Breakthrough Healing with Holly Misener: Supernatural Wholeness, Freedom & His Healing House Miracles

In this powerful episode of Hope Unlocked, Kristin Kurtz welcomes Holly Misener, founder of His Healing House, to share her journey of faith, family, and pioneering spirit-led wellness. Holly launched a business-ministry that addresses the root causes of illness — combining deliverance, inner healing, nutrition response testing, somatic bodywork, and therapeutic services like red light therapy, salt therapy, PEMF mats, and so much more. Discover how God brings total healing — body, mind, and spirit. This may be the breakthrough you’ve been praying for.

Holly's Contact Info:

Website - www.hishealinghouse.org

Not local to His Healing House? Holly offers virtual inner healing sessions for those outside the area. Visit the website HERE to learn more and book a session.

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Chapters

• 0:00 Introduction to Hope Unlocked
• 2:44 Holly's Family Health Journey
• 11:24 What Makes His Healing House Unique
• 18:31 Client Testimonials and Root Causes
• 31:45 Understanding Fight or Flight Response
• 40:14 Somatic Healing and Trauma Release
• 44:54 Therapeutic Modalities and Services
• 54:14 Nutrition Response Testing Explained
• 57:36 Closing Encouragement and Prayer

Transcript

Speaker 1: 0:16

Welcome to the Hope Unlocked podcast. I'm your host, kristen Kurtz, and I'm also the founder of New Wings Coaching. I help and empower wildhearted and adventurous women of faith feeling caged and stuck, unlock their true purpose and potential, break free from limitations and thrive with confidence, courage and hope. If you're curious to learn more about coaching with me, head to newwingscoachingnet and be sure to explore the show notes for ways to connect with me further. Get ready to dive in as we uncover empowering keys and insights in this episode. So tune in and let's unlock hope together. Welcome to the Hope Unlocked podcast. I'm Kristen Kurtz, your host. I pray this episode is like a holy IV of hope for your soul. Please help me.

Speaker 1: 0:55

Welcome Holly Meisner to the show. I am so thrilled to have her on today. I don't even know what I can say to start this out, to just honor her and the ways that the Lord has truly brought her on my path as of about six months ago, and it was through I think it was through LinkedIn, to be honest with you, which is not my favorite place to be, but we show up places that he leads us and through that first meeting I was just like, oh my gosh, this girl's on fire and I want to know more about her. And through that he led me to experience just amazing spiritual and physical healing through her business and I would call it a business tree, his healing house. So I want to let you take this away. Holly, could you share a little bit about yourself before we get started?

Speaker 2: 1:49

Yeah, thank you, kristen. I know it's kind of funny that we met on LinkedIn, I know, and then connected, had a connect call and then had mutual friends and the Lord kept bringing our paths back together. So it's an honor to be on your podcast and it's an honor just to get to know you more. Yeah, let's see a little bit about myself. I live in Lake Elmo. I do own my business. I love that business ministry. What did you call it? Business, a business tree? Yeah, that's like a good word. You should point that.

Speaker 1: 2:22

I think I got it from somebody else.

Speaker 2: 2:33

I can't take credit, but I like using it. Yes, that's a good word. I have four kids. I live in Lake Elmo. I own my wellness company called His Healing House. We opened a year ago and absolutely love what I do here. Um, I love um, wellness, prevention, healing, all those things and so I opened the company. Actually, my passion for my company, a mission for the company, really came out of my own family's personal story of not living well and um and not thriving and living in freedom. So I have four kids and two of my four kids have really serious, complex medical issues. I'm a 21-year-old well, let's see 22, 20, 17, and 14. And real quick.

Speaker 2: 3:19

But just to give an idea of my family's health journey that brought me into a wellness company is my 19-year-old now, or 20 or 20 year old he. When he was 18 months old, he was diagnosed with a rare spine defect that was causing his spine to collapse onto his chest cavity and told us that he, uh, without major intervention he wouldn't live over the age of 10 because he wouldn't have room for his heart and lungs to grow. Um, we, we did his first major surgery and he had surgery every three months for about five years, and then there was complications. So then it spread out to every six months by the time we got to 10, the good news is is that it wasn't life-threatening anymore. They got enough room in his heart and lungs. But so many surgeries, so much damage on his um, on his back, that he had a for paralysis, oh my gosh. So then from there we were on a long journey of just making sure that he his spine wouldn't get damaged, and his last major surgery was in 2020. It was a success and um, and so he's he's doing well. He's off at college, living his best life. But, as a mom, it was a journey. It was a journey to walk him through some life threatening things for about 10 years and then the risk of his him being able to walk.

Speaker 2: 4:34

And then, in addition, my youngest her name is Ellie. She was born. I found out when I was pregnant with her that she was missing part of her right cerebellum in her brain, so she had her first brain surgery the day she was born, and then she has had eight brain surgeries in her little short life, 14 years, and um, she's doing well too. Uh, she had some of those surgeries. Most of them, all eight of them, except the first one, were emergent. Um and she. But she's doing well, but she is globally delayed and she's vision impaired. She has a little seeing eye cane, but she is just a walking joy, she is I've met her.

Speaker 1: 5:11

I'm like better yes, he just loves.

Speaker 2: 5:14

I know it seems like joy I know she thinks she runs the business here, so I I can tell, yeah, she, she, and she's a little salesperson like she. I didn't know she took a stack of my business cards to her school like a hundred cards and she gave them to everybody and I had no idea. I picked her up one day and I said something like oh, we all know who you are because my mom, my mom Amazing.

Speaker 1: 5:41

She's like his healing house evangelist she really is, she's so cute.

Speaker 2: 5:46

So, out of all of that sickness, all of that hardship, all of that medical trauma, I was on a mission, one to save my kids lives to the doctors.

Speaker 2: 5:55

But I felt like there was their health was kind of falling through the cracks in other ways that weren't life-threatening. So their digestive issues they had so much you know, toxic chemical exposure, metal exposure, so many things. And so about 10 years ago that's when I started really looking at holistic ways and really whole person approaches to bring healing to people. Yeah and um, then I did that, started living that lifestyle 10 years ago and then had an opportunity to work at a holistic company, absolutely loved it and then opened up my own company at a holistic company, absolutely loved it and then opened up my own company. And so I really feel like I'm on mission to help people either prevent, prevention, prevent some of the things that people are dealing with in their health from a holistic approach, and also really walk alongside people who are dealing with things that maybe they feel like the doctors are like oh, we can't help you with anything. They've tried every approach. And it's interesting we see miracles every day. People walk in and get them.

