From Street Fights to Spiritual Awakening: The Dare 2 Share Story with Greg Stier

A knock on a Denver door changed everything. Greg Stier grew up amid fear and fists until a bold preacher shared the gospel—and lit a spark that transformed his family. That spark became Dare 2 Share, a global movement equipping teens to share their faith with courage and clarity. We unpack how ask, admire, admit turns everyday talks into gospel conversations, why Gen Z craves truth over trends, and how courage and compassion can change everything. Gritty, hope-filled, and real.

Greg's Contact Info:

Website - www.dare2share.org

Email - speaking@dare2share.org

Resources:

Day of Global Youth Evangelism (11/8/25)

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Chapters

• 0:00 Host Welcome And Mission
• 0:56 Meet Greg Stier And Family Roots
• 2:07 The Dare That Changed Everything
• 5:17 Mom’s Shame, Rage, And Redemption
• 8:34 Don’t Give Up: Prayer Like An Axe
• 11:06 Marriage Meltdown And Turning Point
• 15:31 Boundaries, Rhythm, And Real-Life Checks
• 19:38 Reimagining Youth Ministry With Dare To Share
• 24:02 Global Day Of Youth Evangelism
• 26:50 Practical Ways To Share Faith
• 29:54 Stories Of Pushback And Power
• 33:10 Culture, Gen Z, And Clear Answers
• 35:49 Resources, Mentors, And Models
• 37:00 Books: Unlikely Fighter And Radical Like Jesus
• 40:04 Challenges That Stretch Compassion
• 42:46 Jesus’ Radical Way And Heroes Of Faith
• 44:49 Final Gospel Invitation And Prayer
• 46:49 Closing Blessing And Connect Info

Transcript

SPEAKER_00: 0:16

Welcome to the Hope Unlocked Podcast. I'm your host, Kristen Kurtz, and I'm also the founder of New Wings Coaching. I help and empower wild-hearted and adventurous women of faith feeling caged and stuck, unlock their true purpose and potential, break free from limitations, and thrive with confidence, courage, and hope. If you're curious to learn more about coaching with me, head to newwinkscoaching.net and be sure to explore the show notes for ways to connect with me further. Get ready to dive in as we uncover empowering keys and insights in this episode. So tune in and let's unlock hope together. Welcome to the Hope Unlocked podcast. I'm Kristen Kurtz, your host. I pray this episode is like a holy IV of hope for your soul. Please help me welcome Greg Steer to the show. I am so excited to have him here. We've had a moment to chat a little bit ahead of time, and we're a new connection. As everybody here knows, I love connections, and I think you guys are just going to be wowed by his story today. So, Greg, would you just be open to sharing a little bit about yourself before we get into it?

SPEAKER_01: 1:14

Sure, Kristen. I am uh my name is Greg Steer. I live in Arvana, Colorado. I'm married to my wonderful wife of 35 years, Debbie. Public school teacher at the same school for 30 years and is a legend in our city. Amazing. Two adult children, uh Jeremy and Kaylee. And Jeremy got married two years ago and Kaylee going to Colorado Christian University and both of them love Jesus. And yeah, it's great. I I have a great family and and love. I'm the founder of a ministry called Dare to Share.

SPEAKER_02: 1:48

Yes.

SPEAKER_01: 1:49

Train and equip teenagers all over the world how to share the gospel of Christ. And so I've been doing that for 34 years and I love it.

SPEAKER_00: 1:58

Wow. Wow. And I I like I said to you before, like I don't love to dig into people fully before I get into it. So, first of all, we want to know, and I know others want to know, dare to share. Tell us how that name came about.

