Hineni to Homeland: Amber Hoskins on Aliyah and Partnering with God’s Prophetic Plan

In this powerful episode of Hope Unlocked, host Kristin Kurtz welcomes Amber Hoskins, a prophetic voice and advocate for Aliyah, as she shares her journey of surrender, waiting, and stepping into God’s call to partner with His heart for Israel. From deep inner healing to working with Operation Exodus USA, Amber reveals how Isaiah 49:22 became a rhema word that changed everything. Hear how her “Hineni” yes led to purpose, prayer, and participation in the prophetic return of the Jewish people to their homeland. Learn more about Operation Exodus and how you can be part of this unfolding promise.

Amber's Contact Info:

Email - amberhoskins54@gmail.com and ahoskins@operationexodususa.org

Interested in learning more about Aliyah and Operation Exodus? You can request a representative to speak at your church or group. Visit operationexodususa.org or ebenezer-oe.org for details.

Aliyah Testimonials - https://operationexodususa.org/aliyah-stories/

Chapters

• 0:00 Episode Introduction
• 1:40 Amber's Journey Through Transition
• 8:47 The Season of Waiting and Surrender
• 15:48 The Call to Help Jewish People Return
• 25:25 Operation Exodus and Aliyah Ministry
• 36:47 Biblical Promises of Israel's Regathering
• 50:59 Next Generation of Aliyah Awareness
• 56:13 Words of Encouragement and Closing Prayer

Transcript

Speaker 1: 0:16

Welcome to the Hope Unlocked podcast. I'm your host, kristen Kurtz, and I'm also the founder of New Wings Coaching. I help and empower wildhearted and adventurous women of faith feeling caged and stuck, unlock their true purpose and potential, break free from limitations and thrive with confidence, courage and hope. If you're curious to learn more about coaching with me, head to newwingscoachingnet and be sure to explore the show notes for ways to connect with me further. Get ready to dive in as we uncover empowering keys and insights in this episode. So tune in and let's unlock hope together. Welcome to the Hope Unlocked podcast. I'm Kristen Kurtz, your host. I pray this episode is like a holy IV of hope for your soul. Please help me.

Speaker 1: 0:56

Welcome Amber Hoskins to the show. I am so excited to have her here today. If you guys have been listening to the show, I love meeting people. I love connections and we actually connected first and foremost through Grow back in the day with Nate and Christy Johnston Such a profound time to be in that group and so thankful. And then we connected further through like social media and had the privilege of just going deeper with her earlier this year. So, amber, would you be open to sharing more about yourself and maybe like how has it been for you since we connected? It's been a fun journey, hasn't it?

Speaker 2: 1:40

Absolutely yeah, and thank you for having me. Absolutely yeah, and thank you for having me. I'm really excited to be here today to share with you and your audience, your listeners, and yeah, so, since we really connected you and I back in December when I joined your New Wings coaching the one-on-one coaching I was just in a place where I had been in a season of waiting and I knew that transition was coming. But just I needed someone to talk to about it and to explore that further and deeper. And there was a post that you had made shortly before I was about to turn 40. And the Lord had already been speaking to me about 40, had been preparing me for months.

Speaker 2: 2:33

I felt like just in anticipation, that with turning 40, there was going to be a change, there was going to be a transition and a new chapter was going to start. And so you had made a post and you had mentioned specifically the number 40. And I thought, okay, I need to, I need to connect with her and just kind of explore this and see what this is about. And I went on your site and was just reading some of the reviews and everything that these reviews were talking about. I just knew in my spirit that that's. That's what I needed. I needed, like a spiritual midwife to to help me through this process and just kind of, you know, um help navigate the waters of of transition. And so, uh, yeah, we had that initial um I don't remember what it was called, but like the initial call.

Speaker 1: 3:28

It's like a discovery call.

Speaker 2: 3:30

Yes, discovery call to see if it would be, you know, a good fit.

Speaker 2: 3:36

And it was, and it was just so I mean I have so many notes, my journaling took off during that time Like I couldn't hardly keep up with things the Lord was showing and speaking and revealing through our sessions. And just really that time, those sessions that we had just really digging in and the things that the Lord would highlight to you and the things that you would hear, it would be directly connected to something else that you know he had already been sharing with me, or something he had spoken but I had forgotten about. Or you know, there were things that weren't on my radar even, um, that that he would speak and highlight. And, yeah, I mean I just have pages and pages and pages of discovery, yeah, and so, yeah, I turned 40 and it's just been a lot of change has happened, good change, and, yeah, just really really grateful for that time and can't recommend these sessions enough.

Speaker 2: 4:52

Sometimes you just need somebody to come alongside you and you know, yeah, just hold your hand through it, and especially with someone like you who has that prophetic gifting of of being able to hear certain things in the spirit and, um, yeah, I, I, just I can't recommend it enough.

Speaker 1: 5:14

Well, thank you Um, you know we.

Speaker 1: 5:15

I always say you know, it's like a three-way call with Holy Spirit and it's such a privilege to to do this and, gosh, what a privilege to walk alongside you and see the things that the Lord's calling you into in this time. And I would love for you to share a little bit more of what that looks like. And I know you mentioned maybe we can back it up a little bit the weight, right, I often call it weight training, w-a-i-t training. So what did that look like for you and how? I know waiting can be really challenging sometimes, right? So what did that look like for you and how did you I don't know I'm hearing like endure that waiting season?

