Releasing Heaven’s Frequency Through Prophetic Music with Laura C

What if your greatest ministry begins after 40? In this powerful conversation with singer-songwriter and prophetic musician Laura C, we explore how the sounds and frequencies around us shape our spiritual and physical reality. Laura shares her journey from rock bottom, including a wake-up call that led to transformation and creative flourishing. She explains how music's spiritual frequencies impact our bodies and challenges worship leaders to release their unique sound. With compassionate wisdom, Laura encourages us to trust Holy Spirit and discern truth in today’s world, reminding us that our unique sound is exactly what the world needs.

Laura C's Contact Info:

Website - lauracmusic.com 

Laura C Music YouTube Channel - www.youtube.com/@LauraCWorship

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Chapters

• 0:16 Welcome to Hope Unlocked
• 2:19 Laura's Journey Through Hopelessness
• 5:51 Early Music Career and Painful Vows
• 11:23 Rock Bottom and Recovery
• 17:34 Understanding Frequency and Sound
• 28:27 Trusting Holy Spirit Over Fear
• 36:27 Releasing Your Unique Sound
• 1:12:47 Closing Prayer and Resources

Transcript

Speaker 1: 0:16

Welcome to the Hope Unlocked podcast. I'm your host, kristen Kurtz, and I'm also the founder of New Wings Coaching. I help and empower wildhearted and adventurous women of faith feeling caged and stuck, unlock their true purpose and potential, break free from limitations and thrive with confidence, courage and hope. If you're curious to learn more about coaching with me, head to newwingscoachingnet and be sure to explore the show notes for ways to connect with me further. Get ready to dive in as we uncover empowering keys and insights in this episode. So tune in and let's unlock hope together. Welcome to the Hope Unlocked podcast. I'm Kristen Kurtz, your host. I pray this episode is like a holy IV of hope for your soul. Please help me.

Speaker 1: 0:56

Welcome Laura C to the show. I am so thrilled to have her here with us today. I actually came across her a few years ago. I was running a group coaching experience and one of my clients actually shared one of her songs called Soar, and for those of you who know me, you know I love Eagles and I listened to the song and it was just. It was everything. It took me to a whole other place. So, laura, would you be open to sharing a little bit about yourself and then we'll get into it.

Speaker 2: 1:25

Sure Um. Thank you, kristen, for having me on first of all, and what specifically would you be interested in? Because, girl, I could go like all the way back and do my old testimony. So, what? What are you feeling like the Lord is wanting to highlight?

Speaker 1: 1:43

Yeah, for you you know, everybody who comes on there's an element of our testimony that what are you feeling like the Lord is wanting to highlight today For you, everybody who comes on, there's an element of our testimony that really ushers us into where we are today. So if you think back to that place, I think of you as this beautiful, pioneering, creative who's out there musically doing things very different. So what, like, bring us back to maybe a time in your life that has ushered you into this place. And, you know, is there a part of your testimony that you believe would really help unlock somebody in their own life and bring hope to them?

Speaker 2: 2:19

Sure, okay. So what came to me when you said that? Because the title of your podcast has to do with hope Um I w.

Speaker 2: 2:29

I remember being 40 years old and sitting in my living room um drinking red wine out of a coffee cup at like 8. Am, after my little kids had gone to school, and thinking, for the first time ever, feeling hopeless, like all my firsts were done my first record deal, my first publishing deal, my first child, my first marriage. Like I was, I didn't have anything to look forward to and coming from being adopted and the generational line that I came from, that devalued children and I was one of seven that was that was birthed and given away. So I didn't even value at that time the beautiful job of mothering the way that God wanted me to. So I just remember feeling absolutely hopeless, and if you would have told me that my ministry, my greatest joy, would have started after my 40s, I would have absolutely told you were crazy, because I've always been intuitive, I've always been connected to Holy Spirit, I've never felt alone, and the fact that I didn't see that one coming was really huge for me.

Speaker 2: 4:15

So so I guess one of the greatest messages that I have is for those who are in that situation later in their life maybe and who have thought that all the exciting good years have kind of passed them by. And I definitely, I definitely want to encourage those that you can be in your later years and feel literally like a child in the best way, not childish but childlike, where you're excited about everything that God's doing, where things are opening up to you like they never did even in your younger years, where you're soaring in your gifting and in your assignment and scroll on this planet and you're having more intimate face-to-face encounters with the living god than you ever even believe possible. So that's kind of um, I guess, where I would love to just encourage someone, right now.

Speaker 1: 5:30

So, if you like, if you go back, you said after 40, you know you're, you're out there releasing this. I would say just, I don't even know how to explain your music. I'm going to ask you more questions about it. Were you music, like musical, as a child? Were you in that space? Did you know that you had these giftings within you? Like, what did that look like?

Speaker 2: 5:53

Yes, so I've known from literally four years old what my assignment was on the planet. I knew that it was to write and release music um from the most intimate place. So music started out very young. I started writing at four and it became my therapy and I was I don't want to use, I was being molded by uh the Lord and prepared maybe to have my first like Christian record deal. I was kept very at like 18. So I was kept very pure in the sense that I didn't listen to music on the radio. I didn't know pop music, I didn't. I really used music as communication and as therapy and as intimacy from a very young age. I also was my adopted mother, was a speaker at women's conferences and singer and I was her company accompaniment. So it's crazy because I'm literally doing now what she did then. So um, so, so, yes, I was grew very young.