Speaker 1: 6:49

Yeah Well, I'm actually a walking miracle myself, like I'm still in the process with you, but, um, you know, we had a deliverance session last Friday.

Speaker 1: 6:59

That like whole level of freedom, um, I I've shared with somebody recently. Like I feel like this is kind of like I heard my spirit, like the final countdown, like this has been such a journey for me to come to this point, but I would love for you to share. So I love pioneers, I love people who are trailblazing and I really feel like you, part of why the first conversation we had I was like, oh my gosh, like I would love for you to share what you're doing because it is so different. You know, we know that there's a lot of places out there that do get after Rick Haas and I've been immersed in some of those places and I love researching and do my own. You know, I've taken myself on a journey sometimes, too, and been like, okay, well, maybe I'll try this or this and I would love for you to share like how, how are you different? Like what is it? What does it look like for somebody to step in your doors and walk this out with his healing house?

Speaker 2: 7:57

Well, I mean, I really believe in marketplace ministry, so I own my company, but really this is my ministry and I think people are going to walk into my business and they're walking in to get physical healing through our services. But honestly, I really do believe there's a spiritual and emotional aspect to healing and because I partner with the Holy Spirit in all that we do, you know, people are walking in and we're able to. You're right. You're right like, yes, there's some physical things, like, let's say, someone has a digestion issue. Yeah, they need help to get that moving through nutritionally and supplement or whatever.

Speaker 2: 8:32

But honestly, sometimes our bowels hold on to stuff because we're tight and we're tense and there's trauma or there's spiritual things and just the lord has given me and my other colleague, um stephanie we both see clients here and just this beautiful ability to really have discernment and, with the gifts of the spirit, to see um, yeah, this is a body thing, this is a nutritional thing, but this is a spiritual thing, this is a spiritual thing and we have resources to help you if you're wanting it and people want it and people feel like, yeah, the doctor told me nothing's wrong, nothing's wrong, nothing's.

Speaker 2: 9:04

They can't find it, but something's wrong and they don't feel heard, they don't feel validated. And if you're only going to deal with it from a body standpoint although sometimes it works we're different because I think we bring in the Holy Spirit and we bring in the Holy Spirit to help guide us, both when we're in the room with patients Now, not every patient is open or wants that they get to decide, but we're coming with that heart of like Holy Spirit. What is this? What does this client need today? And give us wisdom and discernment, word of knowledge, word of wisdom to treat our patients.

Speaker 1: 9:35

Yes, I mean, I like I said I've been a recipient of this and it's been mind blowing and so, beyond what I even expected, I guess you could, like I was expectant but I didn't know the fullness and brevity of, like what I would experience. Um, could you share maybe a testimonial, without you know, obviously without exposing client confidentiality could you share maybe a testimonial of somebody that you've walked with, um, maybe even yourself, like what does this look like for you to really walk this out? Um and experience freedom on a level that maybe you didn't expect? You know expect for whether it's a client or for yourself?

Speaker 2: 10:50

oh my gosh, there's so many, um, I don't know, what do you want? Do you want, like, um, a physical testimonial?

Speaker 1: 10:57

yeah, I mean whatever is coming to mind first, I think, um, somebody might be like, well what? Because when I came to your ribbon cutting which was a whole other story that the Lord led me to the ribbon cutting I'd never been to a ribbon cutting before Steph actually shared a little bit about her testimonial about hormones, and hormones were really, like, highlighted to me at that point. So hearing her testimonial was actually part of, you know, by the bullet, the lamb, the word of our testimony. So maybe somebody is listening today and they're like well, what, what could I experience by going there? What is a testimonial, right?

Speaker 2: 11:35

I have so many obviously, um, well, that's, jeff, sure hurts, but, um, you know a lot of what we do because we get to the root cause. So we deal with food, food and sensitivities, metal exposure, toxic chemicals, um, scar tissues, pandemic stuff. And then we deal with immune things and in the immune things we deal with a lot of mold and parasites and parasites are kind of like oh my gosh, what's a parasite? Yeah, no-transcript. Because once we got her nervous system stable and the parasites out, her anxiety went away and she had just normal, like I'm a mom and you know those are things that are debilitating for people, especially moms, where they're feeling you know things, and moms that beat themselves up there's high, anxious, worried about all these things. And she is just an amazing advocate for us because she's like oh my gosh, I was going down all these roads trying to fix my anxiety. Yeah, it was really for that one, it was just a parasitical thing.

Speaker 2: 12:57

Another client he's got oh my gosh, he's in his sixties and he's an amazing guy and he um has, uh, he's just wrecked his body and his life from athletic standpoint. He was an athlete, d1 athlete in college and then he's older but he's lived like an athlete his whole life. So he's been hard on his body, lots of surgeries, lots of spine pain, joint pain, all the things, and he too tested for parasites. And um, he and he too tested for parasites. And um, he didn't tell me that he was passing parasites. We asked people. But he also went down to mayo and he said um, he asked the mayo doctor. He did a three-day executive physical at mayo and he asked the mayo doctor. He said hey, do I have parasites? Do you know anything about this? The mayo doctor was like what are you talking about? No, you don't have parasites. And the mayo doctor said who told you have parasites? And he's like oh, this girl up in Lake Elm, well, me, the doctor's like she doesn't know what she's talking about.

Speaker 2: 13:46

Well, my client said are you serious? I paid all this money for this executive physical. I saw myself pass parasites and all my joint pain is gone and I went to her and got rid of the parasites and got physically better and I'm not in chronic pain and I came here and spent all this money and now you're saying I didn't even have parasites. He literally left me. Oh, he came up here, came and saw me and told me the story and I was like, yeah, like people are walking around with things that are getting missed and falling through the cracks and it's amazing. So we deal with a lot of, for sure, hormone things like people you know, because you know the whole. We look at your body as a whole but you're getting to the root of which organs are under stress for the hormones and then getting your body support and removing what doesn't belong. Just get people well.