Speaker 2: 5:57

Yeah, so it was. It was a process, you know, I I had just so year I was in Israel for a couple of months, which that's a whole story of how the Lord called me there, and it pertains to Israel and and as it goes in Israel, so it goes with the rest of the world and you know, supportive of of Israel and that kind of thing. But it wasn't really until um October 7th that things shifted, um, uh, quite dramatically for me. And just the, the very specific, undeniable call that um I heard from the Lord to go to Israel. And so I had been in Israel for a few months last year and I came back thinking that I was going to go back pretty soon and because when I was there, I had received a very specific word from the Lord, a very specific call, as I was reading through scripture, and it was just that rhema word. You know, when you're reading the word of God and there's times where something just explodes in your spirit. And I had one of those encounters with the Lord one day in prayer when I was in Jerusalem, and I knew what he was calling me to do. And so I came back and I didn't have all the details, I had just the general idea, but I didn't have all the details and I didn't know how that was going to unfold.

Speaker 2: 7:42

And I'll go ahead and share the scripture. Let me turn to it, just share. So I was in prayer one day over Israel and I came to Isaiah 49, 22. And when I read this I read this like I said it was just like a bomb went off in my spirit and I knew. I knew there was no question that this was what the Lord was calling me to do, and I don't know how many times I had read over the scripture over the years. But it wasn't meant to come alive until this point in history and for me. But Isaiah 49, 22 says this is what the sovereign Lord says See, I will beckon to the Gentiles, I will lift up my banner to the peoples. They will bring your sons in their arms and carry your daughters on their shoulders. And so I'm just weeping before the Lord, right, and I'm just like, oh, my goodness, this is what I'm supposed to do. I just and.

Speaker 2: 8:50

But I took a moment and I said, ok, lord, I want to make sure I'm not getting ahead of you and that this isn't just me. And I said is this what's on your heart? Is this what you're wanting me to pray for and intercede for? Is this what this is what's on your heart to bring your people back home, or is this what you're wanting me to pray for and intercede for? Is this what this is what's on your heart to bring your people back home, or is this what you're calling me to do? And he said it's both. And so, from there, I just I began praying about OK, what does this look like? How, how do I do this? I don't, I don't know how to do this. I'm just Amber, don't? I don't know how to do this? Um, I'm just Amber, um, you know? And um, so when I came home, like I said, I thought I would maybe be going back pretty soon to Israel, and, um, that is not what the Lord had for me, and he knew that I needed to go through this season of waiting and preparation and refining and purifying, and so, instead, I ended up going back to the job where I was working prior to going to Israel.

Speaker 2: 10:02

I had actually resigned from my job in order to go to Israel and did not want to go back there. I'll be honest, I did not want to go back there, and going back there felt like I was regressing. It felt like I was actually going backwards instead of forward. But there were lessons through that job and I'm still there actually, through that job and I'm still there actually.

Speaker 2: 10:28

I'm there part-time that but there were lessons there that I needed to learn and there were things that he needed to teach me through that job, one of them being financially and trusting him to be my provider, because it's, you know, it's it's a part-time job, doesn't't pay the most, doesn't, and I mean I'm grateful for his provision, but it's really stretched me and my faith and to trust him and to put my hope and my trust in him and not in my bank account, and, and so that was one of the lessons, and there were others, um, but really just learning to enjoy the journey with him and the process and what he had to unfold and what he was teaching me and and it's like once I learned to enjoy that journey and enjoy the process instead of begrudging it and and instead of resisting it and, you know, fighting against it, it was like, oh, this is actually enjoyable.

Speaker 2: 11:32

You know like, yes, granted, there are some uncomfortable lessons and there were some things that he had to show and reveal in my heart and prune out. So not all of it was, you know, pleasant, but he does that because he loves us and he knows what is ahead of us and what is before us and we can't carry some of these things that are within us into that next chapter and into that next season. Um, he wants what is best for us and so, yeah, really just kind of learning to embrace that, that journey and that adventure with him, because truly it is an adventure.

Speaker 2: 12:11

There's there's nothing boring or dull about following the Lord. Yeah, so I think I'm. I think I might have lost track of your question, but the way to yeah, just yielding to that, when you yield, the more you buck against it, the worse it's going to be, the harder it's going to be. But when you yield to that and just surrender and say yes, which there's a Hebrew word that's part of. One of the lessons that the Lord was kind of showing me is when you give him your unreserved yes, your unequivocal yes.

Speaker 2: 12:54

We see that in the three places. Where we see that in scripture is first, when he calls Abraham, what was Abram at the time? When he calls Abraham, well, it was Abram at the time. And he and Abram responds with you know, here I am. Actually I'm sorry.

Speaker 2: 13:16

It's when he's calling Abram to sacrifice his son Isaac and Abram says, before he even knows what the Lord is going to ask of him, he says hineni, that's what it is in Hebrew, hebrews Hineni.

Speaker 2: 13:25

And then we see it again with Moses in the burning bush. He says here I am, which is Hineni. And then when he's calling to Samuel three times when he's calling to Samuel, and it's that what you're saying is I don't even know what's on the other side of this, but I'm giving you my yes, I'm saying yes to whatever unfolds, and I'll tell you, based on a time in my life when I was not giving the Lord my yes and I wasn't living for him fully, I would much rather give the Lord my hineni, not knowing what's on the other side, than to do it my way. And it's far, far greater doing it his way, even if you don't know, because he will take you on an adventure. He will take you to places where you never expected. He will do exceedingly, abundantly more than what you could think or ask. And yeah, so that's. That's kind of been the things that I've learned through that waiting.