SPEAKER_01: 2:11

Well, you know what? I I have this crazy story, this radical story. As I often say, I don't come from a typical religious church going, pew sitting, him-singing family. I come from a family filled with bodybuilding, tobacco chewing, beer drinking thugs. Awesome. Just the women. So the family. That's just the did you say that's just the women? I'm like, I got family male and female bodybuilders and street fighters. And um, three of my uncles were competitive bodybuilders. The fourth one was a bouncer at the toughest bar in Denver. And the fifth one was a gold gloss boxer, judo champion, war hero. My ma was the only girl in the group, and they were all afraid of her uh because she used a baseball bat when she fought. And uh she was like a jacked version of the woman at the well. I mean, she was my family. It was wild. So the mafia, the small don't't nicknamed my uncles the crazy brothers. Okay, and uh they were there was a lot of violence in my family. I was like young Sheldon in the hood. I was not a tough kid, I was terrified. And so I joke about it now, but actually, it's just every day growing up, I was I was terrified, I was mortified by the neighborhood we were raised in, by the family I lived in, the violence that I saw. And everything was in a downward spiral.

SPEAKER_02: 3:37

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01: 3:37

And then a hillbelly preacher, yeah, nicknamed Yankee for some reason, he planted a church in the suburbs of Denver and on a dare went to my Uncle Jack's house. My Uncle Jack had gone to jail for choking two cops unconscious at the same time. He was he looks like the Wolverine, but he's bigger. Uh tattoos everywhere. Yankee on a dare from a guy Bob Daly went to share the gospel. Dare to show to my uncle Jack, knocked on his door on a Saturday morning. My Uncle Jack came to the door, no shirt on, tattoos everywhere. Dug like this, he had two beer cans, one for one for drinking beer, one for spitting shoe.

SPEAKER_00: 4:23

Oh my goodness.

SPEAKER_01: 4:24

He goes, What do you want? And he goes, Uh, my name's Yankee Arnold. I'm here on a dare from Bob Daly to tell you about Jesus. I love it. And Jack goes, Well, I don't know Jesus, I know Bob, I'll give you five minutes. And he explained the gospel that Christ came to die for sinners. Um, that salvation wasn't by being good, it was by recognizing you're a sinner in need of a savior. You transfer your trust from yourself to Christ. Uh, in that moment, he will save you.

SPEAKER_02: 4:55

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01: 4:55

And Yankees said, Does that make sense? And my Uncle Jack said, Hell yeah, that was a sinner's prayer. Wow. He trusted in Christ and brought 250 people out to Yankee's church in one month. That is not an exaggeration. And one by one by one, my family members came to Christ. My Uncle Bob came to Christ in the back of a squad car after he beat a guy to death.

SPEAKER_02: 5:18

What?

SPEAKER_01: 5:19

Story after story after story. I watched the utter transformation of most of my family.

SPEAKER_02: 5:25

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01: 5:26

My Ma was one of the only holdouts because Ma, she was a partier, and she got pregnant uh with me. She found out she was pregnant. She drove from Denver to Boston to have an abortion.

SPEAKER_02: 5:44

Oh my gosh.

SPEAKER_01: 5:45

And stayed with my Uncle Tommy and my Aunt Carol, who had recently become Christians.

SPEAKER_02: 5:49

Wow.

SPEAKER_01: 5:50

They talked her out of it.

SPEAKER_02: 5:52

Oh my word.

SPEAKER_01: 5:53

She came back and she would look at me and burst into tears. And I always wondered why.

SPEAKER_02: 5:57

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01: 5:58

She would cry. And my grandma told me when I was 12 years old, you know why she cries when she looks at you? It's because she feels guilty because she almost aborted you. And she had a very checkered past, been with a lot, been married several times, been with a lot of men, and had violence in her. I remember when I was five years old.

SPEAKER_02: 6:19

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01: 6:20

I was playing on the front porch. And we lived in a the highest crime area of our city.

SPEAKER_02: 6:25

Okay.

SPEAKER_01: 6:25

And a guy pulls up in a brand new car, and I strained my eyes to see who it was. And it was one of the guys she had married who had left us. And I yelled inside, Mommy, mommy, you know, one of my dads is here. And she was smoking a cigarette, doing the dishes. She looked out and she saw him. She grabbed a baseball bat, cigarette still in her mouth, goes running out while he's sitting in the car, shatters his front windshield. She goes, Get out of the car. I'm just a girl, right? Takes out his headlight. She goes, Come on, get out. She starts doing body damage on this car. And I'm traumatized, yet somehow proud of my mom because she's just wailing on this car. I'm like, you go, mom, you go, my like he gets out of the car and she lit him up with that baseball bat. I joke about it now, but it actually traumatized me as a kid.