Speaker 1: 14:34

Yeah Well, could you, could you share a little bit more about like parasites?

Speaker 2: 14:40

Because somebody might be like what is she?

Speaker 1: 14:41

talking about like, and they could go on google and try to search it out, and I feel like you know the one, you know I. I always say I do this for the one, and I feel like there's one person listening today that's like oh, what is anymore?

Speaker 2: 14:53

like I don't, please tell me. Yeah, well, parasites are super common and if you do, go on google, you're gonna go down a rabbit trail and you'll be like, oh my gosh, do I have a mini? Yeah, you probably do, because if you go to a different country, a travel Europe, anywhere they do as a standard medical procedure. We'll do a parasite cleanse twice a year, because we all know now that our body has a living microbiome in our gut and there's living things and living bacteria, all the things, and so, of course, parasites will want to live in our body as well. You can get them from eating raw or undercooked food, sushi. You can get them from walking barefoot outside. You can get them from traveling internationally. You can get them from your loving pet that's licking you and loving you and doing all these things, and so there's ways to get them.

Speaker 2: 15:39

It's just we never get them out, and so half the time I would say 80% of my clients have parasites. I've had them, everybody has them. It's no big deal and you just want to get them out. So parasites feed on sugar and they hide behind metals, and so many of us have metal exposure in our body just because our body's not detoxing it appropriately and we're all eating a high-sugar diet. So I say to some people I'm like, well, if you make a happy home for them and you're feeding them, you just want to get them out. So when people get them out, those parasites are releasing toxins, excreting toxins in your body that make you feel horrible, and they're also, you know, creating tons of symptoms that, if it's a parasite thing, oftentimes people feel better right away.

Speaker 1: 16:20

Wow. And you said, like, for this gal, it was within a few weeks that her anxiety lifted. Yep, wow. And was she on like anxiety medication at that point? No, she didn't come down that trail. That's good, okay, yeah, cause you think of how many gosh. I heard a statistic recently that was it like. 70% of high school students are like have anxiety and depression. Would you? What would you attribute that to? There could be many things.

Speaker 2: 16:51

I don't know if I'd narrow it down to one it's just parasites is one that's never addressed, and so you know it could be. Your lifestyle choices could be. I really do believe your diet affects mental health. Your lifestyle choices could be. I really do believe your diet affects mental health. It could be trauma, where you know trauma, of course, um, we're trauma informed here, which means that, um, we're very aware of certain ways to be sensitive to trauma and the nervous system and calming it and grounding it. Um, but it also could just be parasites.

Speaker 2: 17:18

And so, while, because we take a whole person approach mind, body, spirit we're going to look at your body, see if it's parasites. We're going to look at your mind, you know, are you, are you taking your thoughts captive? You know where are you at on your emotions, do you need support? And then, from a spiritual standpoint, you know the spiritual needs that you have is which we do inner healing and deliverance. From the emotional standpoint, we do somatic body work because we believe trauma stays in the body and it needs to be released, and so I don't know for each person, when they come in, from a mental health standpoint, what could be affecting them, but I know that I can at least walk alongside people and say, well, let's see what is needed and offer resources so we can support them on their journey.

Speaker 1: 18:01

Yeah, Well, it's interesting, you know, as you mentioned inner healing, deliverance, I was somewhere last night that somebody didn't even know what that was. So could you share a little bit more about that, Because there might be some people you know I would say in most of the churches they don't go there, they don't talk about it. There isn't that focus to help people be further set free. Could you share a little bit more about you know maybe what that looks like?

Speaker 2: 18:30

Help, maybe the listener understand what inner healing and deliverance looks like from your standpoint well, um, yeah, it is really a hot topic and I think from a biblical standpoint we have to look at what does the bible say and where do we stand on it? And you know, we know ephesians 6, that we are in a war and that we're not in war of flesh and blood, but spirits and principalities, and how that looks for different churches and denominations. I grew up very fundamental conservative upbringing and then I didn't I didn't know what any of this was either, but I was living dealing with things that nobody talked about, that I felt like there was things oppressing or things you know happening that I didn't have words for, didn't have understanding for, and it felt like it was more than just Ephesians six, like oh, there's, you know, enemies coming and just I don't know. I grew up in an environment where just kind of talked about that happens, but we didn't know how to get really get rid of it. So I really dug deep into the word of God. I'm like well, christian, I'm a Christian, I love Jesus, I love Jesus my whole life. How you know, when you look at the original word in the Bible, in Mark, and they talk about that, it's not you're possessed or anything, it's that there is a demonic oppression and it happens to Christians and when we get the opportunity to say, hey, we can get rid of that and there's a way. And of course the enemy would oppress Christians because we're the threat, not the Christians. And you look at Jesus in the Bible, like in Mark, like he went into the synagogues and he cast out demons. So it wasn't just the crowd that had demons cast out, it was in the church as well.

Speaker 2: 20:04

So I believe we're mind, obviously, like in the Bible, mind, body, spirit, when we say yes to Jesus. Our spirit is secure in the Lord, our salvation is secure. The enemy can't get into our spirit. The Holy say yes to Jesus. Our spirit is secure in the Lord, our salvation is secure. The enemy can't get into our spirit. The Holy Spirit dwells within us. We are safe and protected. But when we come out of alignment, of that covering of the blood of Jesus over our spirit and our body comes out of alignment, we get out of that covering and we open ourselves up for demonic attachment or attack at us and and then also our body can be oppressed. We could have a demonic spirit attacking us and in us I believe, and um, and so the best thing to do is just to cast it out and just say get out, get out. You cannot live in this body, you cannot be it, you cannot have it, this is not your home. So the Holy Spirit is in us. We are safe and secure.

Speaker 2: 20:53

Sometimes there's like, well, how can you have the Holy Spirit and divine at the same time? Well, because our bodies can have things too, and so I really believe we can cast them out, and I have seen people get freedom over freedom. You know, there's some things that we need to disciple, you know. And then there's some things we just need to cast and we're good in the church of discipling people and we should. Then there's some things we just need to cast and we're good in the church of discipling people and we should, but we forget, just cast it out, and so sometimes you can get instant freedom.