Speaker 1: 15:20

So beautiful. I mean, I I'm all with you on that. Like people ask, like how are things going? And I say I'm on a wild adventure. Yeah, yeah, it truly is like when we step into you know, the places he's calling us, the, the things he's calling us into, like it truly, and I don't know about you, but you, you know, on paper sometimes it it doesn't make sense, like it's not going to be. Um, you know, in school, you know you had everything kind of written out, it was planned out and this, this is a wild and fun adventure. It comes with little bumps in the roads, you know. And, yeah, as you were like kind of stepping into this full on, yes, cause, how long, how long would you say you've been full on, like full on, yes, how long has it been?

Speaker 2: 16:12

Full on. Yes, I would say 2022 or 2020. Yeah, I would say beginning of 2022, end of 2021, maybe because prior to that, I was, the Lord, was just. He was, he was pursuing my heart and I had had a long season away from the Lord, through some bad decisions and long-term relationships that I had no business being in and that led to a lot of brokenness, a lot of despair and hopelessness and just dead, absolutely dead inside. You know, the Bible says that the wages of sin is death and I was dead. You know the Bible says that the wages of sin is death and I was dead. I wasn't suicidal, but many times I just I didn't want to be alive anymore and just, really just the shame and condemnation and just believing the lies of the enemy. I was just.

Speaker 2: 17:20

I was in a really dark, unhealthy place and the Lord began a healing in me though it started in 2020, but it was a process and I had some setbacks because of, again, some choices that I had made, but ultimately, I would say yeah, towards the end of 2021, beginning of 2022. I would say yeah, towards the end of 2021, beginning of 2022. And then, even after my dad, I had moved back home to help be a caregiver for my dad and I had moved back in with my parents, which, as an adult, was really hard and after being on my own for so long, and I'm sure it was hard on them, but they were very gracious to me and um, you know, having their adult daughter back in the home. But it was really through their, just their daily witness and living out their lives for the Lord, that, um, the Lord began to just woo me and draw me back and and um, yeah, just began a healing.

Speaker 2: 18:33

And um, but I would say, yeah, 2022 was when I really started. There were bigger changes that were made and um, just really deep inner healing that took place. Um, and yeah, it was through that healing that I was in that place and finally, you know, full surrender and giving him my yes.

Speaker 1: 19:03

Yeah, but I know, at least for me, and you know many that I've talked to like in our yes, will come a test and many tests, right, so do you have anything that's come along? You know, sometimes it feels like there's a um, almost like a bomb that tries to kind of detour you from moving forward. Have you encountered anything like that?

Speaker 2: 19:30

Um, yeah, I, um I would say I had I had ended a relationship, a long-term relationship, um, a little bit before moving back home and after I had moved home, um, and I had begun doing some healing. That was actually one of my setbacks was, um, just that door opening again and um, but it was like once that was closed, once that was fully, fully closed, and I said, you know no more, you know I'm not, I'm not going back into this. Um, it was I was able to really really start that healing and embracing more of okay, lord, what is it that you're wanting me to do? What is it that you're calling me to do? And yeah, I don't. So hopefully that answers your question.

Speaker 1: 20:35

Yeah, and I mean what like? What keeps you moving forward, because right now you're still on an adventure with the Lord and we're always going to be on an adventure with the Lord, but I'm kind of thinking back to that time. You're in Israel and you're Isaiah 49, 22 is is like like permeating in your spirit so and this has been almost a year and a half ago. Was it a year and a half ago or no, just last year, right.

Speaker 2: 21:04

Yeah, so I got back April 1st of last year.

Speaker 1: 21:09

Okay, so just over a year, so since then, like what has happened and where is he taking you?

Speaker 2: 21:20

Well, yeah, so I just kept bringing it before the lord in prayer of you know, um, what do you want me to do with this? How do I go about doing this? Am I, am I, called to help your people return home from this side of the ocean you know meaning, from the united states or am I supposed to be in israel, on that side, doing something with Aliyah, which that is the Hebrew word for when Jewish people move back to their ancestral homeland, it's called Aliyah which Aliyah, and when you read through the Psalms, the Psalms of Ascent, that's the word that is used when they would ascend, it's called Aliyah. And so when you're going up to Jerusalem, it's called Aliyah. And so they've just modern in modern terms or modern language, that's, they've adapted that, and they use the term Aliyah to say, to describe when a Jewish person immigrates and moves back or moves to Israel, back to their ancestral homeland. So when I say Aliyah, that's what I mean.

Speaker 2: 22:29

So when I'm praying about Aliyah and how I'm supposed to be involved, I just, yeah, I'm just presenting that to the Lord and just really seeking what does that look like? But in the process of that, he's, he's, you know, along the way, he's showing me different things in scripture and all these different prophetic promises. Isaiah 49, 22 is one of many, many scriptures that talk about God's promises to bring his people back into the land, and so it was really just a lot of discovery and allowing the Holy Spirit to teach me through the word that this was not just something that happened in the past. This is something that is continuing to unfold, where we have seen an unfolding of that Um, but we are going to continue to see the these promises unfold and um, so I, I I made a friend in when I was in Jerusalem and um, and she also is called to the work of Aliyah and um, she actually told me about a nonprofit, a Christian nonprofit organization called Operation Exodus, and um, I hadn't heard of it, but they are.