Speaker 2: 7:13

So I got a Christian record situation when I was like 18 and pulled out of college and I moved down to Los Angeles and it imploded through some. They were very well-known Christian um producers and uh executives. But what happened is they made some poor decisions and I had never, ever encountered any kind of scenario like this any kind of like, especially Christians being um. It was traumatic for me because I trusted them, I associated them with God and and that was my own you know place that I was at in my immaturity, and so I freaked out. I went back to my hometown in Northern California and I made a vow and we need to be really, really conscious of the vows that we make with our words and our heart, because all of heaven and all of all of the all of the heavens, the ones above and the ones below, are all listening to our words and they are acting upon them. And I made a vow that I would never get screwed over like that again, and so I was going to learn everything I could about the other side of the music business, the secular side, to arm myself and protect myself.

Speaker 2: 8:51

So, instead of relying remember I was 18, instead of knowing how to rely on the father to protect me, which he did in spite of me, I ended up working, going down to LA when I was 20 and working for the biggest like record producer, songwriter at the time, and so I was thrown into and I didn't step. I didn't step in a church for 10 years, my entire 20s I never stepped in a church because I made a vow, so I was thrown into the record business, the Hollywood entertainment scene, like right straight to the top and worked with all the greats. But the crazy thing was is because I never listened to music and I didn't know who any of these were, who any of these were, I was invited in because probably because I wasn't a fan I was invited in to the inner circle very quickly and really by some of the top songwriters and producers, just really taken under their wing, and so I learned a lot about the business side of music. Then at the end of my 20s I got a music publishing deal, a secular music publishing deal on my own, and then I met my husband and said thank you for the money and I'm going to New York and I'm going to do whatever I want to do. I'll write with some people. But I fell in love my husband, who is a advertising executive and we moved from LA to New York and then I began to live that life and have children and I did have some success as a songwriter under a different name and I had songs in covered by artists and also in film and TV. But I just spent the next several years raising children and didn't touch music at all.

Speaker 2: 11:06

So so that's kind of like I had the best of both like, but I definitely returned uh, because I was suppressing and maybe a lot of people can relate to this part because I had so suppressed and made vows about my relationship with God and my calling I had stuffed them down. So we all know that that leads to like major dysfunction, right, and so I had issues, serious issues, with addiction and with alcoholism, and to get to that point, at age 40, when I was sitting in that room with a coffee cup of wine, I ended up having. I ended up driving in a blackout with my kids in the car. I ended up driving in a blackout with my kids in the car, and I ended up going at that exact time into a 12-step program. And so that's when the Lord I finally began, during that year, the first year that I was in 12 step recovery, I finally made space again for him to begin to stir that up in me and begin to speak to me and begin. I had humbled myself a lot, and so you know, there are there are so many beautiful cycles in life of of that create the balance of contraction and expansion. And you know the womb process and birthing and pain and growth.

Speaker 2: 13:01

I was always so pain averse that part of my hopelessness was I had, through my time in LA. I had definitely linked together pain with failure and pain with fear and pain with not being a good Christian, instead of understanding that these are cycles that we need to go through and that pain is a doorway into something greater. If you allow it to be, you get to choose, because God won't override your free will. So all the other times when there was pain, I would choose. I didn't know that it could be a doorway. Let's put it that way was the first time that I was kind of forced to see that I could either choose the door of growth and new life and and um, new choices, or I could choose to go backwards and so so everything really changed when I humbled myself and the pain of staying where I was was greater than the fear of the unknown you had a rock bottom moment but did like tangibly.

Speaker 1: 14:38

can you share with us like emotionally, like what, what happened? Was there a specific day that you can remember that you were just like I. I can't live like this anymore. Um, I have my own story of being saved from addiction as well, and I remember and I feel like there's somebody who might be even in this place right now, today, and they, they just want to hear like like that's what I'm feeling too.

Speaker 2: 15:32

Yeah, well, knowing that I was feeling hopeless and having wine at 8 am in the morning was a dark place to actually see. I observed myself doing that because I was able to pull back. The Lord opened that up. But driving in the blackout, waking up in the morning and seeing groceries and not knowing, not remembering me getting them, and then my husband saying what do you mean? You don't remember. We drove home from the Bible study party together and went to the grocery store and I drove and I didn't remember any of it, so much of my children's. You know my children's life because I was with my. I was having migraines and was sick and hung over in the afternoon when they came home and from school. And just those moments when of clarity they call it clarity but the truth is, is God was really pulling me back so I could observe, cause when you're in it you can't observe or see yourself objectively and those were definitely moments where I was like I was created for more than this.

Speaker 2: 17:01

And. But that, had that wouldn't have risen up in me in a pure way instead of a rebellious, prideful way. It wouldn't have risen up in me in a clear way unless the Lord had really allowed me to go down to the valley of the shadow of death. So I'm eternally grateful for that. And another thing I think that people often get confused by later in my story I had massive supernatural sovereign encounters where I was taken in the spirit for 48 hours and I was incredibly changed. Like almost what people? It's funny because I didn't have an NDE near-death experience. But when I listen to people's near-death experiences, they're extremely. They're almost identical to what happened to me, but I was taken for 48, in the natural, I was laid out for 48 hours.

Speaker 2: 18:01

So but what happens is when we have these cycles and we get radically healed or radically changed, we don't understand that this is spirit school, like we don't see the big picture and so we don't know that we're really in school.

Speaker 2: 18:21

And so what will happen, especially with addiction? Like, let's say, you have a trigger come back up and you succumb to it and you go into massive condemnation because you you feel that if you were truly healed you wouldn't have even had that come back up. So I would love to encourage people that, like in school, when you're given new revelation and understanding or knowledge on something, you're going to be tested, and to not internalize the test, like when we're in school, we don't go wait, I'm having a test, oh no, that must mean I, I failed. Right, you know what I mean. Like before the year, even taking the test as even as being offended by even given a test, right? So even Jesus was taken into the wilderness and tempted. So it's part of the maturing process, it's part of the steps that we can't skip in the process. And just because you're tempted does not mean and tested does not mean that you failed.

