even know, it's hard for me to even remember who he was to me before, but it was more like I guess people would say like the universe, right, like the universe is doing these things for you, and so he wasn't a man. Let's just say that.

Speaker 3: 3:41

So, yeah, I grew up with those beliefs and so where it was kind of like love and light on the outside, which is what a lot of new age type stuff is there was just a lot of darkness, though, going on behind the scenes and I feel like that's what happens. A lot we just kind of mask what's going on underneath. And so, beneath that, there was abuse in my family on all kinds of levels. I was abused as a child, sexually abused as a child, and that just opened these doorways to kind of the demonic realm. And so once those negative things start happening to you, we know that you know the kingdom of God it's a kingdom, it's legalities, and so the devil then gains this legal access into your life. And so throughout my life he gained a whole lot of access and he continued to just have a foothold, a foothold until he was just fully in there. It wasn't just a foothold, he had complete hold over my entire life and over my mind, over my body, over everything. And I know people say a lot like, oh, I sold my soul to the devil. I go back and forth with that one, because I feel like it's really easy to say and yet at the same time, like my soul has always belonged to God and so I don't know if it's really mine to sell. I believe that you know, yeah, so I don't know necessarily about that saying I always go back and forth with it, but if I were to say that that's definitely what happened over and over. So yeah, so then you know, growing up again just within within that household, it's. It's just you just don't really understand what's going on.

Speaker 3: 5:24

And because I was in this spiritual metaphysical community we were even in, I was opened up into the spirit realm from like four or five years old, and so I started being able to see into the spirit. I was able to see kind of like different realms and dimensions, but I didn't have a grid for what I was experiencing. So it kind of just makes you really confused, and especially when you're seeing things that other people can't see. And I was definitely hearing things like I just always kind of had different voices kind of like talking to me, telling me to do various things just very out of character. And so then, as I got a little bit older, we moved. We were living in St Louis actually at that time.

Speaker 3: 6:14

We moved back to Indiana and when we moved back to Indiana, my parents got divorced when I was seven years old. And again, this is what another kind of like doorway is. It's I call these all demonic doorways where where the devil kind of gains access, and so through that their divorce I really took all of that on, even at seven years old, thinking it was my fault, thinking that I should have done something to prevent that, and I went into some really, really intense depression and anxiety after that. And so by the time I was 10, then I was put on antidepressants and just all kinds of medicine. They were just trying to figure out what was wrong with me, and I know now that I was just very severely, demonically oppressed, and so then I just always had these kind of like sexual proclivities where I would just I was the shyest person, like if you see me now, you hear me now, you asked me before we came on, even Kristen, like you said, oh, you know, public speaking is that something you've always done?

Speaker 3: 7:15

As a child I was so shy like crazy, crazy shy. My hands sweat so much I like I wouldn't talk to anybody. My hands sweat so much I like I wouldn't talk to anybody. I hardly had any friends. I also just had all these crazy physical illnesses Like I, I wet the bed until I was 13 years old I would just do strange things, like standing in front of my window, like I would have these voices in my head just tell me to stand in front of the window at night with the curtains open and the light on in my room right, which means everybody from the outside can see inside, and I'm like 12 years old and so I would do these really strange things.

Speaker 3: 8:03

And then almost kind of like not even remember it. And then our neighbor started like complaining to my dad and it was just really bizarre. And then when I was 14, I got a job at a pizzeria. And I'm going into all these details because it just kind of shows, like, what people go through, because we don't always understand why people end up in the situations they're in. Right, it's like it's so easy to judge and be like, oh well, they made that choice or they did that. So so I go into a lot of detail, but bear with me, I appreciate you doing that, you know?

Speaker 1: 8:38

I think it helps somebody understand more.

Speaker 3: 8:41

Yeah, absolutely. So I started this job and I was working with all these like older, older people, right. And so this this guy that I was working with again, I was 14. I was a waitress in this guy in this pizzeria. He was 21.

Speaker 3: 8:55

He worked in the back and he used to just always, um, just, you know, tease me and just flirt with me, and I was just like this is the first time that had ever happened to me.

Speaker 3: 9:07

And so I'm suddenly like getting all of this attention from this person and it was like, wow, okay, and then he wants to like teach me things, quote unquote, and he's like just asking me about my sexual experience and all this.

Speaker 3: 9:20

So one night I end up, I was with my mom for the weekend and he convinces me to like sneak out. I sneak out of her house and I just go down the road and I get into the backseat of his Ford Bronco and you know, he was just going to kind of teach and show me some things and it definitely turned into more than that and more of like an assault experience and very, very, very traumatic. And I just remember going back to the house and just standing in the bathroom. I mean just sobbing, just sobbing, sobbing, and just had you know it was just bleeding, just blood running down my legs, and yeah it was. It was very traumatic, but you would think that when you have those kinds of like traumatic experiences, that it would it would make you want to stay away, but it's kind of like that floodgate was opened.

Speaker 3: 10:09

And then, once that's opened, it's like, oh man, all kinds of things, like the demons and other people, just start becoming very attracted to you. And so, uh, this guy never showed back up at work, probably because he realized he was 21 and I was 14. And the significance of that. And so then I started dating this guy from school. He was a senior in high school and again, just getting into crazy stuff, started smoking weed at that point and just staying out, and so I ended up getting caught because I wasn't always going to school on time and I wasn't always where I said I was going to be.

Speaker 3: 10:50

And so one day my dad just like he I came home and he put all of my stuff into trash bags and he put them on the front lawn and this is like suburban Indiana, you know, kind of nicer area. And so he, he put all of that and just had my mom come and pick me up, and living with her was like a very different, totally different scenario. She didn't even I don't even think we had electricity, like she didn't live in the nicest part of the city or anything, and I just, I just was going through so much, I was so traumatized. I was, just like I said now, smoking weed and getting curious about other things, and then I was really addicted to sex at this point already, and so this boyfriend would come over. And then I ended up getting caught by my mom and that was just again like the most embarrassing, traumatic thing that could happen. And so after that, and I wasn't allowed to have anything like we didn't have a phone, we didn't have anything. So so really, I just kind of hit this rock bottom and these voices in my head were just telling me like there's no point in you even living, like there's just not.

Speaker 3: 12:03

And so I went to the bathroom one night and I took all kinds of prescription and over-the-counter medications and it was about 800 pills and I, yeah, I sat down on the couch. I mean literally the grace of God that I'm alive. And I just sat down on the couch and I just thought I was never going to wake up again and that's all I wanted. I just wanted to make it easy, just not have to just be in this world. And of course I woke up the next morning and had to tell my mom what I did. She rushed me to the emergency room and then they start questioning you, right, because you're, you know, you've tried to commit suicide. So they, they find out, because I admit that I've like smoked weed a couple times and they're like, oh well, she's just a drug addict.

Speaker 3: 12:50

So I get labeled a drug addict instead of like diving into like let's look at her past and you know maybe what she's going gone through and maybe some therapy and stuff which I had gone through, some counseling when they had put me on the antidepressants and it really didn't help at all. Um, because I believe so much of what I went through was spiritual. I believe in like holistically right, like we have to approach things holistically. It's it's not just always spiritual, it's not just physical, it's not just psychological, like it's often all of the things combined and um. So, but for me I think a lot of that was spiritual. And so they send me down to this rehab facility and I'm in this rehab like on suicide watch and I was down there for many months like inpatient.