Speaker 2: 23:55

They specifically help the Jewish people, specifically American Jews, return to Israel, and they do so through practical support, practical assistance, financial assistance and through prayer. And so I had, long story short I reached out to them this was last fall, and because they have some volunteer opportunities this was last fall and because they have some volunteer opportunities and so I spoke with the outreach director and just immediately, immediately, I, just I was like, oh, my goodness, I love this woman. I've got to know her and she I could tell like her heart was was for Aliyah, and I thought, you know, I could really learn a lot from this lady. And so we, we stayed in touch over the next several months and then in February there was a volunteer training, and so I went up to their headquarters for volunteer training and while I was up there, they asked me if I was looking for a job and I said you have no idea.

Speaker 2: 25:06

Um, and it was just such a such an answer to to many prayers and um, so we not only have Operation Exodus USA, but there's actually what is called Ebenezer Operation Exodus, which is the international office, and so there's an office in Jerusalem and they have a couple of houses in the north and in the south of Israel where they help the Jewish people once they have come into the land, once they have immigrated. They help them with the absorption process. So there's a lot of resources that they have available to them. But there's Operation Exodus offices all throughout the world and they help the Jewish people from those nations immigrate back, go back to Israel. So, um, yeah, that's, that's where I'm at right now.

Speaker 2: 26:07

I'm, I'm um working with them part-time and just trying to bring awareness to the work of Aliyah, because in these, in the times, these last days that we're living in, you know, we see what God is doing in the earth and it's it's the evangelism of nations, it's the purification of the church of his bride, and then Aliyah, and Aliyah is one of those things that isn't really on the radar of church of Christians, like we know to pray for Israel and we know that God commands us to pray for the peace of Jerusalem, but many times we don't realize myself included, until the Holy Spirit started teaching me just how many references there are in the Old Testament to a latter day regathering of the Jewish people to their homeland that God gave them. And so there's so many references I believe there's over 60 of them and if it's okay, I'd like to read a few of them. Did I answer your question?

Speaker 1: 27:16

Yes, keep going, this is great. Yeah, absolutely share some scripture that relates to it. Okay, I would agree, like this is not a focal point, for you know many churches right, yeah, and it's yeah, it's not.

Speaker 2: 27:34

I mean um, and then too, with you've got replacement theology, you know, rearing its ugly head, but yeah. So regarding the latter day regathering, in Jeremiah 16, 14, it says However, the days are coming, declares the Lord, when men will no longer say, as surely as the Lord lives, who brought the Israelites up out of Egypt, but they will say as surely as the Lord lives, who brought the Israelites up out of the land of the north and out of all the countries where he had banished them? For I will restore them to the land I gave their forefathers. And then again, in Jeremiah 31, 10, 10, god promises and he says hear the word of the Lord, o nations, proclaim it in distant coastlands. He who scattered Israel will gather them and will watch over his flock like a shepherd. And so these are just a few samples. I mean, there's so many, so many good ones where God says over and over I will do this, I will bring you back, I will gather you. I will read another one, in Isaiah 43, where he says do not be afraid, for I am with you, I will bring your children from the east and gather you from the west. I will say to the north, give them up. And to the south, do not hold them back, bring my I mean again. There's so many. That's just a really small sample of where he promises to do this, where God himself says he will do it, this, where God himself says he will do it. And then a call to the Gentiles is Isaiah 49, 22,. Where we can, where God is calling to the Gentiles to partner with him in this promise to bring the sons and daughters of Israel's back home. And so it's.

Speaker 2: 29:35

It's really easy, you know, to read over these passages and not realize that this regathering from the four corners of the earth where they've been scattered, and God says you know, I've scattered you, but I'm going to regather you it's unfolding before our eyes and it's going to continue to unfold. And there is a place in scripture, in Jeremiah 32, 41, that says I will rejoice in doing them good, talking about Israel, and will assuredly plant them in this land with all my heart and soul. And so we see, this is the only place in the Bible where we see where God says he will do something with all of his heart and all of his soul. And God promises that he's faithful to watch over his word. He says that in the first chapter of Jeremiah and that his word will not return to him void, but it's going to accomplish his purposes. And so why is God restoring them to their land?

Speaker 2: 30:36

I know this is a really hot topic in the world right now and even in Christian circles. You know like is God done with Israel? And the answer is no. Romans 11 is very clear about that. How God is not done. He has not rejected his people. So I encourage listeners to really check out Romans 11. That's a really good one to read if, if you have questions about you know if God's done with Israel or not.

Speaker 2: 31:08

But you know when, as we read these scriptures where God's promising to return his people, you know why is he doing that and it's because he's a covenant keeping God and he made a promise to Abram and his descendants, before he even changed his name to Abraham, that they would inherit the land. And in Genesis 15, verse 18, that's where we find that promise. That's where we find where he makes that covenant and he says to your descendants, I will give this land. And then he lists out. You know the parameters of that land and and from from Egypt to the river great river, the Euphrates, and and so. But what's interesting about that? Um, abraham was in a. He was in a sleep. The Lord put him in a deep sleep when he made that covenant.