Speaker 1: 19:41

Amen, say that again.

Speaker 2: 19:43

Just because you're tested didn't mean that you did something wrong. It just means you're taking the test.

Speaker 1: 19:50

Yes, Like those are some keys for somebody listening in. Today I know for myself and even in my own story you know, there's been kind of these shame cycles that will come in along the journey that will try to keep you bound, because you have those moments where maybe you quote, unquote, failed the test.

Speaker 1: 20:08

But, like you said, there's, there's such a, it's such a process, like life is such a process, and I don't know about you, but there's been. You know places in my life, in my own heart, in my own journey that you kind of want to snap your fingers and just you know, can we just get through this pretty quickly?

Speaker 1: 20:26

And there, it's not. It's not this microwave. You know healing process all the time. You know, for me I was radically delivered of addiction. It was like that quit drugs, quit alcohol, quit smoking. But it's not like that for everybody, Right.

Speaker 2: 20:44

Absolutely and it it for everybody, Right, Absolutely and it it. That's not even the process that kind of you're still going to have to mature in. So God will use whatever he needs to use in your life to mature, to mature you into the measure, the full measure of Christ, because Christ in us, the hope of glory, us being formed into his likeness and his nature, is the journey. So he will use what, absolutely whatever he needs to use. And if we think that healing is one and done, then then we're missing the whole point, because it the journey, is the story, the journey is the testimony. And even if you get radically delivered from or you receive wholeness in one area, trust and believe, you're going to have other areas that you're still going to have to mature in. And that's okay, it's all okay.

Speaker 1: 21:54

So good Can I? Did you have I know you did like 12 step. I feel like we're just kind of stopped here for a second. Did you have like supportive you know your husband? Did you have people that were like supporting you through your journey, as you were healing and going through your own process? What did that look like for you?

Speaker 2: 22:12

Well, I did the 12 step thing only for the first year and I, even to this day, if someone is in crisis with addiction, I would wreck. I still recommend a 12 step program in the beginning for them. The problem was, is I? It became my identity because I didn't know my identity, identity outside of that. And here's the thing I uh got a huge download for a wreck, my first record during that period, during that year, and I produced an album that was 12 steps, 12 songs. It's called the Gift of Brokenness and I used a Grammy winning producer and the thing is is the Lord flung the gates wide open for me to begin to share that record.

Speaker 2: 23:08

So I was on the Today Show twice and traveled all over the country. I did not know that there is a whole circuit out there of 12-step music, of people that are doing music related to their recovery, which I called recovery music. Um and so, for for a year and a half or two years I was traveling all around the country being part of these festivals and and events, right, and a lot of people were getting a lot of healing because there there weren't a lot of albums out there at that time. In fact, I was told by the Prism Awards out in Hollywood that I was the first one that did an entire album dedicated to recovery. Oh wow.

Speaker 1: 23:58

No idea.

Speaker 2: 23:59

Yeah, I called it recovery music, anyway, but what happened is I didn't have, I hadn't matured. So the anointing, as we know, our anointings, are non-repentant, like they reign on the just and the unjust. We all have anointings for something, and anointings have nothing to do with character, they're just a gift and your character still has to be developed. A gift and your character still has to be developed. So, because I hadn't dealt with my 10 years in Hollywood and the platforms inside of me, um, and the desire to be, you know, famous, or all that stuff that you get in Hollywood, you get baptized into, I hadn't really dealt with all that. And so somebody from Hollywood offered me a deal to manage me, saying, yeah, you're thinking too small with this recovery thing.

Speaker 2: 24:58

And, by the way, when I was in the flow of my assignment, the Lord was my manager. He opened every door and it was seamless, it was like literally threw me out there and made all these crazy, incredible things happen. But I hadn't dealt with my stuff. And so this manager came and said I'm going to do this, this, this, and that it was just like the enemy offering me to sell my soul. And I went this sounds fun. And so the second, I signed the paperwork, um, the Lord just shut the door on the entire thing and that's yeah, he shut the door. And then, of course, I went into a really dark place, um, where he began to deal with me, on my heart and some of the trading platforms, um, some of the exchanges that I'd done, of what I've given over, um of myself in order to gain something that that was outside of what the Lord had already done. Does that make sense?

Speaker 1: 26:09

Yeah, absolutely it's. It's that you know we were talking a little bit before we got started. It's that you know the obedience that we. It's it's either his yes or it's like I used to call it, it's his great or my good. There you go.

Speaker 2: 26:28

That's good.

Speaker 1: 26:29

And we have these choices where it's like a best yes or a best no, and we are we're constantly faced with choices every day, right?

Speaker 2: 26:40

Yeah.

Speaker 1: 26:40

But there are some bigger moments in our life that we, um. We are offered things that may may look like they're sparkly and the treasure, um, but you've encountered some of these times that really have been. It's a counterfeit right.

Speaker 2: 26:56

It's absolutely the counterfeit and I needed to deal with some of those things have to come up. So so many times we, we think Shalom, which means wholeness, which is pretty much like my assignment is to engage and teach and explore the words, the word shalom. So people think shalom means peace, but it really means wholeness, like the fullness of Christ formed in us and the ability to govern over our own internal chaos and to have Christ walk on our water Because we are with, you know, with our cells and plasma. We are about 99% water.

Speaker 1: 27:51

Yeah.