SPEAKER_02: 7:13

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01: 7:15

He drives off. We never see him again for some strange reason. And I remember thinking three to three things to myself when she's walking up. Uh, number one, I'm thinking, I will never disobey my mom again. Right, right. Never see such violence. Yeah. Number two, I'm thinking, how did the cigarette stay in her mouth the whole time? The whole time. Right. And then the third question is, why is my mom so mad? And I found out when I was 12 years old, she had a shame-fueled rage. Wow. Wow. And um, at the same time, when I was 12 years old, I learned how to share my faith. Because this Hillbilly preacher trained me. I went to his youth group, and I started going back and telling my mom about Christ. And it took three years. She would say, You don't know the things I've done wrong. And I knew them all because grandma told me. I said, It doesn't matter, Ma. Jesus paid the price on the cross, you place your faith in him, you have eternal life. And when I was 15, I sat her down one last time. She's still smoking a cigarette. I have my mom to Christ in between buffs. And she goes, I'm in. And when my family said, I'm in, they were she were all. Yeah, they came all in.

SPEAKER_00: 8:30

So I gotta stop you for a second. Yeah. Um, I know people who are waiting for others to come, whether it's uh spouses or family members or friends, and they're you know continually, you know, trying to reach people. What would you say? I mean, even as a child, you knew not to give up. Um what what kept you going? What what kept you going after like re you know, it's in essence, some could look at it as rejection, right?

SPEAKER_01: 9:03

You gotta love them enough not to give up. And when I say give up, I mean not not just sharing the gospel, but praying for them to be ready.

SPEAKER_02: 9:12

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01: 9:14

Prayer is like chopping down a tree. The bigger the prayer request, the bigger the tree. And you just keep swinging that axe of prayer until God yells timber. And when God yells timber, two things happen. A tree falls, the soul gets saved, you become spiritually jacked in the process.

SPEAKER_00: 9:34

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01: 9:34

Because you've been praying and you've been building faith, building that prayer.

SPEAKER_00: 9:39

That's so good. That's such a great like way. Could you could you repeat that again? I feel like somebody just needs to hear just how you explained prayer and trees.

SPEAKER_01: 9:48

Yeah, yeah. Prayer is it's like chopping a tree down. You know, you keep the bigger the tree, the more swings you got to take, and the harder it is, right? And when God answers that prayer, not only does a tree fall down, the soul gets saved, but you become spiritually strong because you've been praying. Yeah, like Jesus said in Luke 18.1, I gave him this parable to teach him how to pray and not give up.

SPEAKER_02: 10:10

Yes.

SPEAKER_01: 10:10

So praying perpetually, persistently, consistently, relentlessly actually strengthens your faith.

SPEAKER_02: 10:18

Yes, yes.

SPEAKER_01: 10:20

So it's not just a prayer request getting answered, it's you becoming stronger spiritually in the process.

SPEAKER_00: 10:25

Amen. Yes. So you see your mom come to Christ, and then what happened with her? You said she went all in. Like, oh I'm even thinking back because I got saved from addiction and I used to smoke two packs of cigarettes myself.

SPEAKER_03: 10:39

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00: 10:40

And it was like an immediate, like, I had a Saldopol conversion. I like to say that, but I didn't kill anybody, thankfully. I literally had no more desire for alcohol, drugs, cigarettes, which I think for a lot of people, cigarettes is a big thing. How did your mom do with the cigarettes?

SPEAKER_01: 10:56

Yeah, the cigarettes that was one area. I maybe not all in, 90, 99% in.

unknown: 11:02

Okay.

SPEAKER_01: 11:02

That's what took her home eventually. But um, you know, some people say that's harder than heroin to get. Yeah, totally. She, you know, she just began to tell everybody about Christ. I mean, she was and she was very blunt. My I come from a very blunt family. When I be when I was a pastor, she was in church, and I go, How many of you struggle with bitterness? She goes, I do every day. I'm like, Ma. Oh my gosh. She goes, Don't ask the question if you don't want the answer.