Speaker 2: 32:04

And so back in that time in biblical times, when two parties wanted to come together to make a covenant, they, there was a process where they would, they would cut animals in half and they would split those halves, and then the two people making the covenant would walk between those pieces to make an oath, and so there was the shedding of blood, and, and by walking through those split animals, each person was saying that they were, they were making an oath, a very solemn commitment, and that if they broke that agreement, they would meet that same end, basically, as the sacrificed animal. So, but what we see with Abraham is that God alone walks through those halves, and it wasn't him and Abraham. And so this signifies and this shows that God took responsibility for fulfilling the terms of the covenant, and it's, you know, it wasn't up to the faithfulness of Abraham and his descendants in Israel. It was God's unconditional, irrevocable covenant that he made, and so he's the one that's holding up this covenant, and so it's not based on what Israel does or doesn't do. I mean if, if God were to break his covenant that he made with them, what's to say? That he wouldn't and can't break his covenant with us? Right, and so, um, yeah, anyways, going back to um, some other things, just you know how God says he's he's not going to go back on his word. He's not a man that he should lie, and so that's that's why he's bringing them back is because he is faithful to his word, he is faithful to his covenant and he watches over his word to make sure that it is performed and also when they're restored to their land.

Speaker 2: 34:16

Ezekiel 36 speaks of a spiritual restoration that will take place, so that first there's a physical restoration and then there's a spiritual restoration that takes place, and this is for the sake of God's holy name. You can read that in Ezekiel 36, where he's doing it for the sake of his holy name, so that the nations will know that he is the Lord, and this spiritual restoration will ultimately impact the whole world, and so it's. Really. We see how important that is, and how important it is to be praying for those that are making Aliyah and um for the Lord's word to be fulfilled in their lives, because it doesn't just impact them, it impacts us. It's it's Jew and Gentile, it's that one new man, um, that we see where that's talked about in Ephesians, um, and it's. It's not that one is better than the other. You know, we need the Old Testament and the New Testament, we need the roots and the shoots, and yeah, exactly, and so it's, we need both the Jew and the Gentile. It's that one new man. And so that spiritual restoration and the way in which he's going to do it. There's going to be no denying that the Lord is the one that's doing it and making the way for them to come back. And so you know what is our role. It's going back to Isaiah 49, 22, where he's beckoning to the Gentiles, and so at Operation Exodus and also Ebenezer, operation Exodus, prayer is the foundation of what we do, and we carry them home through our prayers.

Speaker 2: 36:08

So at Operation Exodus, we have daily prayer calls during the weekday, and then there's monthly prayer calls, and we pray that there would be a stirring in the hearts of the Jews to respond to God's call to return to the land, and we pray for their specific needs as well. We have staff that work directly with the Jewish people that are making Aliyah. They help them, give them practical support and help them through that process, because it can be very daunting and overwhelming, and so we've got staff that help with that and then so, if there's specific obstacles that they're running up against, you know we pray for those specific needs and we encourage others to join us in those prayers and to carry the Jewish people home through prayer. But, again, like I said, we offer financial support to them as well, and we're a Christian nonprofit, but we are able to help them through our finances and then we carry them home by just deepening that awareness and others, by sharing God's promises that he will return them back to their land.

Speaker 2: 37:25

So, and that's part of what I do, so, I completely lost track of what your original question was.

Speaker 1: 37:34

I'm just imagining as you're. I'm such a visionary. You know a family going back like do you have any stories that you can share of maybe a family that's been called back, like a real time story? I think sometimes that's really helpful for people to hear maybe a story of a family that has been called back and you've either. You know Operation Exist. You're okay with sharing that story. Is that something that you're able to share on here?

Speaker 2: 38:35

careful with you know, just for protection, especially with the anti-Semitism that we're seeing unfold, and just honoring the privacy of those that we work with. Yeah, and I know there are definitely. There's hundreds of examples that I'm sure the staff that have been working there a lot longer than I have could probably share, but I will say that without you know violating any kind of privacy. Yeah, of course, and yeah, he is. He is returning them and we have seen an increase since October 7th of an increase, and we see a lot in the European nations. We have seen an increase of Jews making aliyah from America. I believe we will see more with the increase of anti-Semitism, but he is making a way, he is speaking to his people and there is a stirring in their hearts, um, and so we are seeing that and you know we have seen those obstacles be removed and you know whether it be, you know, documents being held up or, um, whatever the case may be with the beer, because there's a lot of, there can be a lot of red tape, and so we do see how our prayers are effective and they are removing those obstacles on the alley, all highway, and and um, I actually I've got isaiah 49 open right here where it says I will turn all my mountains into roads and my highways will be raised up. See, they will come from afar, some from the north, some from the west, some from the region of aswan.

Speaker 2: 40:27

And so he is. He is clearing the highway and he is going ahead of them and he is preparing the way. So we are seeing that and I can always check back and see if there's a specific example that I would be able to share, if there's something I am able to share with a little bit more specific. But I can say just in general, we are seeing and they I think the amazing thing is there a lot of them are amazed that like, oh, you want to help us and you know there are people out there that don't hate us and want to help us and support us, and I think that really, more than anything, touches their heart, that there are people who do want to bless them and and we don't want anything in return, we just want to obey the Lord and we just want to walk in obedience and do what he's called us to do, no strings attached.