Speaker 2: 27:52

So um, or high nineties, so anyway, um, um. I forgot what you, I forgot what you were asking me. I was going off on a tangent.

Speaker 1: 28:04

No, it's good. Um, so where you know where you had these these times, where it was just the it's a, you know the counterfeit that we were drawn into right.

Speaker 2: 28:14

Yes, you, you were saying how we have to have those, we have to have these moments that we're coming face to face with ourself right, yeah, so I really feel like, if we're honest with ourselves, most of us are seeking what I would call, like in quotes, non disturbance. We're seeking to return to that womb place where we feel really safe, where we feel totally nurtured and where all our needs are met. But every baby has to be birthed at some point. And the problem is is we, we can do that, we can surround ourselves, we can stay in a womb, we can create, we create every with our thoughts, our words, we're always creating, so we can create a universe where we deal with no one, where we never get hurt.

Speaker 2: 29:10

We, we can, you know, we can cocoon ourselves if we want to, but you're going to stay an infant and you're never going to be born and you're never going to be revealed. So the cycle is always hidden, revealed, hidden, revealed. And those are the. That's the cycle that we have to choose to engage with in order to mature and to grow and to become more like Christ, and to grow and to become more like Christ. And the problem is is we want, we don't mind the hidden and we love the revealed, but we don't want the birthing process, right? You?

Speaker 1: 29:53

just completely put into words so much of what I explained to people, but you did it so eloquently. Oh, that's awesome. Butterflies have really been a big thing for me over the years, just their transformation process.

Speaker 1: 30:10

Like yeah, start out as a little crawling creature, go into the cocoon for a while. I love just their process. I've seen it like this last year there was four cocoons right outside my window here to watch their process and I think of like how, I think of how painful it is to become glop goop, whatever it is. There you go, the meltdown. Yeah, it's like it's this complete refining process and then they come out and they, they're beautiful, they can soar, and I've said over the years, especially these, I don't know about you, but I'm 47. So I would say since I turned 40, it's been in and out of the cocoon. I'm like, oh, going back into the cocoon again.

Speaker 1: 31:00

But we don't stay there and I've seen so many people that, like you said, want to stay in the safe place. They want to just stay safe and not step out and do the thing that, you know, maybe God's calling them to do or to be and become because it is safe. It's. We're not called to be safe. Safe it's, we're not called to be safe. Um, as you know, people have called me like a spiritual midwife.

Speaker 1: 31:27

There is this birthing process we have to push painful, like having kids is painful. It is painful and, um, you know, I I think of these moments that we, we have a choice and we get to push, we get to have him. You know, he's given us things to birth, yes, but there's going to be pain in that process. So thank you for like eloquently. Do you have a song about this?

Speaker 2: 31:56

Pretty much every one of my songs is about this journey of the soul and the transformation, journey of of the soul and the transformation. Because, um, you know what I love about the fire of God when it says that he is a consuming fire. Um, well, we instinctively fear fire, right, but the truth is, fire never destroys, it only changes the composition of something. Right, because energy never disappears, it just changes form. And so when we're in, like I, have learned to welcome the fire, to engage him as the consuming fire, because all fire does is burn away that which is carnal, which is not of him. And if you learn to embrace the fire, I actually do have a song called I won't fight the fire, and it's literally about running toward that which we, in which our carnal nature, fears.

Speaker 2: 33:03

But we absolutely need the refiner's fire, and it's never the reason we fear. It is because we don't understand the true nature of the father. We still see him as punitive, as a punisher, and that we associate fire with punishment and burning something down, being destroyed. But the truth is, is fire, it's part of his nature, his four, the only words that Yahweh himself uses to describe himself in scripture are love, light. In scripture are love, light, spirit and fire.

Speaker 2: 33:50

And so I've been really engaging God as the consuming fire and retraining my mind and my heart to move toward him as the fire, to welcome the purifying and see it as his consuming love and not punishment. And the more we begin to train ourselves towards his true nature, then more and more of the fear begins to be transformed into energy. That begins to be transformed into energy that, because fear is major energetically, fear is a powerful system, right, and so the more that we can transmute that fear into something else because fear's not just going to disappear, it must be transmuted by the renewing of our mind and by his power. So learning to take that which I feared and transmute it into that which I welcome and I know will bring him forth, Do you have, like you know I look at the last five years in our world you know it's a weapon everywhere, right?

Speaker 1: 35:12

What does that look like for you to maybe take something in this world? I'm just wanting you to give an example to somebody who's listening. Maybe they're living in fear, anxiety like how, how would you encounter something that maybe would be, you know, in our flesh? Fear producing, how do you tangibly flip the script on that?

Speaker 2: 35:42

Through relationship with him face to face, through encounter, through meditation, which is scriptural, through engaging his true nature being okay. So we only do what Jesus did right. Okay, so we only do what Jesus did right. Jesus always pulled himself away and he says I only do what I see my father doing and say what I hear my father saying. So that is our pattern. So we only then do, we go and see because we are in him, so he is in us and we are in him. So anything that he can do and see, we can do and see.