Speaker 3: 13:37

And what did I do? Well, I met all these older kids who were in rehab and I learned everything there was about like harder drugs, and so I got out of rehab and very quickly, just, I switched schools. I went to 13 different schools growing up. So I'm very used to moving, very used to change, and so I switched schools and then just started hanging out with kind of like this hippie crowd and we were going to festivals and doing lots of psychedelics, dropping acid all the time, and then, by 16, I was totally hooked on cocaine and I was sleeping with my mother's 30, I think he was like 32-year-old co co-worker who lived across the street from us and he was my Coke dealer, and so it was just really crazy wild times. And when I was 17, I ended up getting pregnant not by him, but I was being very promiscuous and I had this other boyfriend, who was older I think he was 20. And I ended up getting pregnant.

Speaker 3: 14:46

Now I ended up having an abortion, which was a very difficult decision, and since being saved, I've gone through a massive, massive journey of inner healing with that, and even to the point where, like Jesus, I had this whole deliverance, where Jesus, like, battled this demon for my baby and took my baby to heaven and he showed me, like he took me to heaven and showed me my little girl, and it was a really beautiful experience.

Speaker 3: 15:13

But because I carried that guilt and trauma, as most people do after, you know, having an abortion, and so I had this abortion, though, because you know, part of my beliefs were in reincarnation and you have to understand through all of this, all of it that I've been talking about. My mom is taking me to psychics. We're getting tarot card readings, angel card readings. We're going to a store called New Age people and getting all kinds of like crystals and, um, you know, I was teaching my friends at school how to read their horror, like we would read our horoscopes in the newspaper. Uh, that's when people still read newspapers and horoscopes were in them and uh so, and then I was teaching them about astrology, and so that's all the stuff that was all intertwined within this. That's why I say it was all so spiritual.

Speaker 1: 16:07

Oh my gosh, I have to back it up a little bit. The the, the guy that you met at the pizzeria did. Did you ever report him?

Speaker 3: 16:20

Oh, no, no, definitely not. No, that never even entered my mind. I mean that never, yeah.

Speaker 1: 16:28

You just held like it was held internally. I just, I just was curious if you had that inclination to do that.

Speaker 3: 16:36

No, no, not at all. Not at all. No, definitely just held that in With nobody. Yeah, I ended up telling my mom like I did end up like confessing to her a few weeks later. I was like really upset about it and told, like called her one night and just told her on the phone she was devastated. But, um, yeah, no, outside of that, didn't tell anybody.

Speaker 1: 17:00

Okay, I just had to back it up for a second. I'm like I don't want to miss that part.

Speaker 3: 17:09

So I'll let you keep going. No, you're good and that's. And that's what happens too, right, like that's what's so prevalent. I mean this one in three like right, one in three women are sexually abused, sexually assaulted and and very few of it is reported like hardly any of it's actually reported. And so, especially when you're young and you don't know what the consequences are and you feel ashamed, and I think there's, there's always I mean, I was raped again when I was older and there's always a question of like, well, I put myself in that situation and there's a lot, I think, of self-shaming and, yeah, just blaming, self-blaming as well for those things, and so I think that's why a lot, of, a lot of people don't speak up. Yeah, so Sorry, what was that?

Speaker 1: 18:02

I was just saying it's such a heavy load to carry. It is All of the anger, I'm sure All the things right.

Speaker 3: 18:13

Yeah, absolutely yeah, it's heavy. It's heavy for sure. Thank God for Jesus. So let's see. So, yeah, so I had had the abortion because I believed in reincarnation and that my, my baby, was just going to come back to me when I was older, when I was ready to have her. And, um, obviously now I know that to not be true, but at the time that's what I thought. And so then I I mean I did graduate high school, by the grace of God. I was working, I mean in the midst of all this.

Speaker 3: 18:46

I had a job. I mean I worked since I was 14 years old, always had some sort of job and, you know, was responsible as much as I could be, and so I mean to go to all these festivals, buy drugs, all this stuff I had to be making money for that, and so it's kind of just wild, looking back, I don't even know how any of it honestly makes sense. But but then when I was 18 and I was living with my brother at the time, we had gotten an apartment while I was still in high school actually, I moved out before I graduated and was living with him and we were, we were selling weed and you know, just smoking all the time, and, gosh, had our apartment got broken into or how you know, we were held up at gunpoint, tied up, even tied up and held at gunpoint for drugs and stuff in our house. So all kinds of crazy stuff happened. And then my mom called me up one day and she's like I took this meditation course and it absolutely changed my life. You need to take this class, I will pay for it for you. And so this was in the 90s, like late 90s, and so it was $300. So $300 for a lot of people is a lot now, and back then it was definitely a lot, definitely a lot.

Speaker 3: 20:10

So I ended up going and taking this course and when I walked into this room there were these two teachers. They were wearing all white and I just thought they were angels. I was just like, wow, what's going on in here? This is amazing. And I just wanted peace, right, like all I wanted was just some peace in my life.

Speaker 3: 20:25

And so I learned this meditation technique and then over that weekend, actually, what started to happen through the meditating is that my vision life started to kick in. So I had said, since I was young, I could see into the spirit realm. So even when I would get high, right, and I would be on all these psychedelics, acid and mushrooms and stuff I would I would just see the demonic, just, oh my gosh, you know, just so, so, so intensely. I don't know why I would continue to do the drugs, because it was just, it was really demonic most of the time. Um, but I think it's also because I just never wanted to be in my body, like the goal of my whole life was just to not exist, to not be here and just to escape. And so I learned basically every form of escapism that there is, and I always just learned how to disassociate, and so I could really leave my body at will. And when I learned this meditation, that helped that, that increased that like a hundredfold, and so I was like, oh, I love this. And so I started having these visions that I was going to become one of these teachers and that I was going to move to North Carolina where this whole encampment was and all this. And, of course, the teachers, they were like, oh yeah, they were just completely verifying that and that they could see that too. And that's because at the time I didn't know I was going to be getting myself into a cult.

Speaker 3: 21:58

And so I leave that weekend workshop, though, and something interesting happened. I left on that last day and I mean, we went through puja ceremonies. You know, they were speaking in Sanskrit, chanting in Sanskrit, doing all these like Hindu ceremonies, and left that. And I actually made this a vow. I can still see it. I don't have many memories of my childhood or those days, but I vividly remember sitting in my car and making this vow that I was never going to touch another drug again.

Speaker 3: 22:29

And so I got myself very quickly into Narcotics Anonymous and we trade one addiction for another. Basically that's what most people do. If you ever go to Narcotics Anonymous, alcoholics Anonymous, most people are smoking right, most people are. There's like something else going on and I just, of course, I went in and broke all the rules and just started sleeping with people because I had a sex addiction, and so I traded one addiction for another, but I did manage to stay off the drugs for 17 years. That was a massive feat, but eight of those years I ended up joining the Ashaya's Ascension, which was the meditation cult that I was in.

Speaker 3: 23:14

So I moved out to North Carolina. I was still only 18 years old when I did that, it was right before my 19th birthday, and I, you know, I started working on this property in exchange for my like, because it was like a large sum of money, and so I would do this work, exchange kind of thing, and we were meditating and there was a large community of people from all over the world moving up to Canada, in British Columbia, where there was another group that kind of formed it was similar but different people and so moved up there, lived up in Canada for five years. I went through my teacher training. I just learned all kinds of different techniques from different teachers there, you know, I learned how to do Reiki, I learned about k Kundalini energy, I was, you know, getting into tantric sex, just all kinds of stuff. And so then what else was going on? Yeah, so I was within that community again for eight years total. I took vows to a teacher. I wore only white during that time. For eight years I went by a Sanskrit name, I went by Sri Lakshmi, which was given to me by my teachers, and I went all over Canada actually setting up and planting kind of like church planting. I would plant meditation centers in different provinces. I would plant meditation centers in different provinces. So I finally things started to click.