SPEAKER_02: 11:32

I love it.

SPEAKER_01: 11:33

Everybody looked at her, she goes, right? And everybody started cheering. I'm like, oh my goodness, my mom is raising up a revolution in her church. I love it. But you know, just telling everybody about Christ and um really like having hope. Yeah. Because she had so much shame, so much guilt for such a crazy, crazy past. Um my family became very evangelistic. Okay. Because they wanted everyone to know what it changed to them. And so, so anyway, so I you know, I graduate from high school, I go off to college, I meet the love of my life, uh, Debbie there. Debbie is she's her dad's an engineer.

SPEAKER_02: 12:17

Okay.

SPEAKER_01: 12:19

I was living in you know, trailer court. Um I was raised in apartment complexes in trailer courts. And so I, you know, I I meet her and she's you know, uptown girl. And uh we fall in love and um date for uh through years, and then we get married. Plant a church, um Grace Church, which is still around to this day in Arvada, Colorado, and uh with my friend, never went to seminary. Um start data to share on the side. And you know, both are going. It's not easy. My wife and I, you know, we had really rough time our our first five years of marriage because I was on the road and I was busy being a pastor and not busy being a husband, and that culminated in a not so good Bible study gathering where we got into a raging argument on the way to the Bible study about my busy schedule.

SPEAKER_02: 13:26

Okay.

SPEAKER_01: 13:27

And uh in the Bible study that night, um the uh the pastor Green, the associate pastor, was leading, and he goes, you know, tonight, let's just go around the room and see how we're doing. We'll set the Bible study aside and just let's get real and raw. I'm like, oh no.

SPEAKER_00: 13:44

Not tonight.

SPEAKER_01: 13:45

Gets around to me and I'm spinning it like a politician, you know, trying to find that work, ministry balance, life balance, blah, blah, blah. Gets to my wife, and you got to know my wife to appreciate it because she's very sweet, yeah, pretty shy, pretty quiet. Um, but she is a redhead. And Pastor Green goes, How's it going, Debbie? She goes, Not good. And everybody looked up and he goes, What's going on? She goes, My husband's gone every weekend, he's gone every night. When he is home, he's got nothing left for me. We've only been married for a few years. I can't take it, I can't fake it anymore. My husband's a jerk. Um I'm like, You want to do this right now in front of God and everyone? And so we start arguing. Okay. And everybody thinks it's a skit.

SPEAKER_02: 14:33

Oh, really?

SPEAKER_01: 14:34

It's not a skit.

SPEAKER_02: 14:36

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01: 14:36

And Pastor Green comes after me and says, I don't care if you pass for the largest church in America. If you don't take care of business at home, you're not. And I just snapped. I said, Yeah, well, I figured I'm gonna get fired. I'm gonna take him out. I charge him.

SPEAKER_02: 14:48

Oh, wow.

SPEAKER_01: 14:49

And in the middle of the room, I hit the Holy Spirit, hits me with a one-inch Bruce Lee. I fell to the ground and I began to weep because I knew he was right and she was right. And I repented for 30 minutes, like falling.

SPEAKER_02: 15:05

Oh wow.

SPEAKER_01: 15:06

Which nobody knew what to do. Like, do we call the Catholic priest? Because this is this is an exorcism situation. Right, right. And the most humiliating moment of my life saved my marriage. Because everybody knew. And uh older couples came around us, and my wife and I are, you know, 35 years strong now. Not that we never argue or fight, but way better now. Uh and um, you know, I mean, just being real. I mean, yeah, it was a rough, rough start, but yeah, have a strong finish by God's grace.

SPEAKER_00: 15:41

So, like, what would you say to, I mean, I I've I see it in, you know, people in business, in ministry, um, you know, our calling, if we want to use calling, um sometimes we get too many calls in our calling and we need to put the phone down, have boundaries. Um and and especially if you love what you're doing, right? What would you say to somebody who, you know, I do talk to a lot of women who tend to be more doers, right? They they're just, you know, even me, I had to come out of doing. I I'm generationally a doer. It's a very hard road to come out of that. But what would you say to somebody, like, what are the I don't know, key indicators of like the check engine light is on like what what's going on with you personally? Like, I can imagine that you were probably experiencing some things even. Um, but what would you say to somebody about this?