Speaker 2: 21:17

That someone thought was a discipleship issue, and they, they're in the word, they're doing the things, but there's still all these oppressive thoughts, all of these hard things that you know what. You just gotta tell that thing to leave. So that's what I think deliverance is, from my standpoint on it and then from inner healing. So the next question would be well, how could you get a demonic oppression on you? Well, I think you can get it generationally. There's things passed down in our bloodline. I think that you can get them if you have habitual sin, that you're opening the doors to things, that you're opening the door for the enemy. You can get them from soul ties. You know we sat, you know Jonathan and David had a godly soul tie. But you can have an ungodly soul tie and you've got to break those. You can also get them from trauma.

Speaker 2: 22:05

So when we go through trauma, which everybody has, and we're in that deep moment, we make agreements that we don't realize have power and authority. And so maybe you go through something. You're like I'm not lovable, I'm unworthy, and you make that agreement nobody loves me, nobody loves me, and you just hold on to it. That turns into a door for the enemy to come in and attach to that. And so that's where the inner healing comes in, of saying, okay, let's let. Who do we believe God is, and you know, and you know who is father God? Where is the lie between who father God is, cause God is loving, or who is Jesus or Holy spirit? And that's where, partner with the deliverance you cast it out, but also with the inner healing of where is the lie that came in that an enemy attached to? And we go, heal the lie through um, the power of God, through through Jesus and letting him in on that, and then we do the inner healing on that side.

Speaker 1: 22:55

Does that make sense Absolutely, and I'm guessing that somebody is like, okay, sign me up, where do I do this? So, obviously, here in Minnesota. If you're close by, in the Twin Cities, definitely go to his healing house. But I wanted to ask, so you know, let's just say somebody lives somewhere where they don't know anybody who does this. Is it something that you can do like self-deliverance or self inner healing, or is it a partnership that's needed with you know, a quote unquote third party with somebody who is maybe a deliverance minister?

Speaker 2: 23:27

Well, there are, if this is getting more and more you know needed, and so more and more places are available. Can you do self-deliverance? Yes, you can. Is it harder? Yeah, because you are your Holy Spirit. You have the Spirit of God within you, you can take your thoughts, captive yourself, but you also have an enemy who's like literally fighting you. And so I find that in the beginning, if you really want to get free, have someone come in, like, when I do deliverance, I do it, I'll do it, but I have an intercessor with me, because this is war, this isn't prayer, like I'm not praying to Jesus. Help me to feel loved. That is a prayer. I am really like unlovable. Leave now, and then intercessor is like, yeah, and so it's a little bit more of a warfare tactic. And who wants to go to battle alone? Can you? Yeah, right, but I don't encourage it because you really have someone who's an enemy, who's really trying to keep you in bondage.

Speaker 1: 24:23

Yeah, awesome, like I really. Like I said to the person last night that didn't know about it, I shared a little bit and I just said I feel like it's definitely a missing link in the church that has almost the door. You know we talk about open doors. It's like a door has been shut you know, to keep people imprisoned from.

Speaker 1: 24:43

You know some of the things that have held them captive for so long, and that's part of my story too. Right, there's generational things that you know we worked on last friday literally like, yeah, um, I mean, you're welcome to share anything on that if, if you are led to, but, um, you know, kind of my, my, my story is I just kept hearing my spirit like bloodline deliverance, bloodline deliverance. And you know the way that the lord orchestrated this for me to be in this space in this time, partnered with you know, holly and Steph and his healing house, to literally like get. I mean, every time I go in there I'm losing a pound and I'm not even doing anything to like lose weight, but it's almost like the way I see it is that my body has just been, it's kind of been its way of trying to protect itself. Right here, let's get a little thicker. I don't know if that makes sense, do you agree? Have you seen that with people?

Speaker 2: 25:41

Yes, 100%. There's a physical side about that with your nervous system is maybe isn't working for you, but honestly, kristen, every time you come in, you're shedding another layer and I think spiritually, and then it's coming off physically. That's what I see for you, that you're not doing anything in this. Pounds are coming off, and I mean that we. We do see that quite often, like again, every case is different, it's very personalized, but because we deal with the spiritual aspect and it doesn't mean I don't want people to think that we come in here we talk about deliverance and inner healing. Actually, I rarely talk about it with my clients. We let them know it's a service and then if people are want more, we we offer it.

Speaker 2: 26:18

Yeah, um, but because I believe that and I'm the company and we pray over this space, we are, we are know that this is a healing place for people. I mean, people are getting healed. Steph and I, every day, we are so humbled, like like your, like your story, like, oh my gosh, she has this, this and this and weight's coming off and she's getting more emotional freedom and now she's ready for deliverance and here's this service, and then we're just watching the Lord bring people, yeah, and and sometimes I and some of them don't even know that we have so many clients who are just like can I just come sit in your space? I don't want to leave.

Speaker 2: 26:51

I had one sweet girl, and she was she. She didn't even want that. She was paying for the nutrition response testing that we do, but honestly, she goes. You know I don't need this. Can I just sit here?

Speaker 1: 27:02

I felt like that too.

Speaker 2: 27:04

And I was like, yes, you can, because there's so much chaos everywhere. It's the peace of God that's being stewarded and that when people feel it, there's something in their nervous system that says I'm safe. And I and people don't even know what safety means anymore spiritual safety, physical safety and for our bodies truly to heal, we really um have to feel safe, and so I feel like um, when people come in here whether it's just for the follow-up appointment, but most I mean testimony of testimony I felt heard, I felt safe. They used the gifts and the resources that we have to bring healing for them, as far as from a nutritional standpoint or the other services we have. But really we're getting people's nervous systems and I think it's by the power of the Holy Spirit that he is the comforter and the counselor and his presence is here.

Speaker 1: 27:56

Absolutely. I mean, I feel it every like, even the first time I came and I was like Whoa I, I, I'm a feeler, I can feel it Right.

Speaker 2: 28:04

Yeah, I think your testimony was. I don't know why, but I had to drive an hour to get here for the ribbon cutting Right.