Speaker 3: 24:55

For me that things were a little bit wonky within the cult when my teachers started to now what I would call like a form of trafficking, where they would place me into various relationships and they would be like, okay, they would make it sound really innocent, like, oh, you know, hey, ha ha ha. Like who do you, who do you want to be with now? And I'm like what are you talking about? So they would put me into relationships. And then just all of a sudden I was just with so-and-so and we're together now and they would send me out to plant a church with this person. But then the next time that it happened, or the time that it really began to feel very off, was when this guy showed up. He was from Mexico and my teachers were just like, hey, we've booked you this hotel room in town tonight. And we, yeah, you're going to go and you're, you're spending the night. And I'm like, excuse me, like it was just really off. And so, uh, that happened. And after that I was like I just was really horrified. And then I was just told I was going to be with him.

Speaker 3: 25:59

We moved down to San Diego in California to plant a center down there, and it was during my time there that I just really started to wake up to just the control, the psychological, spiritual, mental abuse that we were under. Like the control was just beyond, beyond, beyond. And so once I began to wake up to that it was so I had no grid for just anything and I'd been really cut off. Like we were encouraged to not not stay in touch with our family very much. We were encouraged not have any really access to the outside world. So we were very insulated and I was kind of getting this little taste of the world though once we moved to San Diego. So I ended up leaving, I ended up escaping. I call it because I asked to leave and I was told no, and so I had to just make that decision and move back to Indiana and yeah, so what?

Speaker 1: 27:01

questions like in you trying to leave? Did they like threaten you or anything?

Speaker 3: 27:06

No, because there was never. Like it was never really in that way, because there was never any, like they wouldn't ever do anything that would make you feel like something was off, Right, so, and this was a meditation community, so, um, but they just told me like no, you, you can't do that, and that was it. I mean, that was it. It's like they were your teachers, and so what they said went, and you know, I've given my life to them, I've taken multiple sets of vows, right, so like that's a very, very, very strong tie in the spirit, and so there's really wasn't okay. They said no, but I'm like, no, very strong tie in the spirit and, and so there's really wasn't okay. They said no, but I'm like, no, I feel like I really have to go.

Speaker 3: 27:53

One of the teachers that was living with us actually tried to commit suicide and and so that's what kind of woke me up. I was like, wait, that person was supposed to be one of the enlightened ones, and our teachers weren't even living with us at the time, like they were still in British Columbia. So this is even from and they're in another country, and they're telling me no, and I was like afraid of them, and so, um, so then I finally got out of that. So, um, moving on, I don't want to go go so much more into detail, just because there's so much more to tell and we'll be here all day. This is all just the tip of the iceberg, but I have to just say there is a there is a salvation and redemption story in here.

Speaker 3: 28:37

So don't worry.

Speaker 1: 28:39

I mean, I appreciate you sharing what you're led to share because, again, I know that this is a part, this is a part of your life and your story, and I mean truly like beauty from ashes, right.

Speaker 3: 28:51

Amen, yeah, absolutely, and it really is the ultimate redemption story. So I end up back in Indiana I'm 26 now and I have been kind of let out of like a lion let out of the cage, and I don't do the drugs, but I definitely started drinking, going out to the clubs, I took some salsa dancing classes with my mom and that kind of got me into the club scene. And then, very quickly, it was within like a year of leaving the cult that I ended up getting pregnant with my now daughter, who is 16. That's crazy to think that was only 16 years ago. But I, yeah, I got out of that. I was just being wild got pregnant, ended up ended up marrying her dad and I didn't really want to, but I it just felt like I was supposed to and I just took going back to your question from earlier about like the 21-year-old guy and did I say anything about that? No, I stuffed that down. And I did the same thing with the Ashayas. I just left and I didn't really talk about it and I just stuffed all this, all of it.

Speaker 3: 30:04

And so eight years of just total trauma. I had never dealt with anything from my childhood, you know, even though I was meditating and teaching weekend workshops and doing all this stuff. It was just masking. It was masking that inner healing that was needed. It was masking that healing that, honestly, only can come from Jesus, it only can. I have tried every single thing out there and only Jesus can fill that like hole, right, that hole and that void. So without him, I just I just continued to be so lost and even though, even when we would do our ceremonies, we would even have a picture of Jesus, like on our altar, but it was like Christ consciousness and it was just this complete false, like false deity, right.

Speaker 3: 30:50

So so ended up marrying, marrying that my ex-husband. He was from El Salvador, so we moved down to El Salvador because he didn't have papers at the time. So we moved down there and I was there for a little over a year with my daughter she was about a year old at the time. I was there for a little over a year with my daughter she was about a year old at the time and we continued just in, like, I mean, we went to the jungles of Guatemala to this witch doctor who was like trying to heal my daughter of some ailments that she had, and so, even though I wanted nothing to do with spirituality anymore at this point, like I couldn't cut myself off from it, like the devil just followed me everywhere that I went. He just had a grip on me, he just had a complete hold, this stronghold over my life.

Speaker 3: 31:32

And so, after moving back from there, total, I spent about six years, you know kind of fighting the the immigration system and getting him his visa, and then he had two children in El Salvador that I got their visas as well, and so moving back to the States, he and I, though it was once you're in an abusive relationship, but once you've experienced abuse, it just continues until you know how to break that cycle, until you're healed. And so he was an alcoholic, very verbally abusive, emotionally abusive, and so I just was at a point where I couldn't take it anymore. So we were together just over six, seven years, and I had been saving up money to leave him and wasn't able to because he also had control over the finances and bank accounts and, you know, everything was in his name. So one day, with $50 in my you know pocket, I just left with my daughter when she was five years old, and went and stayed with a friend and once I left and started going through that divorce which was like crazy, crazy, crazy messy I hit rock bottom.

Speaker 3: 32:43

If you think I haven't hit rock bottom yet like that was definitely a rock bottom experience. I mean to the point where my anxiety was through the roof and I mean I could barely get off the floor, you know just hysterical all the time. But I had started going to this gym and kind of like getting in shape for the first time in my life and I would say that's where I started to actually build some confidence. I started going to this CrossFit gym and because I'd always been involved in community in one way or another, this CrossFit it was a community that I was involved in and so they really helped to kind of like build me up. It actually encouraged me to, you know, get divorced and kind of really helped me through that emotionally and just physically getting fit. Like it made me feel better about myself. And there was this whole empowerment thing going on and self-empowerment and I was getting involved in like MLMs, like multi-level marketing things and going to these conferences and kind of like getting real built up and feeling good about myself.

Speaker 1: 33:46

You're Getting cheerleadered up.

Speaker 3: 33:49

Yes, exactly, but you know it was what I needed at the time, Like it truly was what I needed at the time. And so, but then somebody that I had met within that CrossFit community, there was this guy that I kind of started seeing, really just started sleeping with, and then in my vulnerability he actually introduced me to the next like stage of horrendous things going on in my life. And so before I go further, let me just remind you story because it gets even darker. So I was introduced by this guy into basically these underground kind of secret societies and it's the world of BDSM, which is bondage, domination, sadomasochism, and, if you know at all anything about that, there was actually a book that came out years ago as well, while I was still married, by EL James, and she kind of brought this to the public eye a little bit at that time. You know, I don't know how long you've actually been a Christian, Kristen but, or anybody else listening, but if you're part of the world, you probably heard of Fifty Shades of Grey, and so that was kind of like the very mild, mild, mild kind of edge of things. But that's a little bit like the kink world, BDSM world. So essentially I got involved in.

Speaker 3: 35:26

They were kind of like secret sex societies, and I started going to these clubs. The first one I went to was out in Atlanta, and it was. I was out there for a work, training actually, and while I was there I went to this club and I learned all about rope bondage and shibari rope bondage this ancient art and went to this kind of sex fetish club and from there I got really addicted to this. And what basically goes on in BDSM is you, you become like you have this like alter ego and you really kind of just become somebody else.