Speaker 2: 36:32

So when I really believe the Bible when it says come up here, I go up inside of me, right, because he's in me and the kingdom is within. So I engage him face to face and I ask him from his perspective, what's happening, what is this? I pull because everything is about seeing it from his perspective and his perspective is always 180 degrees different than our perspective. And so every time something happens in this world, I ask him what are you doing, what is this for? And he almost always shows me or he deals with some fear inside of me. I take it to him because whatever you look at, whatever you focus on, multiplies. That's just a principle, that's a spiritual principle, that's a uh. That's a physical principle, right? So we know that if you focus on your depression, you become more depressed. If you focus on food, you become more hungry. If whatever you put your focus on draws it to you, that's just physics and it's a spiritual principle. So that's why it says fix your eyes on him so that he will multiply. And so I always am asking him untether me. Because the reason that we get into fear is because we're tethered to the world, we're tethered to the news, we're tethered to politics, we're tethered to systems down here that are not even of him. We come from another kingdom, we come from another realm. He is our home. That kingdom is our true nature and our true reality, yet. So we need to ask him help me, untether from country you live. You may have your home in the embassy, you may live in an embassy in another country, but you're not from there and you don't even your rules of conduct aren't governed by the country that you're in. You still get to have in an embassy as an ambassador. You still get to have your home, protocols, rules, customs, honored and you live by those, even in another country. Right, that's who we are. We are ambassadors of heaven and we live from the embassy of heaven in this realm that we are in relationship. The more that that becomes our reality, the less power that this has over it.

Speaker 2: 40:15

And Ian Clayton once said if you look meaning hook your eyes into at what's happening in this world, you'll get what's happening to this world. But if you look what's coming out of heaven, you'll get what's coming out of heaven. And I choose to hook and anchor into what's coming out of heaven. That's what I do with music. That's why my music sounds different, feels different, is because I see what I take. My seat in heaven, where the scripture clearly says I'm seated in heavenly places. So before I sing, I engage that seat. I hear and see what Yahweh is doing in heaven, what he's releasing, what sounds and frequencies he's releasing into this realm, and I bring them forth.

Speaker 1: 41:13

You're setting somebody free today. Amen. I want to touch on frequencies because, gosh, it must have been. I might have been kind of late to the game. Some of us are right, I would say probably six or so years ago I went to see a naturopath because I had some things that I needed tended to, and also a Christian naturopath. So she, you know, very Holy Spirit led, christian naturopath. So she, you know, very holy spirit led, and one of the first things she said to me um, I'm sure you've heard of it before.

Speaker 2: 41:52

It was whole tones you heard of.

Speaker 1: 41:52

You mean a website well it's frequency like uh sounds music. That you okay.

Speaker 1: 42:00

There's a sleep one specifically but she told me you you really need to start like tapping into this, and I was like, oh, I've never heard of that before. So when I heard that you had, you know basically what I would I think you call it as well like heavenly, frequency, sound this, this music? Um, like what? What did that look like for you to step into that, and could you explain to people who maybe I don't know, some people have fear about frequencies? I think some of these words have just become again. They've been hijacked by the enemy, so could you go there? Would you go there?

Speaker 2: 42:42

Absolutely so. Um, let's see, frequency is just energy. It's, uh, it's just a sonic wave that our ear interprets as sound. So, or, but, but everything is made up of frequency. Um, I mean, that's just Einstein, tesla. So everything is about tuning. Every thought that we have, every word that we say, everything we listen to is tuning us to something, right, it's changing our frequency.

Speaker 2: 43:32

And if people really want to understand what sound and frequency do to our bodies, they should check out Dr Massaro, m-a-s-u-r-o, emoto, e-m-o-t-o, and it's called the study of sound and its effects in this realm, are on on matter, are called, is called cymatics, and it's C-Y-M-A-T-I-C-S and it's just science. So they basically, when I said that we are almost, you know, in the 90 percentile of water, that we are almost in the 90 percentile of water, water is a carrier of sound, right? So we are constantly, if we are that much water, we are constantly being tuned. The sound is going into our water, like when you drop a rock into a pond and you see the ripples. That's happening inside of us and geometric structures are being formed in our body and the, the, if you, you know, chemically everything comes down to the geometric structures right At the base of all, anatomy, um biology. So, basically, we are constantly tuning ourselves to either the tree of life or the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, right and it's. It's interesting because in the 12 step program they say everything that you do or say or think is moving you toward a drink or away from a drink.

Speaker 2: 45:05

Same concept we are being tuned to the mind of Christ. Source is the most important thing, the source being either the carnal mind or Jesus as the tree of life. So I am constantly retuning myself to his frequency through what I listen to, through what I read, through what I hear, in the spirit engaging him face to face. His words are tuning me, Scripture is alive. So scripture is constantly tuning us to truth. Right, it's living and active, and frequency matters. Everything has a frequency, all matter carries frequency.

Speaker 2: 46:22

So, yes, so my music is, and you'll know this, because when you hear a song, it will immediately make you feel a certain way Right. And, trust me, the enemy understands this so well. He knows how to tune us to the frequency of chaos, the frequency of anger, the frequency of fear, absolutely knows this. So he can't create anything right, he can just duplicate. So the Lord also has used music, all through scripture, to like David with Saul, he used the frequency, the sound of the music to tune him to wholeness, to Shalom.

Speaker 2: 47:16

And it's also no accident that the in the lyre, l Y R E, the, the instrument that David played, was made. Played was made out of gut string. Gut string because the sound and the frequency goes straight to our gut, to our water, to our emotions. So the way the Lord has shown me by taking me into heaven and explaining this to me is that what is carried on the frequency of our voices, of my voice, is what is inside me. So if you study breath, if you study the chemistry of breath, our DNA is literally released on our breath. So if my DNA is truly his DNA, because he is in me and I am in him and I only do what I see him doing and hear what I hear him saying, then his frequency, his sound, him doing and hear what I hear him saying, then his frequency, his sound will be released on my breath when I speak and when I sing and will go into people's water and will tune them to Christ. Does that make sense?

Speaker 1: 48:38

Like my brain is exploding in a good way.

Speaker 2: 48:44

Awesome.