Speaker 1: 28:18

Wasn't that? And you're like, yeah, I, he, just I was off social media for like three months. I happened to pop in to check one of my groups and your event came up and I looked at it and I'm pretty quick to like go if he, you know it's, it's pretty quick, like I'm I don't really question things, but I was like, huh, I'm supposed to be here and, um, yeah, it was like it just it's like a stepping stone, like a huge stepping stone that really has expanded so much for me and the freedom that you know I talk a lot about soaring and I feel like my wings have, um, I'm just lighter and freer, right, um, so it's beautiful. I wanted you to touch a little bit, because part of fight or flight right, as I'm talking about soaring nervous system fight or flight years ago he gave me kind of a flip the script on that.

Speaker 1: 29:04

It was fight or flight, but you're free. So it was kind of this like let's not just focus on that, but like freedom. So could you touch a little bit on like fight or flight? I know it is. We hear it a lot At least I do. Maybe it's because I'm kind of in circles of holistic healing and that kind of thing. But could you share a little bit more about, like kind of what that looks like and what people might be experiencing when they're kind of in that state?

Speaker 1: 29:32

So from like a more of a scientific view yeah, and just what you've seen of people that are kind of, you know, constantly in that realm right, living in fight or flight, yeah, Well, like I said, we're trauma informed here and so with that comes the autonomic nervous system and how does the body feel safe to heal?

Speaker 2: 29:55

And so we know from a um there's sympathetic, which is the formal term for fight or flight. You need it. Fight or flight is a good thing, like sometimes, you know, we might think it's a bad thing, but there's no shame for being in fight or flight. You know the the. If you need to run from a bear, you need to run from a bear, you need to run from a bear. But even if you feel safe, unsafe, your body's going to go into, without even knowing it, a fight or flight state and if you stay there too long you're going to go into another level, um, and it's the dorsal, vagal part of parasympathetic and that is your shutdown and that's where your body really is just shutting down. And if you kind of look, there's like the fawn, kind of fight, flight or fawn now came where there's kind of this freeze, like I'm frozen, like I'm done, and our body. I think all of these states are a good thing. It's just can we notice when we're in either fight or flight or the shutdown? Be kind to ourself that our body went there because we can't control it and then the only way to get out a few of the ways to get out is we have to feel safe. Yeah, so sometimes when we do inner healing we'll bring people to a safe place and even if it's just, you know, breathing and some somatic stuff or whatever, but getting that nervous system to calm down enough to feel safe, yeah, so we try to.

Speaker 2: 31:15

There's a lot of things even I talk to the girls here, we work here of like sometimes there's a lot of medical trauma that comes just with like. I was talking to a client who did we do labs, we do functional labs here, and the way we do our blood draws, we do them in a very calm room. We do it with low music oils amazing, I know, and and steph doesn't, she's so calming, yeah, and I was like people actually have trauma with needles and the sight of blood and sometimes their body just knows something and so let's just calm their nervous system before we poke them. So everything that we're doing is like aware of trying to get their nervous system to calm down, to feel safe from an external standpoint, and people's bodies respond. We've done.

Speaker 2: 31:59

I was just talking with positions and there was just so many things that when you're trauma informed you know like we stand over people, like we should test them. But sometimes that can put people. They don't notice it but their bodies might go in a little bit of a fight or flight because they're like hovering that the position and we don't know what trauma people have. So as far as just like, I don't know if I got off track, but as far as being good, this is really good. Yeah, like I don't. There's. There's so many little things that we do when we say we Holy Spirit, but to us being aware of um, of the way we set up this environment to calm the nervous system down so that your body can heal, and then people feel that.

Speaker 1: 32:41

So that's so amazing. You know, as you were talking about, like the blood draws, and you know people having kind of that reaction. I don't even know if this is a thing, but I was wondering, like when somebody kind of hits panic, right, when somebody is going to do a blood draw, is the blood affected at that point? Can you actually have a different result in different tests on the blood because you're in a state of panic? I'm curious. That's just a thought that came to me.

Speaker 2: 33:09

That's super curious. I have no idea, but that would be super fascinating to know. That's super curious. I have no idea, but that would be super fascinating to know. I don't know, I don't know, I know that. Um, you know, we had the one she just told me last night because she had her blood draw. She and she had gone to a different, just a lab of one of them, and she was like, oh my gosh, she's like I have never experienced a blood draw like this. Yeah, it's like I didn't even know that I get all like tense when I go. She didn't have an unknown trauma and but she was like she's like. I was just so calm and before I knew it, I felt the poking was done and I'm like that, stephanie is amazing, she's yeah she is amazing, oh my gosh.

Speaker 1: 33:46

Well, you guys have other modalities. I know you talked about somatic. What is that? If somebody was kind of like, what is, what is she talking about with somatic?

Speaker 2: 33:56

Yeah. So somatic just means like the body in a release, and so it's getting more and more popular, I think since the book the Body Keeps a Score came out, however long ago, and people really starting to understand that trauma really does just stay in our bodies. So whenever we feel trapped or we are not able to finish a body movement, that trauma can stay. So, for example, let's say someone walks up to me and grabs my arms and restrains my arms and I can't punch them, so I don't finish my defense physically in my body. That trauma could or could not, but it could stay in my arms. And so through somatic body work we allow that to finish that. Um, we don't do the punching arm, but we finish that action to actually get the trauma to release out of the arm.

Speaker 2: 34:45

You'll see animals in nature. If they go under, have a traumatic experience, they'll shake it off. They'll shake it. It's their nervous system shaking out the trauma in their body and and we don't do that, we're not allowed to cry it out. Crying is good, to just cry out our trauma. You know, physically the chemicals in our eyes release and so we're aware. And so with the somatic body work it's amazing We'll just lay hands, let's say it was on my arm, and usually a person it's not talk or anything. Usually a person will say, oh my gosh, I have this memory and then, when that memory comes up in the arm, we'll let them, um, release it, and then they're like, oh my gosh, I feel so good, so it's just like this huge size. So, um, that's what a small part of how somatic body work works. We do it with through prayer, we do it from a faith-based perspective, definitely the prayer and the guidance of the Holy spirit, um, and then the physical release of trauma.