Speaker 3: 36:05

And it's very, very intense forms of torture and so it's people that find pleasure. So a masochist is somebody who enjoys being hurt, and then a sadist is somebody who enjoys like they find pleasure out of inflicting abuse, pleasure out of inflicting abuse, inflicting pain and torture. So in this, in this, you know. So there's these groups all over their dungeons. I mean this can range anywhere from just your average Joe, average normal day person, to you know politicians, to all over the place, and so I was Very cool information to me.

Speaker 1: 36:48

I'm like learning a lot here.

Speaker 3: 36:50

Is that new yeah?

Speaker 1: 36:53

I feel like I've been kind of shielded. I got saved when I was 25 from addiction, but I didn't fall into these places, so I'm keep going.

Speaker 3: 37:05

Yeah, so there's these worlds that people just don't even know exist, right, and, and so that's why I've just always known, and I've always been very open with my story. God's just given me that grace, um, to be able to just continually tell this cause. It's, it's not easy, right, but he's just, he's given me a grace for it, um, because I, I just I feel that I'm, you know, I'm called to expose what is out there and we have to just shine, shine the light on the dark. That's what it is. It's not, it's not glorifying it, it's going look like this is what's out there and this is what people are coming out of. And and that's why, even in the church, we have to, we have to be able to come alongside people, we have to empathize with them, we have to know where they've come from, and so when one person, right, speaks up and shares their story, other people go wow, me too, right, and and then they're able to to feel like they have a voice and that they can also talk about these things.

Speaker 3: 38:02

So I was basically getting beaten and tortured, I mean black, bloody, blue, and you know, all the time on a regular basis, and it was. I actually felt like it was this sense of empowerment there for me. I gained power in it. Obviously, that was like the devil, it's the most evil thing that you can imagine. Even looking back now, I remember being in those clubs and and I was what you call a fetish performance artist, and so I would be featured in clubs and then people would come just to witness and watch me being tortured, and so it's just, it's just wild. But looking back at that, even as I would look out, or as I look now in the spirit, like all I see are just demons, like there's no people's faces, it's just all demons. And so I mean we just know who's controlling all of that. But again, it was another way where I could escape, and so through that, the way that you deal with it is that you disassociate, and so I could completely just leave my body, leave my just completely leave at will, and so that's how you're able to endure, and so that's how even children, that's how women, that's how anybody who has been through abuse and torture or trafficking, and you go oh my gosh, how did they survive? It's because there's something actually in your brain that shuts off and you kind of you flip a switch and most prostitutes will even tell you this that there is, there's just a switch that's flipped and you just flip the switch and you're not there anymore. You're not there, and so that's how you do it.

Speaker 3: 39:52

So when I was in this community, I was also part of this online community and it's basically like Facebook for the fetish, facebook for kinky people. And so I was like I would post all my pictures I mean, I would like glorify having bruises all over my body, like they were like badges of honor, and I, you know. And then I, all these people would follow you and they're seeing your pictures and I started writing. I've, you know, I've been a writer for a very long time, and so I was writing and just doing all this poetry and prose and just trying to get it out all out in some way, all my pain, I mean just get out all the pain. And so then a friend said to me through that community well, you know, and this is what happens to a lot of young girls now and just a lot of women in general, is like you know, you're, you're already doing this stuff, you're already being promiscuous and sleeping around you. You know, there's this website that you can go to and get paid for that, and so that was just a very easy, kind of natural transition for me.

Speaker 3: 40:59

I had actually when I first had gotten divorced too, because this is now maybe two years after my divorce, but when I first had gotten divorced I needed money Before I started dating that guy. I desperately needed money and I responded to a Craigslist ad and that was the first time that I'd ever sold myself, and so I responded to this ad. I went to this very I mean this gated community about 45 minutes from me, and middle of the night, walked into this house just pure, I mean just pitch black community about 45 minutes from me, and middle of the night, walked into this house, just pure, I mean just pitch black. And again, the grace of God has just always been on my life because I should totally not be here a million times over and I could have been killed that night, I could have been trafficked that night, but I did, you know, did what I was there for, left about 30 minutes later. You know, this guy gets up, just throws the money on the dresser and I left. But it was.

Speaker 3: 41:51

It was not like. It was like a horrible experience, and so I didn't want to do that. I didn't end up doing it again until my friend told me about this website and at this point I also had a regular job Like this was my complete double life had a regular job. Like this was my complete double life. I also was taking my daughter right to her, like cheerleading things, and I was. I was like a total um, like working during the day, but I was getting to the point where I was like breaking down and crying at work and I was having so much anxiety so that's when I started smoking weed again.

Speaker 3: 42:26

I even started going to a therapist during that time, and so that's kind of how I got through it as well, because she knew what I was doing and this woman was actually a Christian even, which I couldn't really tell. I didn't know that at the time. But she would send me home with like little scriptures, but I had no grid for the Bible or scriptures and I would just roll my eyes and like throw them away. Um, so so God was always kind of like trying to insert himself, but I just was. The veil was so thick that I couldn't even. I couldn't even see. I couldn't see anything. Uh.

Speaker 3: 43:02

So then I, yeah, got on this website and I started, um, I started selling myself and and I thought, oh well, you know, if he's just a sugar daddy, I'm just a sugar baby, and that's how people kind of pretty it up, that you're not actually engaging in prostitution. We like call it all these different names now, um, but that's just straight up what it is. And you know, and it's it's an exchange of your body for money. And during that, I was also building up this big new age coaching career. So I was feeling very, very empowered by all of this. Like, especially once I got into selling myself, I was very empowered, thinking that I had the power, I had the control, um, even though I was a hot mess afterwards Every single time I was a hot mess, but, yeah, I thought I had this power. So I was going to become this big new age coach, and so I continued to do that until I saved up the money to take all these certifications. You know, I was traveling all over and I've always traveled all over. It's my passion, my number one passion in life, other than Jesus, is to travel.

Speaker 3: 44:12

So then, finally, I wrote my first book. Actually, it was in 2019. I did this. Tell all. I met this woman. She was coming to my like goddess circles because I was leading these, these like goddess movement dance women's dance circles, and I was meeting women. I was very well known in my city for like these classes that I taught, and this woman she's like I'm a book or a book coach, and so she helped me with writing this, this first book, where I actually put out all those writings that I had been doing on the fetish website. All of those went into there and it was after my tell-all that I kind of I thought it was going to be empowering, but I really wanted to crawl under a rock and hide and at that point somebody called me up. It was like the day that I published it that it went live.

Speaker 3: 45:08

This man called me up and he was living in the UK, in London, and I knew this man back from when I first had joined the cult. We met on my 19th birthday and we were in a relationship for a period of time. He introduced me to blood magic and the tantric sex and a lot of different things, and he was 30 years older than me, so I was 19. He was 49. And throughout the years, even after we split up, which was on my part I fell in love with this younger man which a psychic had told me that I was going to meet, and sure enough I did. That's a whole nother wild story, but this man, over this period of 20 years we just always stayed in contact, like in some form, and it wasn't all the time, like a couple years would go by and then I would hear from him, and so this was pretty consistent over those 20 years. And so when he called me up and he's like, hey, you know, do you want to come over to London? He said do you want to come for Yuletide? And I didn't end up going there for Christmas, but the following year I did.

Speaker 3: 46:18

So this relationship started like kind of sparked between us again and he really was like one of my first spiritual teachers and so his kind of goal in life was really to save me, like to be my savior. He knew how broken I was and I really thought he was going to help me and I kind of put all of my trust, I put all of my eggs into like his basket really, and when I ended up going over to London he had been like to visit him, he had already been introducing me all of a sudden to this world that I didn't know about, even though I was engaged in all this demonic activity. I didn't really know that this world of demons existed, because that's not what I was told, that's not what I was taught. It was still all love and light, and so it just doesn't. None of it makes sense whatsoever. But if it doesn't make sense to me, I know it won't make sense to you.