SPEAKER_01: 16:43

Well, I would say too, you know, I it's no different in ministry, like, you know, there's uh I'm very entrepreneurial, I'm a doer. Yeah, you we we want to our vision of dear to share is every teen everywhere hearing the gospel from a friend. That's a billion teens. And we've we've trained millions, but it's not a billion yet. So I'm like night and day thinking about this stuff, right? Yeah. So whether it's producing some sort of you know, widget in a company or whether it's a social media, you know, a marketing company, or it doesn't matter, ministry and entrepreneurial spirit can take you over and consume you. So I think one of the things that's helped me is becoming half monk, half missionary.

SPEAKER_02: 17:25

Okay.

SPEAKER_01: 17:25

And what I mean by that is making sure every day, number one, I'm cultivating my relationship with the Lord. Yes, I'm in prayer and I'm in the word. Uh and because that will show itself in my marriage. Yes, like the the right priority. Number two, one of the things we do on a very practical level is we take a vacation every year, and a lot of times little ones too. In addition, as a family, we spend time together. And we go on a lot of walks, we go on prayer walks. So we'll walk somewhere and talk about our day, and then on the way back we'll pray.

SPEAKER_02: 18:04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01: 18:05

And you know, I think the family that prays together, stay together, just stay stay connected to divine and just be aware. Like, I think just knowing that check engine like look, you know, don't just crank up the radio when you hear something. Right, right, right. Okay, let's do this stuff out. So ours has not been a straight line, ours has been zigzagging. Okay.

unknown: 18:30

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01: 18:31

It's still zigzagging. You know, every I always say every marriage is either a waltz or a tango. Waltzes are, you know, those are the couples that never fight and they always seem to be in sync. It's a beautiful dance. Tango is like, you lead, no, I lead, now kiss me, now dance. And you know, we have a tango. Yeah, but it works for us. Yeah, yeah. Tango when it's done is a beautiful dance when it's done well. Yeah. And uh I think you gotta you gotta keep dancing and figuring it out.

SPEAKER_00: 19:01

Yes, yes. So what like what would be maybe a check engine like indicator for you that comes up that you know you gotta get yourself back in check on that, like another rhythm of maybe a rhythm of rest or you know, what have you?

SPEAKER_01: 19:16

I mean my my calendar is is like when I talk to my wife and I see her face turn pale because of my travel schedule. I'm like, okay, this out. So to fix some of that is like, okay, well, which of these trips would you like to go with me on? That's great. Nebraska, I'm on my own. But if I'm California or Hawaii, she's like, you know, I think we need to start out, or whatever, you know.

SPEAKER_00: 19:46

I'm guessing she probably doesn't want to come here to Minnesota either.

SPEAKER_01: 20:26

You don't mind Minnesota's I mean, those five months a year.

SPEAKER_00: 20:31

Yeah, well, as long as you're not coming in the winter, you're probably good. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01: 20:36

Yeah. She's going back to Minnesota.

SPEAKER_00: 20:38

So the calendar is a big thing for you.

SPEAKER_01: 20:42

The calendar's a big thing. And I think also just non-verbal, like if there's, you know, I just uh I've been blessed with uh a curse. And the curse is I cannot operate if my wife is upset with me. I can't do anything.

SPEAKER_02: 20:59

Wow.

SPEAKER_01: 21:00

So we we have to we've we we work on that stuff, you know.

SPEAKER_00: 21:06

Yeah. Well, it's almost like a car. I mean, you can't run your engine without a transmission, right? So it's like it's a beautiful partnership that it sounds like you guys have. And you know, all too many um, you know, couples just don't get into that rhythm. And unfortunately, we're seeing a lot of fallout from you know, people going their separate ways. And um, I love that you really honor you, it sounds like you both honor one another in that.