Speaker 1: 35:37

Yeah Well, I almost this is kind of unusual that I would do this but, um, I feel like somebody is to like, actually do that action right now. Like, is there, if you're thinking of somebody who's listening right now, is there something that maybe you're seeing for them that they could literally shake off and then, maybe walk them through that for a moment well what I would do, and if they didn't get so in their head about it.

Speaker 2: 36:00

But if you could, just, I would just take a deep breath in, just blow it out. Yeah, excuse me, I'm gonna cough no problem, yeah.

Speaker 2: 36:14

So I would just say, take a deep breath in, blow it out and try and get your nervous system calm again. Just get some breath in your brain, blow it out, yeah. And then I would just ask holy spirit, holy spirit, there's something in my arms I need to release. And then, whatever you hear, don't question it, cause if it's right or wrong, it doesn't matter. And um, and maybe you get a memory of when you were a kid your brother grabbed your arm. So you would just, you would just say, okay, holy spirit, what do I need to know about my brother grabbing my arm? Keep breathing.

Speaker 2: 37:02

Maybe you'd be like I was angry at him and I never got to say anything because I couldn't, you really couldn't do anything. And so you just feel that for a minute and you just, okay, I really said anger against my brother. You just say it out loud and then you literally just shake your arms out and just shake them off feels good for me right now. And you just shake them and shake them and shake them, because your brother grabbed your arm. You can never just shake it off and you'd shake it until, and all of a sudden, you'll know, oh, that that left, yeah, and then it feels better yeah so listener is.

Speaker 1: 37:35

I would love to hear it. I'm sure reach out to holly if you experience something, of course, but um, and I've experienced that myself within the last year of doing some of this you know somatic release work and it's at first I was like me you want me to do what? But it is so powerful. Um, like you said, I saw a video years ago of um. It must've been like a gazelle being attacked by a mountain lion or something like a ravenous animal and it played dead. Yeah, and then, once it was safe, it literally like shook itself out. Yeah, it's like, wow, that is so incredible.

Speaker 2: 38:12

Like, again, this is not stuff that you would be told at your physician's office and the really cool thing about that is, um, we do it in an hour session and obviously we guide the Holy spirit, but it didn't. We didn't have to talk about the brother thing, we didn't have to sit and dwell on it, we didn't have to whatever, we just had to let the memory come, let the Holy spirit release it and then physically shake it and that's. You know, it's amazing how much people feel better, um, just by doing that. And I, I, I'm all for talk therapy, I really am. But I think we're over-talked and sometimes we're talking things over and over again and cementing them in, and and sometimes some of these other things can just release things that you didn't have to. Um, yeah, all on and over and over again. So there's a place for all of it. It's just that these kinds of things aren't talked about. Yeah Well, what other? And over again. So there's a place for all of it. It's just that these kind of things aren't talked about.

Speaker 1: 39:05

Yeah, Well, what other modalities do you have? Because I know I've been able to experience some of the other modalities that you offer and I would love to hear just kind of the why behind, like the different offerings, the you know, we go to a restaurant, there's a menu and right there's different items on the menu and typically there's a reason that you pick different things. So tell us more about what else you offer. And then what? What is it behind it? What is the why behind it? Yeah, and the why.

Speaker 2: 39:36

So our primary service is obviously the the nutrition response testing. But then we have what we call it our therapeutics, and that is where we have. We have, we have our offices over here and then we have the therapeutic side over there and that's where we do things to help your body kind of heal in other ways. So we have the sauna. Everybody knows how great the sauna is for detox and helping your body release things. We have red light therapy in the sauna, so you get it all at once and in the red light therapy is so good for your cellular regeneration, healing your body, all the things from that standpoint. Then we also have the salt therapy. So halo therapy, salt therapy.

Speaker 2: 40:22

They found. They found that, um, coal miners and salt miners. You know, a hundred years ago the coal miners had so much respiratory issues, um, and the longevity of life was horrible. But the salt miners had major longevity of life. They had great health, great skin, great respiratory, all the things. So they studied it later and realized all of the healing um things with salt, regarding with salt, regarding reducing inflammation, all of the benefits to respiratory, all the benefits to skin, even mood, and so that's why we have a salt room where there's a generator that just puts super small particles of salt in the air, so you just breathe it in, you can't even see it, sometimes you can taste it. And then our sauna also has salt in it. So you just breathe it in, you can't even see it, sometimes you can taste it. And then our sauna also has salt in it. So our sauna you can get salt, red light and sauna all at once, which is fantastic. And then we have what's called a pulse electromagnetic field mat, pemf mat, and that is a grounding mat. That is really good to one to help your nervous system ground chronic pain, stiffness, nerve damage, fatigue. That's probably I don't know, they're all my favorite, but I have a PMF mat. I do it every day just to ground myself, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2: 41:35

Then we have a Qi machine that is for lymphatic drainage. It's this machine that sways your feet back and forth, kind of feel like a fish, but it helps your body drain and helps with chronic fatigue, inflammation, nerve pain, joint pain, circulation feels like you just get done from a run, yeah, good. And then let's see what else. Oh, then the ionic foot bath. So that is where you put your feet in. The ionic signals pull toxins out of your feet into the water. So the water will start out white and by the end it'll go. It'll either change brown or green or black, depending on what's pulling out of your body, and so we just live in a highly toxic world, no matter what Our body needs help removing all of this, and so that I love that. That helps people sleep better, helps detox. It removes toxins out of your body, brain fog, all those kind of things, and then, yeah, I think that's it. So those are the extra services that we provide over there.

Speaker 2: 42:39

And what we call our living room uh, it's healing house, so that's a big room that has um, and then we do a ton of classes here. So we really believe in um, educating and actually discipling people. So, um, we do um, like we did an emmanuel journaling class, we actually have one coming up on the 12th a day long of really teaching people how to hear the voice of god in a gentle way. The person who's teaching that her name is Jane Grant-Daben. She is absolutely amazing and gifted in calming the nervous system down so that we really can slow down enough to hear God speaking to us, because I believe God for sure speaks through the Bible, but he's speaking to us in so many ways we're just not hearing it. So that is one of our favorite class favorites.