Speaker 1: 47:15

So just don't ask, I don't know like I'm just like blown away that you've walked through all of this.

Speaker 3: 47:30

Yeah, it's pretty mind boggling. Every time I tell it I'm like, wow, did I actually go through all that?

Speaker 1: 47:39

So now you're in the UK. What's what's happening in the UK?

Speaker 3: 47:43

Yeah. So then I go over there and he's, like you know, trying to do like demonic deliverance and but just from this place of like he's full of demons, trying to like expel demons out of me, and we I'm there on vacay, I'm like okay, like I've come over here and I'm just like I'm here to have fun and do whatever. And it was very serious, though, like it just it just became like him in that kind of like teacher role again. And what I didn't know is that behind the scenes he was like drinking, like he was drinking heavily and doing whatever drugs. I don't know what he was even on, I know. I don't know if it was just, I think it was just hash and weed, but it was definitely enough to like put him off and put him in different states.

Speaker 3: 48:31

And so we end up like I, you know, renting a car and traveling all over because I'm on vacay, I want to see England. And so we end up in this little tiny town in England and if you've ever been to England, you'll know these towns are like tiny and they're very quiet, very, very, very quiet English town. And we're staying in this hotel and we had stopped and I got like a bottle of I think it was like a bottle of champagne. I did not know that he had gotten a bunch more alcohol. So he ends up getting extremely drunk and and just physically assaults me, like completely physically assaults me. Now I had left the prostitution at this point, I had left the BDSM community, I had gotten out of all of that, and so this was definitely not something that I was like asking for, not something that I wanted. This was not welcome, and so it was so bad I was started screaming. So the manager of the hotel like the B&B or whatever comes and then the police are called, social services comes in the middle of the night, takes pictures of me with bruises all over my body I had a handprint on my neck. And the next day I go to the jail and I'm like trying to bail him out of jail and they're all looking at me like what is completely wrong with you, like what the heck? And then I end up going back to London. I like forgive him, right, he's completely blaming it all on me, that it was me and I was kind of. I was being so psychologically abused, that it was. I just couldn't understand. Like probably was me right? Like I'm crazy, I'm a psycho and I really believe those things about myself. Like I'm just, I'm just a nutcase and so it probably was my fault and so I'm like asking for forgiveness.

Speaker 3: 50:34

And this was during 2020. This was in March of 2020. So, if you can remember back, if anybody remembers what was kind of going on wild in the world in March 2020, the whole, you know, pandemic was announced while I was over there. So we don't know what's going on and we came up with this whole plan of like, oh my gosh, you know, we're not going to be involved in this, we're just going to go buy some land and go off grid and like, not be a part of this world. So I came back to the States.

Speaker 3: 51:11

After about three weeks there, I came back to the States and, with this whole plan in my mind, I ended up selling like everything that I owned. I, you know, got out of my apartment and I left my daughter with her dad, who was not the greatest, and I mean it's just crazy that I, that I even did that, but I ended up going back to London to live with him, not knowing that then all these lockdowns were going to happen and that I wasn't going to be able to go back and forth like I thought I was, and so I ended up being there for nearly two years and my daughter was still here in the States and so I was over there in this little shoebox apartment I call it just under the most like horrendous, just psychological, spiritual, physical abuse that you could imagine. I'm still going through my healing from that part of my journey. But while I was there, something miraculous also happened Finally, finally, finally, we get to this point, we're finally there. You guys can take a deep breath where, even though I was at this point where it was the worst, where I would say I I believe without a doubt that Satan knew the timeline, like he knew the timeline of when Jesus was coming for me, and he waged, and like those two years he waged like a full out war, like it was a war for me and in the end Jesus won, but it was not without a fight. And so I was at the point where I was like banging my head against the wall, I was clawing at my head, I was just I. The voices were so intense. Those voices like that suicidal spirit was always on me my entire life at different points and that deep, deep, deep depression and anxiety, and I mean I'm talking can't leave the house type of depression and anxiety for months, and at this point it was, it was the worst, and I, you know, I was taking knives and scissors to my wrists and cutting myself doing these things and then something just happened.

Speaker 3: 53:26

Now, this man that I was with, he, you know, he was in cults, he had his own cults, he was a huge occultist. We were, you know, studying all kinds of occultism, demonology, all these things. But he also, from the time he was born, had this relationship with the Bible and with God, and so he knew scripture front to back, and so does the devil. And so he, one night, I mean you have to imagine, I mean I was 40 at the time, so he was 30 years older than me, he was in his 70s, and he was going through some excruciating like pain, some back pain, couldn't get off the floor, we were smoking weed just constantly, all through that lockdown. We started doing DMT, doing really high doses of mushrooms, like I mean, oh my gosh, completely losing our minds and having all these you know, spiritual, quote, unquote experiences which, again, we're just all demonic.

Speaker 3: 54:32

But he cries out to Jesus one night and I didn't know he had done this. I knew afterwards but he was like you know, if you exist, then heal me, like you have to heal me, because he could barely even walk. And the next morning he was able to get up off the floor. And so he gets up off the floor and he just starts going on this journey. Basically, he goes on this journey with Jesus and starts going to church and getting rid of all his occult stuff and I wanted absolutely nothing to do with it. And then finally, finally, finally, one night I end up, I'm able to go to church. I tried to go in the morning but I started manifesting.

Speaker 3: 55:10

And so that evening, I mean, I got to church and it was this little tiny Baptist church in East London, and that night the pastor was preaching from Deuteronomy 18, 9 through 12, and it's occult practices 18, 9 through 12, and it's occult practices. And so he goes through the scripture and reads everything about all these different occult practices and the NIV version says that if you practice these things, that you are detestable to the Lord, your God. Now, in this moment, I don't know if I believe in a God. I don't know Jesus, I don't know anything about the Bible. My dad, who had been, you know, saved a few years earlier, had sent me a Bible to London the year before, a year before, and I stuck it up on a shelf, didn't even open it, you know, it just was collecting dust, wanted nothing to do with it.

Speaker 3: 56:03

But in that moment, when I heard that all these things I had ever done like if I did those things I was detestable to the Lord, like all of a sudden there was this light and this tunnel of light went between the pastor and I and the entire world disappeared and my whole life flashed before my eyes and I had this realization and it was truly the fear of the Lord that came upon me and I knew that every single thing that I had ever done was wrong, like everything. And so I am just sobbing hysterically. I mean, I was a mess. I was just sobbing, sobbing, sobbing, and that was my come to Jesus moment. And and you know, the pastor comes up to me afterwards and asked if I wanted to have. He doesn't know anything about me, but I'm clearly having a moment Right, and it's pretty funny how many people get actually get saved in Baptist churches.

Speaker 3: 57:03

There's something about it. So many people get saved in Baptist churches. Um, there's something about it. So many people get saved in Baptist churches, so so, even though I wouldn't go to one now because I'm fully, fully walking in the gifts of the spirit, um, I have so much love for the Baptist church at the same time. So so, those guys, I ended up being able to like share my testimony the next day with the pastor, one of the pastors and his wife, and they just looked at me like I was a complete nut job, hearing about everything I'd been involved in, and but I started there, suggested I, you know, do their prayer calls, and I started going to church, and I went home, really, and just opened up my Bible and started repenting. I didn't know the word repentance, I didn't know anything about salvation. Nobody did a salvation prayer with me. It was just an unction of the Holy Spirit that had come upon me, that I just I knew everything was wrong and I had to start asking the Lord for forgiveness, and so I went through that journey, and things like continue to not be great in the relationship, though.