Speaker 1: 48:45

Just the way that you're explaining this. Again, I think you're going to be setting somebody free because again, there's just been such a hijacking in the world.

Speaker 2: 48:55

Yes, yes.

Speaker 1: 48:56

Different things. You know, I, I, I do it Like. There's so much music that I listened to. I definitely stay away from certain genres that I maybe used to listen to before I was a believer. I'll just use an example. I used to listen to Metallica before I was a believer, and so many moments I'd be listening to that music I wanted to commit suicide. So many moments I'd be listening to that music I wanted to commit suicide.

Speaker 2: 49:24

Yep, that's frequency, because it's carried in the DNA of well cause cause. Maybe through them. At that time they were engaging with things that caused death. So death is carried on the sound. Which is why. Which is why at a, why at a concert, the enemy can stir up chaos in a crowd. But remember when I said that he can only duplicate, so that means that the Lord can. Then, in corporate worship, in corporate sound, can stir up Holy spirit, can stir up the anointing, could bring in the glory, because of the sound and the frequency, everyone joining with the same source.

Speaker 2: 50:22

It's sometimes it's it's frustrating, because I try to choose my words really carefully, because sometimes a lot of the people that I speak to don't haven't yet separated out what is the counterfeit and what is the original. So they will accuse me of being new age, or they will accuse me of being new age, or they will accuse me of being in the occult. And the truth is is the Lord has really shown me the original that comes from him, that the enemy is stolen, that he is now trying to take back because it belongs to him. So there are so many principles and technologies and words that the occult took because, remember, it rains on the just and the unjust.

Speaker 2: 51:16

When God releases something out of heaven, he doesn't only drop it into a Christian's heart. He releases it out of heaven and whoever pulls it down will receive it if they're open. Does that make sense? So, and and a lot of the church? He told me himself the Lord said I released things out of heaven that the church rejected out of fear, but I am taking them back because they belong to me. So I'm still in that kind of part of the journey of where we're at as a corporate body, as people, where we're still in that transition where people still are fearful of things that I might be saying, because they still see that only as the counterfeit or new age. But I promise you do the research. It always belongs to originally to the Lord.

Speaker 1: 52:22

Well, that's you know. That's part of why I feel he had me to reach out to you is to help bring you know, awareness and wisdom and knowledge to people who maybe don't have people in their life that are speaking truth. They're, they're in maybe a corporate body that doesn't go there because a lot of people don't go there in in many ways.

Speaker 1: 52:48

So I, I again, I believe that this is going to open up, you know, ears and eyes to truth and they can go, you know, take it to the Lord you know your list.

Speaker 2: 52:59

Take it back to the.

Speaker 1: 53:00

Lord, you know your list. Take it back to the Lord. I mean, that's always my when I'm coaching people like I might have a prophetic word for you. But take it back to the Lord, you know.

Speaker 2: 53:09

Can I just say one thing that Holy Spirit told me which, which when I because I wrote this song, your word Out of Heaven, and I was so offended when the Lord dropped that into my spirit, I said I am not writing this, I am not a word out of heaven, you're the word. And he said Laura. He said, don't get it twisted, you are not the word, but you are a word. You are made in my image. You are made in the image of Christ. It's scripture. I'm sorry, you are made in my image, so you are not the word, but we are a word out of heaven. So Holy Spirit said to me at some point you have to trust me, holy Spirit, more than you fear deception.

Speaker 1: 54:00

Say that again.

Speaker 2: 54:02

At some point we have to trust Holy Spirit more than we fear deception. We are either in relationship the kingdom is either within us or it's not and we can't give more weight and honor to deception than we do to Holy Spirit. So only with Holy Spirit can we unpack through the word what is true and what is not. But you, I love Justin, and Abraham always says you are powerful to think on your own, to take what I say, take it back to the Holy Spirit and let him open it up for you. Just make that space inside of yourself to say I am willing to entertain this, even though I've been told it's not of you. Will you show me where you are in this and then like take, take Holy Spirit's word for it, don't take mine.

Speaker 1: 55:07

Yeah, amen. I mean, right, there it is. There's a huge key for you guys. Now you mentioned you've had maybe some pushback along the way. What has it been like for you to walk that out? You know I come alongside a lot of women who you know maybe they're dealing with. You know people pleasing or fear of man, or you know what does it look like for you to keep going? Because I see way too many people self-aborting their calling?

Speaker 2: 55:39

Well, I have been kicked out. I was leading worship at a really large evangelical church and I was asked to leave. And you have to have such an authentic relationship with the Lord that when somebody tells you that you're, that you're not what they're looking for anymore, or that they don't agree with you that that relationship is just, no one can take away a relationship what real like. I have had encounters after encounter after encounter with the living God. No one can take that away from me. And the word has backed up every single thing that he has I've seen in the heavenlies. So at some point you have to trust that reality has to be more real to you Now. Yes, you have to be in accountability. I'm in, I'm in accountability. I have people in my life that speak into my life that I bounce things off of, that. There are um that challenged me and that we, we discover through the word um, you know what, whether it's real or not, I I mean I I'm in accountability with, with many people. So I'm certainly not off of my own and I don't recommend that to anyone.

Speaker 2: 57:23

Don't be a lone wolf, don't go off crazy. But we have to let go of fear and we also have to go. We have to say you're taking me on a journey, lord, and there may be some times, based on my past brokenness or generational brokenness, where I'm a little off for a minute. But you will retune me back to truth and if you stay humble at the feet of the Lord, where you're always willing to be tuned to truth, I mean, imagine when someone's a kid your own child is riding a bike and they fall a few times and you kick them and say you idiot, you'll never get to ride a bike again because you fell down a couple of times while you were using your training wheels. We would never do that to a child, yet we do that to fellow brothers and sisters in Christ all the time.