Speaker 2: 43:23

Like people, there's a waiting list for that one all the time. We just opened that one up. So, um other classes, we've done our dream interpretation classes. I might teach a class on how to hear the voice of god and how to how to have prophetic ministry in a way that is not um is honoring to people. I think sometimes it's misused. Um, um wisdom around prophetic ministry, um oh gosh, I don't know we do so many. We always have to just look at our website to see what is available. We have worship nights and just it's a lot of fun here.

Speaker 1: 43:51

Yes, um, well, tell us a little bit. So we didn't touch on the nutrition response testing. Um, somebody might be wondering, like what is that? That's a big deal.

Speaker 2: 44:02

Yeah, it's a big deal. It's our primary service. It's a big deal. So we use your body.

Speaker 2: 44:10

I believe our bodies are a temple of God. I believe our bodies, given the right resources, nutrition, environment, everything, really should be able to heal themselves. In fact, for the last however many years, up to a couple hundred years ago, we didn't have the doctors, we didn't have anything. Our bodies healed and so we got in the way. And so there's things that are stressing our bodies, that are affecting our bodies from healing. So we get to the root cause by saying why isn't your body working the way God made it and why isn't it healing? We do it through pushing on your muscle, and your muscle has a certain response when we put certain things around it. And so it's kind of like if I were to hook you up to a people are this is really common If I hooked you up to a lie detector machine, asked you certain questions, the lie detector would would analyze maybe your heart rate, increase your blood pressure, increase your sweat glands, and it would give an output based on your body's natural automatic responses. That's what we did through muscle testing. Was they put certain things on your body just like a lie detector and your, your muscle, will have an automatic response and that gives me information. So I'm trained to read that. So I, your God-given body, is, it knows and it wants to heal. And then we figure out, okay, why. Why? The first thing we test is is your nervous system functioning the way it should? So a lot of what we do versus other healing modalities is we test your autonomic nervous system a little bit, what we talked about before.

Speaker 2: 45:28

And if your nervous system is blocked, your body's not even able to heal. Most people, when they have a blocked nervous system, they feel stuck. They feel like they've gone to doctor after doctor and nothing works. They just usually their language is that, like I, just feel stuck. Symptoms of a blocked nervous system are, let's say, you are trying to lose weight and you are doing all the right things You're exercising, working out, doing other things but you cannot get that scale to move. It could just be nervous system is blocked and once we unblock it, all of a sudden the weight comes off because you're doing the right things. Yeah. So from there, we test the blocked nervous system.

Speaker 2: 46:01

Then we test is your nervous system switched? That's a state of confusion. That's when you're either stuck in fight or flight and can't get out, or you're stuck and shut down and can't get out, and so when you're in a state of confusion, we test that and that keeps your body from healing. Well that, if you have a switched nervous system, that same person is trying to lose weight. They could be doing all the right things eating right, working out, doing everything but they're gaining weight. They're having the opposite reaction. So we test for both those things, and so once we fix and make sure that their nervous system is working correctly, people tend to get results, and then, when they're doing the right things eating and doing things they're actually getting the results that they wanted. So that's our primary service, where we see the most healing, and then, yeah, I absolutely love it.

Speaker 1: 46:45

Yeah, and I would say like I think, if I'm remembering correctly, like I came in blocked and every time I've come in for my follow-up appointments I'm not blocked, yeah, which can be super frustrating as one who's been. I mean I eat really well, I work out all the time and you can like. Honestly, it can be so frustrating because you wonder, like what's wrong with me, like that was the question, like what's wrong with me? Like why, and you, you can, you can get into some comparison too. It's like, well, what Lord? Why am I like this? Like what, what's wrong with me? Because you go for years and years of you know, knowing that you're doing the right thing quote unquote and yet there's just this missing element that can literally like to me. It feels like what have I been going there for?

Speaker 1: 47:37

I don't know six or eight, eight weeks or something, and I'm like dang, this is just wild.

Speaker 2: 47:44

It's so cool because it really was. Your nervous system was blocked. Your body was not working for you, it was working against you, and so it is very frustrating and feel self-defeating and discouraging because people are trying to do right things. Now, if you're still eating all this stuff, that is a different conversation, but if it's just your nervous system is blocked, we find that once we get people to feel the difference, this is what it's like when your body is working the way god intended. We are made for so much more. Oh gosh, I feel like I'll settle. I think people are thinking, oh, my gosh, I don't need to sleep eight hours, it's okay. I wake up all the time. I don't need to go to the bathroom once a day, it's okay.

Speaker 2: 48:19

Like people are living at status quo and mediocrity. They don't even know it because they don't know. No one's come into them and said no, actually there is more for you and there's a way to get you to experience more wellness, vitality. Our bodies are sacred. We want to be able to use them the way God intended and we're settling because not because we know, because I think no one said no, that's not normal.

Speaker 2: 48:39

No, it's normal to be fatigued all the time. It's not normal to be tired. It's not normal to go to the bathroom only once or twice a week and you go to the doctors now because of how sick everybody is, they've had to normalize things. That's not normal. You should be going to the bathroom twice a day just to get eliminate toxins out of your body. So I feel like we're raising the bar like no, you're made for more and we can fix things and you can walk in full abundance and freedom, vitality, and we're here to partner with you and your goals and how you want to get there, and tell you what your body's saying so you can make the best decision, yes, and just think like that's one of my favorite things, like there's more, it's time to soar Right.

Speaker 1: 49:17

Oh yeah, I love. I saw on your website that you you carry that message as well, because when you feel well you're more prone to go do the thing that God's calling you to do.

Speaker 2: 49:26

When you're tired you're.

Speaker 1: 49:27

You're probably going to be more of a bench warmer.

Speaker 2: 49:30

Yeah.

Speaker 1: 49:30

He's calling us off the bench. He's calling us to be trailblazers and pioneers, and I get really passionate about this and I'm thankful that he's given me like the resilience and the tenacity to keep going, even though I have had years of, you know, a lot of physical symptoms but then also some spiritual stuff that was really trying to push me back and keep me back and keep you know. If somebody is listening and you're hearing this, you're like that. That's me Like reach out to Holly, reach out to Holly. And if you're not in this area, do you have like resources or somewhere where you can point people, like in the United States? Or I mean I had somebody from England yesterday that I pointed to somebody because I love, you know, helping people get that inner healing that they're able to get. But do you have other you know resources that you can share with people that would maybe point them, let's say, if they live in Florida, or you know Georgia, you know.