Speaker 3: 58:07

Like a month later, I was removed from our apartment by the police because my partner called the police on me because he was afraid of what he was going to do to me and I had to hide out in a neighbor's apartment for five days and while she chain smoked within the apartment and had a cat I was allergic to and just more messes. But you know, I had God Like I finally had like some sort of foundation and hope and I just put all of my hope in him. And then I ended up at this conference with my partner had been like looking at other churches too, and we ended up at this conference with my partner had been like looking at other churches too. And we ended up at this conference that I walked in complete opposite of the Baptists and it was about 100 to 150 Nigerians praying in tongues, and so, yeah, it was like so there was this Nigerian apostolic church and they were having this conference, and so I was equally horrified and also couldn't leave and I was so drawn to it and so very quickly I kind of left the Baptist church and got involved with these apostolic Nigerians and got on prayer calls with them for, like I mean three nights or three hours from 11 pm till 2 am, like every single night was doing prayer call and Bible study and going deep, deep, deep into the word of God and getting like built up in the spirit, and it was through my journey with them that I then got baptized in the Holy Spirit. Through watching a Derek Prince video on YouTube, I ended up getting filled with the Spirit, began praying in tongues, and that was really when everything changed.

Speaker 3: 59:56

Once I got filled with the Spirit, that was the game changer, and so I began like the lockdowns were lifting in London and I began getting to know the Holy Spirit, and I was also working for a UK travel blog part time at the time, so I would go out on kind of like my assignments in these places I was traveling to, to kind of get all my information for my, for my writings and my research, and I would just ask Holy Spirit, I would just be completely led by him. So, four months later, though, I was saved, but I was definitely not completely safe, like set free. I was definitely still just very much oppressed and stuck Like I could not get out of this relationship, like I kept going back. I kept going back Like the stronghold just would not lift and um, and I was just so. You know, it's like that man. He just he just wanted to be my savior. I felt he was my savior and it just wouldn't. It wouldn't let go until four months later. So that was actually like to give you guys a timeline. That was October 2021. Like it was not that long ago. So it was just over three years ago that I was saved and then, four months later, it's coming up February 26th 2022.

Speaker 3: 1:01:17

I went to this conference in Northampton, just a couple hours north of London, and at this conference, I ended up going by myself because my partner had this prophetic dream that he had lost me, which ended up being a very prophetic dream. I didn't know about it till later and at this, like on the way to the conference, I was praying to the Lord and I was like, look, I want to be water baptized and I'm not going to ask for it. I was kind of like testing him. I wanted to really see, like what you know, how powerful he was and like who's this, who's, who's this God about? Right, I was getting to know the Holy Spirit, but I didn't really really really know God and and I was going through so much with coming out of the new age and there was so much. I mean, my entire foundation of 40 years was rocked, it was shaken, it was just like ash on the ground and so I'm being completely rebuilt like body, mind, spirit, soul. So I was kind of testing him and I was like, okay, I want to be water baptized If you make this happen. So we get there, and at lunch, or I get there, me and Holy Spirit, and at lunch the pastor comes up to me and he's like a little birdie, tells me that you haven't been baptized, and I was like nope, and so he's like, okay, it's in an hour, we're doing it at lunch.

Speaker 3: 1:02:40

So I had taken clothes, of course, and these people had even paid for like my hotel, like my room, stay and everything that weekend. And I remember the only person that I had called that weekend to like tell was my dad. Like I was just so like my dad and I. You know, we were very estranged like most of my life. We didn't talk for seven years when I was going through all my teenage stuff, and then we were just we would maybe see her talk one time a year my whole life.

Speaker 3: 1:03:09

And when I got saved, he was like the person. He was the person. He would send me scripture every day, he would send me worship songs every day, like it was the most beautiful thing that the Lord did in that relationship. So I called and I was like I'm going to get baptized today. So I go down, there's a really just oh my gosh, crazy sad YouTube video of me where we had to just testify for 60 seconds and I'm just, I'm sobbing once again and I just say who I am and what I've been through. And you know that I just want to give my life fully to Christ and I have actually since written a book and the book is called Mary Magdalene in the mirror freedom from demonic oppression. And the reason that it's called that the Lord gave me that title because that moment that I went into that water, I went into that water and that was my Mary Magdalene moment, like where Jesus set her free in an instant from you know, I know it says seven demons, but I believe it was a lot more.

Speaker 3: 1:04:12

I believe, you know, the seven is for completion, and so it was just like he completely delivered her. And I know that he delivered me in an instant from a legion of demons, because I came up out of the water and I was dizzy, I could barely stand up and for the first time in my entire life it was silent in my head, like just this, this peace and this silence. And so I got out and I'm sitting down and I can't even get up and I'm like what has just happened? Like he's completely emptied me, completely emptied. And then the most beautiful thing happened.

Speaker 3: 1:05:01

I got up and there was this woman that I had never even seen before, just waiting in the hallway as I'm going back to my room to change, and there was also this little old man sitting in the front and he was like honey, don't you want to get up and go change? It's cold, you know, and I'm like I can't even function. And so, when I finally do, this woman was waiting, this big black woman. She was waiting in the hallway and she just was like an angel woman. She was waiting in the hallway and she just was like an angel. I really thought she was an angel and she, I just slump into her arms and her arms are open wide and I just slump and I cry and I cry and I sob and she just kept whispering like you have the power now. You have the power now. And it was power of the Holy Spirit. Like none of that, none of that false power that I thought I had before. Right, like none of that. Yeah, the enemy's power like the devil's power. Now it was the power, like the real power of the Holy Spirit. So, once I had that massive release, I go up to my room, I come back down and then the Lord you know, he does not leave us empty, he does not take away without giving back right. So he filled me, filled me, filled me with the oil of joy. Like this joy and this light was just like emanating off of me. I mean everybody there was 50 people there and like nobody could leave me alone. Like everybody just kept coming up to me because they didn't know me, right, nobody even knew that I had just had this radical deliverance. Like that, it wasn't a thing. Like it just kept coming up to me because they didn't know me, right, nobody even knew that I had just had this radical deliverance like that. It wasn't a thing Like it. Just I just was there and I went under the water and I got baptized and like nobody knew, and there was no manifestation. That's what I think is so beautiful. It's not like I had some big, huge demonic deliverance, that I was manifesting and all this. It was just really gentle and beautiful.

Speaker 3: 1:06:49

So from there I ended up going back to, you know, london. I took a little detour on the way back because I just did not want to go. I wanted to stay in my bliss bubble, my joy bubble, and when I went back I could feel it. I could feel all the activity, just bad, demonic activity in the apartment now, and I'm like Lord, I can't do this Right. And so I was there three days, three days, and on the third day I wake up in the morning and I'm hearing just screaming, screaming and just nasty, vile stuff coming from the other room and I thought to myself I will never, ever, ever again put up with this, ever from anybody.

Speaker 3: 1:07:33

And it was 6 am. I remember it was 6 am and in that moment the booming voice of God just like overtook the room and he said pack your bags and put them in the car. And he just kept repeating pack your bags and put them in the car. And I just saw, I saw how he had it all laid out and my partner it was every Thursday, it was Thursday. He goes to the bank every Thursday morning in the city and so he was going to be leaving shortly and as soon as he left, I just did it, I put everything in bags.

Speaker 3: 1:08:06

I had done this many times trying to leave, but now I had I, now I was delivered, now I was set free, now I was ready. And um, and I literally saw Mary Magdalene in the mirror, Like I did. That's why the book is called that. I looked in the mirror and I was terrified. I was terrified of him and what he would do, but I was so joyful and happy at the same time. And that's why, like, nobody can ever steal the joy of the Lord, and joy is not an emotion. It is not an emotion. So you can be equally grieving and be, you know, have the joy of the Lord at the same time.