Speaker 1: 41:27

Yeah, it's unheard of really, especially in this world, right, I'm sure it's almost shocking at times for people to be like, yeah, you want to actually help me and it's not like just a small thing, it's a journey yeah absolutely a big journey.

Speaker 1: 41:46

I can only imagine, um, I was going to ask you about the obstacles that we're trying to you know, come in the way, and I love that. You, about the obstacles that we're trying to, you know, come in the way, and I love that you know the Lord is bringing, like supernatural the word I used earlier when we were talking before this like decimating right, decimating obstacles to make a way right.

Speaker 2: 42:06

Yes, absolutely yeah. He says he will be the one to do it over and over. We just get to partner with him. And there's actually a scripture in Micah this is one of my favorite ones in Micah 2 that says, verse 12, I will surely gather all of you, o Jacob. I will surely bring together the remnant of Israel. I will bring them together like sheep in a pen, like a flock in its pasture. So this is his work, this is his holy work, and we're just, you know, fortunate enough to be able to partner with him as Gentiles. And yeah, it's a huge blessing, huge honor, very humbling huge honor, very humbling yes.

Speaker 1: 43:18

Well, I love that that door opened for you. What a huge answer to prayer. I know like so. Operation Exodus how long has Operation Exodus been around?

Speaker 2: 43:25

So back in 1991 is when it was founded, the Ebenezer Operation Exodus, and so that's our international office and they're headquartered in Israel and so they began actually taking ships from like Ukraine and Russia, like European.

Speaker 2: 43:50

That's where we saw a huge wave of Aliyah in the 90s and we actually have a staff person here in the US that was part of those voyages and those ships and bringing Jews from Odessa down to Israel and she's with us now in our USA operation and so she's been doing this work for I think 30 years now and she's the one that has the direct contact with the Jewish people, helping them day in and day out with their questions, and just the requirements can be a little tricky and they can often change, and so she helps navigate that with them and she also has another person working with her helping her, as she, you know, processes their app, helps process their application for assistance through Operation Exodus. Now they also get assistance from the Jewish agency, I believe, and we coordinate with them. But as far as the USA branch I should know this I cannot remember when the USA branch was established. I'm wanting to say it was in the early 2000s. I need to follow up on that. That's terrible. I should know that.

Speaker 1: 45:18

You know me, I'm very curious. So how many? How many people work for Operation Excess? And then there's a lot of volunteers as well, correct, well, correct.

Speaker 2: 45:31

Yeah, so we have a smaller staff. I work remotely, but our staff is smaller, I would say less than 10. And then we have area representatives throughout the country that go and speak to churches, bringing awareness to the work of Aliyah and speaking to small groups. Also, you know, bringing our information into the Jewish community and letting them know that this is another resource available to them should they need it or know anyone that's wanting to make Aliyah. And then we have Excuse me, I believe offices or representatives, I should say, in over 50 nations of the world. I don't know exactly how many representatives, I just know that they're throughout over 50 nations and there's they've got them in Australia, new Zealand, canada, mexico. I mean there's, they're all over, so I'm missing out a lot of them, but yeah, so there's.

Speaker 2: 46:46

I mean you know I think you had mentioned earlier to me that you've got listeners in over 49 countries that you've got listeners in over 49 countries, and so more than likely chances are there is an Ebenezer Operation Exodus branch in their country that if they know someone that is wanting to make Ali out, they can get them connected to those people and those resources. Or you may even have a Jewish person on here listening and they may not know about these resources available to them in their country. And yeah, there's a website operationexodususaorg. And then the Ebenezer website. If you go to the Ebenezer Operation Exodus website, there's a link at the top that says In your Country, I believe. If you go to the Ebenezer Operation Exodus website, there's a link at the top that says in your country, I believe, and you can click on that link and it'll show you know the different countries and it'll get you connected to that and that's ebenezer-oeorg. Okay.

Speaker 1: 47:51

And I'll be sure to have these links in the show notes for you guys to to go back to and click on Um. So have you guys found that? I mean you have these I'm seeing like boots on the ground and all of these countries, um, is there like an awareness in more countries than other countries? Um, that make sense, like kind of what I'm going?

Speaker 2: 48:16

after. Yeah, I, I think I'm following you. Yeah, so, um, all y'all is one of those things. It's, it's really, I think, not talked about a whole lot. Um, which is what we're trying to do is is bring that awareness.

Speaker 2: 48:34

I will say I think in the European countries we have seen more Aliyah and there is more of an awareness. I believe, especially as we see things unfolding before us. Since October 7th, there was an increase in I think I've heard the Jewish agency mentioned this that there was a definite uptick in applications that were opened Doesn't necessarily mean that they actually made Aliyah, but there's, you have to start with the application process and and so there was a huge uptick with applications that were opened. But, yeah, I, I would say that, yeah, your European countries were. And you know, it's no surprise what we're seeing in the streets, what we see on the news with the anti-Semitismism, and what we saw in amsterdam last year. And, um, what was it? Amsterdam? Yeah, I believe it was amsterdam like where, literally they were hunted. The jewish people were hunted in the streets after the soccer game and it was, um, I don't know if you recall hearing and seeing that, but um, I don't watch the news so I feel like I'm I don't.