Speaker 2: 50:30

I do and on you know the, the way, the modality we're anyway, when you're in holistic health. I just want to say this there are places that have taken it. That's not biblical and there needs to be discernment of like. Oh my gosh, somatic body work that hurts this really good thing on this podcast here and you find somebody who they're partnering with matters, and so it's really important to have discernment of like. Okay, if we're partnering with the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit is a source of everything we're doing and we're praying and we're doing those kinds of things. But you know there's other places, are not that are just worldly or new agey or whatever, and so be cautious.

Speaker 2: 51:07

I really feel like, as far as trailblazing, I really feel like I'm trailblazing a place in this that taking back what the enemy has stolen, that God made our bodies but that you know, other places, without sourcing the Holy Spirit, have stolen. So we definitely do have resources, if you're curious, and also just an ability to be like okay, these are really good questions to ask your practitioner to make. Like you know, someone will say, oh, I saw this person and my goal and I'll just tell them. Make sure, if you feel at peace and I felt good about like well, you got to ask these questions because I don't think they have bad intentions or anything. But we need to be discerning on those kind of things, absolutely.

Speaker 1: 51:47

Well, you have just shared so much goodness today and I would love for you to just share. If you have any, you know, just get somebody in mind today that's listening. If you have any encouraging words for them, any wisdom that you'd like to speak over them, would you be open to sharing that and then would you pray us out today?

Speaker 2: 52:05

Yeah, I would, yeah, definitely. You know, I really feel like what you just said and it aligns with your mission about we're made for more and we really are made to soar. I think not only just in our personal lives, our day to day, but I feel like the Lord is doing a lot, even just in our personal lives, our day-to-day. But I feel like the Lord is doing a lot even just in in our communities, in our state, in our nation, and it's a new season for a new time, and we, as Christians, really need to be healed and whole, to walk out the the call that God has for us and to really be soaring. And so, um, I just want people to encourage they are made for more, there is more. You are loved, you are known, you are seen. Your spiritual battles that you're dealing with, oftentimes in secret, you don't know. There is freedom, there is deliverance. God does set the captives free. Your health journeys that feel like a doctor after doctor or whatever god does heal, I have. I tell people all the time I have faith in the room to hold that god is a god who heals. He heals the brokenhearted, he restores and and we're all on this journey, in different seasons of either holding on to a promise that isn't fulfilled yet or living out a promise that has been fulfilled. And so I feel like the Lord has given me, with my family's own health journey, finally to the other side, over 20 years of no, I can tell you, hold on to my faith. God does heal, god does restore. My kids are maybe still have disabilities and stuff, but he was whole. He's made them whole. They are beautifully and wonderfully made. He's brought restoration. He has a job. He's a god who is in a journey to bring healing to his people, to draw them closer to himself, because he loves us. So I don't know, that's what I have. I'll just close in prayer for anybody who's listening. I feel I feel the lord always. I always feel like whoever the lord brings in front of me I always know is for a reason and a purpose and it's just my job to partner with holy spirit of why they're in front of me. So I feel any person who's listening, it's for a reason and a purpose.

Speaker 2: 54:07

Heavenly Father, we praise you, we thank you. I thank you, god, for Kristen. I thank you, god, for her journey. I thank you, god, for her tenacity, her trailblazing, her determination. I thank you, god, that she always gets up. She always gets back up and she knows that you have called her to soar on eagle's wings. I thank you, god, that she's not one just to soar alone, but that she's one to bring others, that she wants to soar on eagle's wings, lord, but that she wants more to soar, and that she's on mission and the calling you have for her. Thank you, god, for the healing that you brought in her body. Lord, the continued healing that you have for her.

Speaker 2: 54:46

Pray for every single person who's listening. Heavenly Father, I just pray, god, you would touch them right now. I pray, god, that they would feel your presence, even at the sound of my voice. I pray God, that they would know that you are a God who still works in power and authority, that you are not just asleep upstairs, but that you are actually here, actively reaching out to your children. I thank you, god, that you are a god, that you want to heal the broken heart. I just keep hearing that he wants to heal the broken hearted. So I pray, heavenly father, that you would just touch them and feel your presence. They would know they're loved, seen and heard. May you bless them and keep them. May your face shine upon them and be gracious towards them. May your conscience be towards them and fill them with your peace. Your name I pray for amen amen, holly.

Speaker 1: 55:38

How can people get a hold of you? What is the best way for them to reach out to you to hear more about his healing house? I'll be sure to add it to the show notes, but is there a website? What's the best way?

Speaker 2: 55:49

Hishealinghouseorg. Some people ask why is it his healing house?

Speaker 1: 55:53

Holly, you should have asked you that question. Tell us if you have a second. Tell us the name.

Speaker 2: 55:58

It's his healing house, Cause this is God's healing house. It really is, and it's one of those things. If you know, you know. It's like you know. If you know it's his healing house, this is his house, it's all for him.

Speaker 1: 56:10

So his healing houseorg? Okay, and then can they reach out to you personally if they had questions. Okay, absolutely. I know you guys offer discovery calls, so could you just touch on that really quickly.

Speaker 2: 56:28

If you want to learn more and have questions. It's a 15 minute free call. You talk to me specifically when you sign up for that and, yeah, I just kind of ask, answer any questions and we really want people to feel excited and at peace about this is the right, the next step for them. So, yeah, sign up for discovery call. If you're interested in some of our ministry stuff on our website it's called Living Room Events. That's some of our ministry classes that we have, but otherwise just check our website.

Speaker 1: 56:51

Yeah, definitely check it out. Follow along. Well, thank you so much for being on. I'm going to close with our anchoring verse over Hope Unlocked. May the God of hope fill you with all joy and peace in believing so that, by the power of the Holy Spirit, you may abound in hope. I love that word abound. That's Romans 15, 13. So thank you, holly, for being a brave voice. Who's setting so many free? And I will be back with another episode next week. We'll talk to you later. Bye, thank you.