Speaker 3: 1:08:43

And so I put those bags in the car. I told one of my neighbors what I was doing, whom they all knew what was going on, because they could all hear the screaming going on constantly and the police coming and everything. And we lived in like this care home. We were living in this big yeah on like the third floor. It was crazy. And so I put my bags in the car and I'm like, oh my gosh, now what? Like? Those are the only instructions you gave me.

Speaker 3: 1:09:08

So then a miracle happened. This woman called me up and she's like Kelsey, we've got to get you out of there. And I'm like, how do you know that? And she's like, because you messaged me last night. And I'm like what are you talking about? And I don't have any recollection of that. I don't like that was so God, like that was the Holy Spirit, because I had apparently and there's not even a record of it, but I had apparently like sent her a message and just said I need help, I need to get out of here. So she put me up into an Airbnb. I ended up being in like seven Airbnbs in 11 days because the devil was seriously hot on me, hot on my trail, and he was after me, but and so he kept making things go wrong, but I was free and it was like the best month of my entire life and I got connected with this other kind of like Ghanaian church in London and they really helped disciple me for actually about a year, even after I moved back to the States.

Speaker 3: 1:10:10

So a month later the Lord called me back to Indiana. I had to come back and, just, you know, make things right with my daughter and my family. And so I came back here and this woman that heard my story just through, like a prayer, a prayer group here in Indiana, she actually like bought my ticket and got me back here. And what's crazy even is that I had overstayed my visa there like by a long time, and so I totally should have had a ban, like from ever entering again. And when I called the embassy, there was actually no record of me ever being in their system, like none.

Speaker 3: 1:10:50

So when I say I am a new creation in Christ, like it's, it's literal in every single way, like that that old me, it just it's non-existent, non-existent. I've had friends after I came back like try to do like facial recognition, like in their phones and stuff, and like even that wouldn't even recognize me. Um, like that's how much like I've changed. And so I came back here and I was living in a hotel, just for. I lived in a hotel for two months because I didn't have anywhere to go. I had no idea how I would pay for it again. That was just the supernatural blessings of God, and and people just started sowing into my life which I didn't understand and it really freaked me out and I, you know, I thought there had to be an exchange. I'd never received money without an exchange for something, and so I had to go through just so much healing.

Speaker 3: 1:11:41

And during that time the Lord told me to write that book, mary Magdalene in the Mirror, and that I would, that he would provide everything for me. And so I wrote that, and then, a year later, wrote another book, relentless Love, just about God's overwhelming yeah, relentless love. And he also told me something else at that time. He said you will be ministering to strippers, prostitutes and women who have been sex trafficked. And so I was not thinking anything about ministry. I was just trying to literally get through the day and figure out how I was going to pay my rent or pay for this hotel, week by week. And you know I wasn't eating, it's like I was having, you know, yeah, just to get this money to even survive, and so ministry is not in my mind.

Speaker 3: 1:12:26

And sure enough, though, I mean, everything turned around, and about six months later maybe well, maybe about seven months later I end up because he kept bringing that word to remembrance and I go to this human trafficking recovery center here in Indianapolis. I saw they were having a sex trafficking 101 class, and so I went to the class just to learn more about trafficking. And, yeah, that's when I started just having a lot of revelations about my life and the Lord started just yeah, revealing so many things. I mean, you know, I had the revelation. It was prior to being saved, but it wasn't until eight years after I was in the cult that I had that I found out I was in a cult, and it wasn't until a year after actually doing strip club ministry that I found out that I had been trafficked. And so you know, you don't often know, I didn't know I was being abused all those years, right, like you don't know it when you're in it, and so, yeah, so at that class I met the woman who was leading the class, had a strip club ministry, and so she, I quickly joined her team and began going out into the strip clubs.

Speaker 3: 1:13:37

This was just like just a year after being saved, and not even a year after my deliverance, that I started going into the strip clubs and ministering. So I was on her team for about a year and then I just felt like there was more to it, like I felt like there was another level. The spirit in me was just really, really, really stirring and I just wanted to really see the manifestations of God. Like I wanted to see the healings and the salvations and the deliverance and all the stuff that I just knew in my spirit was possible. But here in Indiana, like you just don't see that much. There's not a ton of spirit-filled churches around here and people just walking in the power of God, and so I was very confused about why the Lord had me here.

Speaker 3: 1:14:23

But he got me connected with a ministry down in Florida and I went down there and I spent a weekend and I went out on their outreach and saw that there were over 60 salvations that night and it was the first time I laid hands on somebody and they were instantly healed and yeah, really, really then just got completely built up again and kind of that next level of being built up in the spirit and you know, and there during those days when I first came back, I mean I was, I was. It was like all those days that I would spend 12 to 18 hours in meditation. The Lord used that to teach me how to pray in the spirit for like long hours, and so so he uses everything, everything. So once I came back from Florida from that training, I was just on fire and I immediately filed with the state for Morning Glory Ministries and founded my own nonprofit. And then I started a team here in Indianapolis and on our first outreach we had 23 salvations and just saw so many miracle signs and wonders and the power of God.

Speaker 3: 1:15:30

And then from here the Lord actually led me out to St Louis, back to kind of where I was when I was a child, and he brought me a team out there. And so St Louis is actually where my main ministry is and I drive out there once a month it's about four and a half hours and I spend a weekend and we go into the strip clubs, into the brothels, we minister to street prostitutes there as well, go into massage parlors, sex shops, just really anywhere where women are being exploited, and so that's the ministry that he's called me into. And then he told me, you know, also, when I was living in that hotel then never stopped testifying. And so, you know, after my book came out that just opened the doors to so many things, I went down to Houston, I was invited to be on Christian Television Network in Houston and you know I've done over 50 podcasts and it's just been, it's all been God, like I've never done any of it, like it is all him, it's all by the grace of God.

Speaker 3: 1:16:31

So, yeah, so that's my story and that's where I am today. And we're actually getting ready. I'm going at the end of February, we're going global now. We're going to Amsterdam and I'm going to Amsterdam and going to be ministering in the red light district there. So, yeah, very, very exciting. So just thank you for letting me go on and on and on and just for listening and just honoring me with this time.

Speaker 1: 1:16:57

Yes, I feel like I would love to have you back on like another time with more stories, because I was actually in a coaching call a couple of days ago and I heard this word that I had to actually look it up and I feel like it's a word for you too. It's accelerant, a substance used to accelerate a process such as the spreading of fire. So there is such an acceleration happening on what you're doing, like you said, going global. You're like this, this fire, like it can't be stopped. So I'm just over here, like if you could see, like if you guys could see me, like my mouth was open. I'm kind of like I've walked through a lot as well and we all have, we all have our stories, and I'm just blown away by again. It's truly like you have been free and now you're going back to set others free. Not everybody does that.

Speaker 3: 1:17:58

Amen.

Speaker 3: 1:17:59

But, that's what he calls us to. You know, he calls us. That's why he has set us free, and I think that's what it is, like, you know, also just akin to Mary Magdalene, like, right, when he set her free, she didn't, she didn't just leave Right, she was at his feet constantly. She was like she was devoted to him. And then what did he do? Like that devotion led to him, like you know, having her proclaim the good news of the resurrection, even, and so, like, when he just shakes up your life in such a radical way, that's just how I feel, like there's nothing that I wouldn't do for him. It's like, even when I haven't had the easiest ride, even since being saved, right, like I mean, if we went deep into all the things I've been through, I mean, my God, it's been, it's been crazy, and so much I've had to walk through and, like you said, the healing and deliverance in such a short period of time, I mean it's that's why I, that's why I stated earlier, like I'm, I'm healing guys. I just want you to know I'm still healing from things, but it is, it's such a fast track and that's all Him. Like, that's nothing about me, except that I've just given Him my yes, because we do.