Speaker 1: 58:26

And wouldn't you say it's almost more rampant than it's ever been.

Speaker 2: 58:31

Well, religion is being religion. The unrighteous real of the same, the same spirit that Jesus railed against, is being deconstructed and it is coming down. So that's just a fact, and we're seeing it all around us. Things are imploding, ministries are imploding. Anything that was not all that can be shaken is being shaken. Anything that was not built on him is coming down. Because it's a system and, thank God, because the current system that we have of you know three fast songs, two slow songs and you know everything timed down and the production that church has become. And the production that church has become I don't even know where that came from. That has to only be in the last like hundred years that never, ever, all through history, never was what the church, the body, looked like, and there's only one church and it's the church in heaven. So that's the church. I'm part of Amen.

Speaker 1: 59:40

What is his heart on that? What do you sense? His heart is over the future.

Speaker 2: 59:47

His heart is the same way. It is with us. It's love, and it's actually love that is allowing. It's not punitive, it's restorative. His judgments are always unto restoration and mercy always triumphs over judgment. So most of what's happening right now, even though the Lord maybe sovereignly put the dominoes in motion, the people, the things that are being exposed are things that we did to ourselves, because we have free will, and the Lord gave uh, he gave the government over to Adam. Adam gave it away, yeshua, jesus on the cross, gave it back to us, and the Lord honors that. I personally don't. I don't believe. I believe that free will is responsible for almost everything that happens.

Speaker 2: 1:00:49

The Lord, he's not a master chess player manipulating us and moving pieces around. He has boundaries, he has rules, because it is a kingdom and there is order, but he is teaching us how to rule and reign as sons. That's scripture, that's the book of Hebrews. There's a purpose to all of this so that we can rule and reign as the kings and priests that we are in the order of Melchizedek Right and as he is, so are we in this world. So all of this is to teach us how to become, to step into the position that he has given us as kings and priests. So we are learning how to judge and the truth is is according to the pattern of Jesus, we cannot judge anything that we are not willing to die for. So, yes, we are going to judge, but Jesus established the pattern because he is our type and pattern and he died. He became the high priest and died. That's why he was allowed to judge, because he loved the world that he died for our sins right, and so we therefore cannot judge anyone that we are not willing to die for. So his judgments are righteous and his judgments are are all good, but there his justice looks different than ours. His justice is unto restoration, and if our heart is not positioned, if we don't have compassion for the abuser and the abused, then we're not seated in his heart.

Speaker 2: 1:02:48

Now there are natural consequences that have to play out when someone, when someone, when there's a miscarriage of justice, but God always judges unto restoration, and restoration doesn't always mean that they get their platform back, especially in ministry. It's like that's a fake, that's a carnal, man-made platform. Anyway, if, if Jesus and the disciples are our pattern, you know, then they never stood on any platform and had a ministry. Paul was a tent maker, peter was a fisherman. It's like go get a job at Home Depot and do your ministry and be like Jesus. There's your ministry and trust him to provide. But just because you abuse someone or had some real public failure doesn't necessarily mean that you get your ministry back, because maybe he never put you there in the first place. But that's not a. Thus saith the Lord. That's just a. That's just me.

Speaker 1: 1:03:58

Great, it's, it's a whole, it's a whole topic. We could, we could come back for yeah and you asked about his heart.

Speaker 2: 1:04:06

I'll tell you his heart is always for both to be restored back to their original estate, which is the fullness of christ, the full measure of Christ formed in all of us.

Speaker 1: 1:04:23

I'm thinking like one of your songs is restoration, right, just just thinking of that song, this might be kind of I know I'm going sideways for a second, but if you were to look at all of the songs that you've put out there, which one like has your heart the most, the next one that he's going to write that he's, because it's what ever he's kind of doing with me at that moment.

Speaker 2: 1:04:49

All my songs are experiences, are encounters, and so I don't sing about anything that I haven't personally encountered myself. So I'm always looking forward to the next thing, the next encounter I'm going to have, because the song is going to be birthed out of that. And I believe the power is in the testimony and we can you know I'm not hear my heart when I say this the church has become cover songs, worship leaders doing cover songs like karaoke, basically of someone else's testimony, and I do not believe it was ever designed to be that way, the Lord. You know, bethel songs are beautiful and they're wonderful, but they were given to those people for the fullness of Christ and the glory of Christ to be formed in those people and that region and that atmosphere. They were not meant to be duplicated. Even Jesus healed everybody differently every time because he doesn't want us to make a system out of everything. And when we go, here are the songs of our generation and they come out of one generation and they come out of one group. Bethel didn't do that. We did that. They raised up the songs, but they never.

Speaker 2: 1:06:27

I'm not saying that it was in their heart to make everybody sing their songs. That would be like me imposing my testimony over every other person on this planet, right? Because songs are meant to be testimonies, because the power is in the testimony. So therefore, every when I meet with churches and with when I, when I mentor worship leaders, I'm always encouraging them go up, get your own sound, your own song, release your own sound, because that is what God is doing, not only in you but in this region.

Speaker 2: 1:07:09

Your songs are meant to change this region because that's why they have local government, because the government is not just one federal government over every little city. It's meant to be localized, to deal with the things that are specific to your body in that area, right In that region. And it may be totally different, it may be a different sound, a different frequency than what God is doing in California or in Reading, in Bethel. So they're not bad. I'm not against anything, but I am for what the Father wants to do in regions, but he can't, because people don't believe that they can go up face to face and see what the father is saying and do what the father, see what the father is doing and say what the father is saying. But they can.