Speaker 1: 49:55

I don't always hear everything yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2: 49:58

so there, yeah, there was an incident last year after a soccer game where, um, I mean it was pre-planned and pre-meditated, um, I mean it just these horrific images of jews being hunted down in the street and um, so yeah, the these, some of these European nations, that where Islam is really taking over and don't make make no mistake, I'm not we need to pray for them too, for the Muslims, for their eyes to be open to the man in white. You know there's multitudes of testimonies of, of Muslims who have come to know Yeshua and they all say you know, I had a dream or I had a vision of a man in white, you know, which I just love. So we pray for them, for their eyes to be opened as well to the truth and for their, for them, to be spiritually awakened as well. But, yeah, we see, in some of these nations where Islam is really taking hold and taking root, there is an increase in Aliyah from those nations. I don't know if that answered your question as far as awareness.

Speaker 1: 51:11

Absolutely. I mean, it's just amazing work that you're doing and I'm like I cannot wait to hear more about your journey, because I know that there's so much more that he's going to do through you, through your voice. As the listeners here, I'm sure you can hear like Amber has such a powerful voice and I believe that it's going to reach the multitudes through you, bringing awareness, through you stepping in, saying your full. Yes, you've already given it, but there's more. Right, right? Do you have, like, have you had any more dreams about this? Like what this might look like for you to step into that more in the future? Like what is what's in the future for you?

Speaker 2: 51:56

Well, with my role with Operation Exodus, I'm the next generation's outreach coordinator, and so this generation, we really want to bring the awareness to this upcoming generation to help carry the work of Aliyah, because many of our intercessors and our area representatives you know some of them are getting a little older and slowing down or, you know, have gone on to be with the Lord and so really want to for this mantle to be passed on to this next generation and for them to. I mean, only the Lord can call them to this work it's. You know I can't, I can share the word and I can bring awareness, but ultimately it has to be something that the Lord calls them to and for there to be a work done in their heart. And so that's our goal with this new position that I'm in is to reach this next generation and to bring awareness. And so I'm hoping to speak to college students and which say a prayer, because you know there's a lot going on in these college campuses with the propaganda.

Speaker 2: 53:21

I'm sorry.

Speaker 1: 53:22

You're the girl for it.

Speaker 2: 53:24

Yes, praise God, help me, lord. Yeah, just with everything that we see on college campuses and the rhetoric, the propaganda and just the lies that I mean, I hear some of these things, even within Christian circles, even things that I've heard, it's like, oh wow, that's really destructive. But I can see where people buy it because they don't know the truth, buy it because they don't know the truth. They've not maybe taken the time to really do the research or, you know, specifically speaking to Christian circles, they've not. There needs to be a revelation in God's word, and so, um, that is, that's the next chapter.

Speaker 2: 54:10

The next step for me is to um, is to kind of pioneer that, and um, uh, reach this generation with, with an understanding of God's covenant with Israel. He's not done with them and he is going to return them to the land, and so, um, yeah, just just, it's, it's a hot topic, it's a, you know, not a, not a popular one for sure Um, but you know it's um, it's what the word says, you know, and I'm, I'm, I'm, at the end of the day, I give an account to him and you know what he's called me to do and and what his word says.

Speaker 1: 54:54

I.

Speaker 2: 54:55

I can't be swayed by the whims and the you know opinion of man and what they think about Israel. And I'm not saying that Israel is perfect, I'm not saying that they're not above reproach. But at the end of the day, god's covenant is everlasting and his covenant with us through Jesus is everlasting.

Speaker 1: 55:18

So yeah, we take him at his word.

Speaker 2: 55:23

Yes, we take him at his word.

Speaker 1: 55:26

That's the key, right, mm? Hmm, yeah, well, I just love your heart. I'm imagining somebody like being stirred, like you were that day reading Isaiah 4922. And how, like, if they're being stirred to step in and help, potentially through Operation Exodus or any other means, like, are there ways that people can step in and help? Are there, you know, opportunities to you know a job, or ways to like volunteer through Operation Exit? What would that look like for somebody who's like yeah, I want to do this, I want to help out.

Speaker 2: 56:06

Yeah, well, good question. So yeah, they can reach out to us through our website, they can. I can even give you my email address and, if you, want to link.

Speaker 1: 56:19

It's going to ask the best way for people to contact you anyways too.

Speaker 2: 56:23

Yeah, they can contact me through email. And then, of course, if they go directly to our website and there's a place where they can say I want to volunteer, I want to learn more, and they can fill that out and it will go to our outreach director, adrian, and they can become an area representative and wherever they're at in the United States and wherever they're at in the United States and they can, you know, do. Essentially what we're doing is we're going to churches and we're speaking to small groups, whatever door that the Lord opens for them, to speak about Operation Exodus and God's work of bringing His people, his sons and daughters, back to Israel. And they can, if they feel led to give financially, they can. It's a, it's a nonprofit they can get, so they can donate, they can plant seeds through that way, obviously, we're that's between them and the Lord. You know we're not, you know that's. Yeah, that's that's their business, between them and the Lord.

Speaker 2: 57:28

But that's one they can, one way they can help. Or if they want to join us in prayer I think I mentioned earlier, there are we have weekly I'm sorry. Every weekday we have morning prayer and then once a month we have corporate I'm sorry, the daily prayer is also corporate. It's by phone and then we have monthly Zoom prayer calls so they can join us as a prayer partner. Or, if they want, if they're not able to join in on those prayer calls that we have, they can, you know, they can still sign up to be a prayer partner and just pray for the work of Aliyah, and they can sign up for our prayer newsletters and and, um you know, see specific prayer points that we have. You know, if there's a specific need that a person that we're working with has, they can specifically be praying for those things. Um, so, yes, so by being an area representative, by giving financial seeds or through prayer support, that's how they can join in on this work.