Speaker 3: 1:19:17

We have a choice, we always have a choice, we have free will, and so it's like are you going to give him your yes? Are we going to actually live out the book of Acts? Are we actually going to live out the gospel and do what everyone is commissioned to do, which is to go out and make disciples? Like, go out and make disciples. And so that's what we are doing, even with these girls in the industry. We're seeing girls come out, we're walking alongside them, we are meeting people right where they are, and that's also what we have to do. We have to get out of our, we have to get out of the four walls of the church and we have to go out to where the people are. Jesus wasn't going, you know, into the synagogues to to write like turn everybody. It was like no, he's going out on the streets, he's going into the places and he's he's, you know, talking to them. They're meeting people exactly where they're at, and it was the least of these, it was the least of them.

Speaker 3: 1:20:16

So we have to break down the walls of just religiosity and and see that there's this whole wide world where the spirit just wants to like bust through.

Speaker 1: 1:20:29

Well, how can, how can people support you Like are you being? That, it's a um, it's a nonprofit right?

Speaker 3: 1:20:35

Yes, we are, yeah, we're. We're a 501c3, um approved nonprofit. So, yeah, you can. You can go to morninggloryglobalcom and that is our website. Yeah, we definitely, if you want to give you know. That just helps us on all of our outreaches, just helping women, just restore our vision is just to restore communities, restore dignity and and it's just beautiful. So you can, you can find us there. You can follow me on Facebook, kelsey Decker. I'm a storyteller, as you can tell, so I I do a lot of stories, I do videos and writing. So Facebook, my personal profile, is the best place to just follow me. And then I put those stories also on the strip club chronicles on my, on my website and so, yeah, you can give on there as well well, kelsey, I'm just so honored that you were open to sharing your story on here today.

Speaker 1: 1:21:34

I know that the listeners are going to just be so blessed and, and who knows, if, as this is going to continue to spread their fire and go global, there might be maybe somebody in your area that would want to take part in this. Is that something that's possible? Yeah, absolutely.

Speaker 3: 1:21:51

Yeah, we are always looking. We look the laborers are few, right, Very, very, very few. And so we are always looking for people, to, you know, join our team to come alongside us to just help in this fight. And I also train other strip club leaders from around the world, and so I led a training last fall.

Speaker 3: 1:22:14

I'm going to be leading another one in April and those are online, and so that's, if you feel the call to actually, you know, start a ministry in your own area, then that's a class that you can take. It's a six-week class and that's where you learn everything you need to know about starting a strip club outreach ministry and go out and do it on your own. So, yeah, lots of options.

Speaker 1: 1:22:39

Kelsey, oh, just love you, okay. Well, we're're gonna wrap up for today. Um, at the end of every episode, um, I, the lord, had me do this for the one, so every episode is for the one um, I would love for you to just, uh, just get a vision for the one who's listening in today. Is there something that you'd want to say typically it's's women listeners something over her, and then would you pray us out today.

Speaker 3: 1:23:06

Yes, absolutely. Yeah, well, I'm going to do that all together as one. Yeah, so yeah, for those of you listening, just just know that there just is hope in that, no matter what you've been through, no matter what it is right, like there that you've been you've been through, no matter what it is right, like there that you've been you've been redeemed already, like like Jesus did that on the cross. Like you have been restored, you have been redeemed. You no longer have to live with any shackles of shame around you. And so, even now, like I just pray, lord, that that that anybody listening to this, anybody under the sound of you, know our voices that are hearing this and hearing you, lord, that are hearing you, that they're just set free right now for any guilt, anything from their past that they're carrying around. I just even see, like, just those heavy burdens that are on people right, like just that heaviness. I can feel it in my shoulders. I felt it the whole time I was talking. I'm like, oh my gosh, this is somebody's carrying this heaviness, and so Jesus just wants to lift that right now he is taking all of that off, this burden that you are carrying. He says that is mine, daughter, that is mine, like I will take that from you. So he is lifting it and he is so light, right, he is so light. So by just putting your, your hope and your trust in him, um, that he will. He will completely, completely, just just fill you with joy.

Speaker 3: 1:24:39

Even right now, I just ask, lord, you, just all of the people listening just fill them with that oil of joy, just like you've given to me. Let them see that you know, this is not all serious, we don't have to take our walk so seriously either, like let's just bring back the joy, like he is a God of joy. So we thank you, lord, for all of your many aspects and characteristics and just for infusing everybody on here with your love and your light and your joy. And that, as you're lifting these burdens, that you are just replacing those burdens just with an easy yoke, right, just with that. Like my shoulders if you could see me right now, my shoulders, like going up and down, right Like you've just gotten a massage and you're like, oh, that feels so much better, like that's how it is with him, like he's giving you a spiritual massage and he's getting all of the kinks out, he's getting all of those stubborn knots out of there and he just wants you to relax, just like be at peace. Just be at peace and rest, like just rest in him today.

Speaker 3: 1:25:48

And so we thank you, lord, that you are our rest, that even when we're busy, even when we're doing that, we can do things from a place of resting in you, that we don't have to strive, we don't have to strive, and anybody yes, I'm even seeing that there's, like there is some yeah, we just right now, I just like cast out any, any spirit, any devil that is even trying to like hang on for dear life I can see it's almost like a parrot in somebody's ear and so I just silence the silencer right now, in Jesus' mighty name, and just be set free, sister. Just be set free that those voices that you've been hearing in your head, that I was talking about earlier, that I have lived through, that those voices right now are just silenced in the name of Jesus, and that you experience that peace right now. Let God's peace, let the peace of Jesus, the Prince of Peace, just wash over your mind. Just wash over your mind, yeah, and just fill us with your love, lord, just fill us with your love, even through the airways, like you work through these airways, so beautiful. So, yeah, we just thank you, lord. I thank you for every woman that's listened.

Speaker 3: 1:27:12

If you and reach out, feel free to reach out and reach out to him, reach out to him, share your. You know, what I love is that the Lord hears. He already knows, he knows every single thought in our heads, and yet he still wants us to talk to him. He still wants to be in relationship and communion with you. And so he's saying you know, speak to me, tell me your fears, tell me how much you love me, tell me all the things you know he loves to be worshiped and and adored. Right, so we love you, lord, we worship you.

Speaker 3: 1:27:50

This story has been for your glory. All of this is to glorify your name, to lift you on high, to say there is nobody that can set free, there is nobody that can deliver, there's nobody that can heal other than Jesus, and the name of Jesus is power. That is our power and that, yeah, in the blood of Jesus. I just plead the blood of Jesus over everybody's mind, over their spirit, their soul, their emotions, just over the entire airwaves. We just thank you, lord, for the blood of Jesus that sets us all free in Jesus' name, amen.

Speaker 1: 1:28:31

Kelsey. I hope you guys all could feel the power of Holy Spirit coming through her words and settling in your heart and your soul and your emotions today. It was for me too, so thank you. I am going to close with the anchoring verse for Hope, unlocked it's. May the God of hope fill you with all joy and peace and believing so that, by the power of the Holy Spirit, you may abound in hope. So thank you, kelsey, for being a brave voice who's setting others free, and I will be sure to add all of Kelsey's contact information in the show notes. Please reach out to her if you have questions. I'm sure she would love to chat. So thank you again, kelsey. I hope to have you on again sometime soon, because I know you're going to have definitely more testimonies as you continue on this beautiful journey with the Lord. So thank you again.

Speaker 3: 1:29:26

Thank you so much. It's been wonderful.

Speaker 1: 1:29:29

We'll see you next week. Thanks for listening in. Thank you.