Speaker 1: 1:08:10

Yes.

Speaker 2: 1:08:12

So release your sound, release your sound, release your sound.

Speaker 1: 1:08:18

That's what I've been saying to people, for you know, as a coach one of my, one of my I guess it might sound kind of cheesy, but to learn your calling and to roar with your voice and for years saying release your unique sound. Like you can't be a duplicate of somebody else, like we can't, we can't try to duplicate somebody else. We might get ideas from somebody, yeah, but we, like I, just my, my overarching message is like it has to be different.

Speaker 2: 1:08:47

You have. That's right. It has to be yours because you are a unique facet of the father's nature. You are expressed. You are a song that he sang over you Zephaniah 318, 316. Sorry, zephan, song that he sang over you.

Speaker 2: 1:09:01

Zephaniah 316, zephaniah, he sings over you. What he is singing over you are the set of frequencies that form your song as you are released into this realm. They are the undergirding, the soundtrack to your life. They are uniquely who you are, based on the sum of the thoughts of the Trinity over you. And so, even though we are all meant to be formed in the image of Christ that is our true nature there is a unique facet of Yahweh that he wants to express only through you. It's like when you have your own children yes, they have your DNA, but they carry something of you and your spouse. So they carry the mixture and they carry unique facets of that, but they are not you, right? They are of your seed, just like we are of the seed of the father, but we are not the father. You can never be greater than the one that created you. So this is not about putting yourself on the level with Christ and exalt or exalting yourself above him. This is not what that is. This is he. You are the sum of the thoughts of the Trinity when they created you and released you into this realm, and they had a specific order of those thoughts, a binary code of ones and zeros. And when I say that here in my heart, I'm saying one being Aleph and zero being potential. That's a binary code, right, and we are a unique combination, a unique order of their nature to be expressed in this realm.

Speaker 2: 1:11:11

So you have a unique sound, the, the way you know, the way that the lord taught me this was he took me in the spirit, he took me to, uh, all the tribes and the instruments and tribes and nations, and he said he showed me how he created them uniquely, with their own sounds, their own dances, their own um paintings, their own paintings, their own expression of art on their bodies and their own instruments for them for that region. Yes, they were hijacked. Yes, witchcraft came involved. Yes, they were corrupted, but everything has been, after the fall, right.

Speaker 2: 1:11:57

But he is now taking back and returning to all tribes and all nations the original intention that he sang over them, the original song that he sang over their region, the original, the sound that came out of those instruments. They're all being restored back to their original intent and often when I go into a place and I engage in the spirit, first I hear. I go up and I hear the song of the land and the sounds and frequencies that the original song that was sung over that land, that was sung over that land. And I'll ask the Lord just release that portion of the land or the portion of the song through me so that I can help call this land and its people back into remembrance of their original estate.

Speaker 1: 1:12:57

That's incredible. I mean, I'm just blown away by just the depth of who you are. Oh, thank you of who you are and being willing to fully release it to the world. I think it's very rare.

Speaker 2: 1:13:22

Oh, thank you, and so are you, and I'm grateful for what you are doing, and if you ever want to talk again, I would be happy to come back and do that again.

Speaker 1: 1:13:34

Yes, well, as we wrap up, I, at the end of every show, I like to ask my guests to just get a vision for the one who's listening in today. Is there anything else that you would like to speak over? Usually her, and then would you just pray over her today.

Speaker 2: 1:13:55

Yes, Lord, I just ask that you would restore your perfect order of faith, hope and love in everyone that's listening today, and the encouragement that faith doesn't have to be drummed up, that it's not our faith that we're standing on. It's your faith, Jesus on. It's your faith, Jesus. It's your faith. That is the structure, the foundation that we stand on. We don't even have to summon up our own faith, because even that would be in our own strength.

Speaker 2: 1:14:30

So we build, we ask you to build upon faith into the pattern of hope, which is like the scaffolding that's built upon the land, the structure, foundation of faith into love, which becomes the house. So I ask I speak that pattern over everyone listening faith begetting hope, begetting love, that they would release fear and that they would begin to stand on your faith as their foundation, your nature as their foundation, your goodness. I release love, light, spirit and fire into each one listening and I just bless Kristen and I call forth her scroll and her assignment into its full expression, and I thank you for the scroll that you have given her and her heart, the part of her, of your heart that she carries in her desire to encourage and release others into their own destiny, and I just release blessing to everyone and I thank you for this beautiful time relationally that we can entangle together in your nature and your name, In Jesus name Amen.

Speaker 1: 1:16:08

Amen. Thank you so much. I would love to have you back again Anytime. I'm going to close with our anchoring verse for Hope, unlocked it's. May the God of hope fill you with all joy and peace and believing so that, by the power of the Holy Spirit, you may abound in hope, and that's Romans 15, 13. So thank you for being a brave voice that's setting others free. Is there anything coming up for you that you just want to share before we wrap up?

Speaker 2: 1:16:35

Well, if anyone is looking for my music, it is on YouTube pretty much exclusively. I my music. It is on YouTube pretty much exclusively. I give everything away for free on YouTube which is Laura C Cat Worship on YouTube. Or you can just Google Laura C at this point and a bunch of stuff will come up. And I have a website, lauracmusiccom. Have a website lauracmusiccom? Yeah, so everything is pretty much available to be given away and I just hope that you're blessed by it.

Speaker 1: 1:17:09

And I will have all of her information in the show notes. You can easily go find her. So thank you again. I am so blessed to have you on here today. I know that so many are just going to be so blessed for your music through your voice, everything you've shared here today. So I will be back with another episode next week. Bye, listeners.