Speaker 1: 58:36

And.

Speaker 2: 58:37

I mean. One thing I want to say about prayer is don't ever underestimate the power of your prayer. And just because you don't see, maybe, the fruit of what you are praying for, doesn't mean that there's not something that's happening because we don't know what God is doing in their hearts. We may not always, on this side, see the fruit of our prayers, but God is working through them and and it's, I know for me, sometimes you know, when you don't always see the immediate results, you think, well, are my prayers effective? And we know from his word that they are effective. Um and so, yeah, I I just a little note of encouragement there, for for people who think, well, I mean, what are my prayers going to do? You know that doesn't feel like much it is. It really is. So Absolutely.

Speaker 1: 59:33

Thank you for sharing that with you know, again, I always think of the one who's listening, so I'm imagining that that might have been something that somebody was wondering like do I actually are my prayers effective?

Speaker 1: 59:46

You know, and I've had times in my life where I mean it's years of prayer and not only me praying but having intercessors come alongside and it's just, you know, it's about timing and it's about there's just so many elements that we won't know until we get to heaven. Like the fullness, right, yeah, yeah, I like to think of you know. Like the fullness, right, yeah, yeah, I like to think of you.

Speaker 1: 1:00:09

Know the bamboo plant at times as well. Like the this talking about roots and shoots, the roots have to go so deep and then all of a sudden, I don't even know how long it takes, but it takes a while, and then all of a sudden those shoots, like they go, they go accelerating, and I see that for everything that he's doing in your life. So, thank you so much for sharing today. I would love to have you back again another time as I, as we close today again, would you be open to sharing with that one person any other words of encouragement or wisdom you felt led to speak over them, and would you pray us out today?

Speaker 2: 1:00:52

Yeah, absolutely yeah. I just encourage you know whoever's listening, that weight may feel endless and you may feel like you're going backwards and you may see other people going forward in their calling and you may see the Lord opening doors for them. And here you are Nothing's happening, it's crickets. But I assure you the Lord is working and that may also be a test too of how you're going to respond. Are you going to rejoice with your brother or sister in the Lord, where the Lord is doing amazing things for them and he's opening the door for them? Or are you going to and with brothers and sisters that I saw the Lord doing things for, where I had nothing to show for my prayers and my, my waiting in it? And it was, it was refining and it was, it was pure, he was purifying me. So I encourage you, if you're in that season of waiting it's not forever. It may feel like it, um, and the Lord will do for you what you're seeing him do in others um, just be faithful to him and ultimately, your calling is to him first and foremost. Um that that he is your calling. Jesus is your calling, and whatever he's called to you to is secondary, and so don't allow that calling or that. Oh God, I want what's next. Don't let that take place of your relationship with him and just enjoy that time with him and just really get to know him and get in that secret place with him, because there's nothing like it, that time with the Lord, there's nothing like being in covenant relationship with him. So I just encourage you in that. So, lord, thank you for this.

Speaker 2: 1:02:59

This time together to to share about your holy work of Aliyah and how you are going to bring your sons and daughters back and those that have been scattered, you will regather them and you are faithful to your word. And if you're faithful to your word to the Jewish people, how much more faithful are you to us, those that have been grafted in into the olive, into the olive tree and olive branch? Lord, we, just we thank you for your faithfulness and that, through these journeys, the process that you have us in, lord, you are, you are refining us, because you know that where you're taking us, there are certain things we can't bring with us into that next chapter, into that next season, and you truly do exceedingly, abundantly more than we could ever ask or think. You are better to us than we deserve. Lord, you've been so faithful to me, even when I've been unfaithful and have not served you well and have not loved you.

Speaker 2: 1:04:00

And, lord, I know there are probably listeners who may have found themselves in that place of you. Know, maybe they once walked with you, but they walked away from you and they're bound in shame and condemnation. And I just break off that, that shame and the lies of the enemy that says that they've gone too far, they've done too much. They'll never be healed, they'll never be whole. Lord, if you did it for me, if you set me free, if you got me out of the pit, lord, you are no respecter of persons and you will do it for them.

Speaker 2: 1:04:32

And I just speak life and freedom over your sons and daughters that are listening, and I thank you that you're going to bring restoration and bring healing to them and you're going to take them to places and you've got callings on their lives, things that they can't even fathom. And so, lord, I just thank you for this, the journey that you allow us to walk in with you, and I just bless the listeners, those that are listening. I just thank you that you are, you are with them and that you do hear them. You hear their prayers and yeah, lord, we just thank you, we love you. We love you In Yeshua's name Amen.

Speaker 1: 1:05:14

Amen. Thank you, amber. I am going to close with the Hope Unlocked anchoring verse. It's May the God of hope fill you with all joy and peace in believing so that, by the power of the Holy Spirit, you may abound in hope, and that's Romans 15, 13. So thank you for being a brave voice that is setting many free, and I will be sure to add all of Amber's contact information website links into the show notes, and I will be back with another episode next week. Thank you again, amber. Have a great day listeners. Thank you again, amber. Have a great day listeners. Thank you.