SPEAKER_01: 21:33

So yeah. And I think, I think just figuring it out, you know. I mean, it was so much easier when I was reading those marriage books before you got married. Like raising kids, like, oh, it's gonna be like bowling, just fall.

SPEAKER_00: 21:48

Right, right, yeah. Wait to expect when you're expecting it's supposed to, it's all supposed to turn out that way, right?

SPEAKER_01: 21:55

Prayer and duct tape, man. That's what that's like. Just ask it's humbling, yeah, and it's awesome.

SPEAKER_00: 22:01

Yes. What would be like one of the biggest marriage advice um keys that you'd give to somebody who's maybe just getting married now? What would you say to somebody?

SPEAKER_01: 22:14

I would say fight through the breakthrough. Like don't let it go. Don't let stuff simmer. Like sometimes you need time to process, I understand that, but I'm saying don't just keep going like nothing's wrong. Right. Figure it out. Get to the root of it. Ask for forgiveness, don't say sorry. I was wrong, will you forgive me?

SPEAKER_00: 22:42

That's powerful.

SPEAKER_01: 22:43

And keep doing that. You know, I I I just imagine a bloody cross in the middle of our living room that I need to keep going back to.

SPEAKER_02: 22:54

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01: 22:55

Like communion, like remembering God forgiveness. I need to forgive, I need to ask for forgiveness.

SPEAKER_02: 23:01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01: 23:02

Humble yourself and asking forgiveness when you and granting forgiveness.

unknown: 23:07

No.

SPEAKER_01: 23:08

They're asking, you know.

SPEAKER_02: 23:10

Amen. That's good.

SPEAKER_01: 23:11

70 times seven, seventy times seven. Again and again. Really infinity, you know. That's another way to say protect as you've been forgiven. You forgot.

SPEAKER_00: 23:23

So good. Yeah. Somebody, you know, take that to heart, you know, especially if you're gonna be married soon or you're in the middle. I I think the first, I don't know about you, but the first, even for me, like the first five years, you're just you're still like getting acclimated to each other. It's like we're kind of foreigners in a way, and you're weird, and I'm weird, and you know what I mean? We've been together on our end for 29 years. So, you know, at this point, you're just you you kind of start answering each other's sentences, and in the beginning, you're like, what are you even talking about? Right?

SPEAKER_01: 23:56

Yeah, and I and I and you just gotta, you gotta just break like don't give up. Like yeah. And you know, I'm I know there's probably somebody listening that, you know, there's those who have been divorced. I mean, there's forgiveness and restoration through Christ. We know that. So I'm not wanna be like planet fitness, no guilt zone here. Like God is done. If you're if you are married or going to be married, um stick with it, you know, work out and fight through the breakthrough. And by the power of the Holy Spirit, things can and and don't keep it quiet. Like if you have struggles, you know. I mean, if you need counseling, you know, pastoral counseling, whatever. I mean, prayer. Yeah, conf, you know, James 5, you know, says confess your sins one to another that you may be healed. And somebody once put it like this we confess our sins to God for forgiveness. Yeah, we confess to each other for healing.

SPEAKER_02: 24:56

Yes.

SPEAKER_01: 24:57

No, don't don't just you know keep it to yourself.

SPEAKER_00: 25:02

Yeah. Like you said, I I like to say you gotta keep going through to get to the breakthrough. You can't just stop, you can't just give up, you gotta keep going. So with you on that trail. Well, let's talk a little bit more about um Dare to Share. And I I remember you telling me you have a book, which I love that the title too. So let's let's talk about um Dare to Share first. And what have you been doing? Um, I love again the name obviously came out of this encounter your uncle had. Um, tell us more about this and um you know the impact I know you're making for sure.

SPEAKER_01: 25:38

Well, you know, so Yankee, this hillbilly preacher, was really a youth leader, you know, who happened to be the senior pastor. He we had 800 teenagers in our youth group. We had 300 adults, 300 adults in our church.

SPEAKER_02: 25:53

Wow.

SPEAKER_01: 25:54

He believed the fastest way to reach a city was by mobilizing young people with and for the gospel.

SPEAKER_02: 25:59

Okay.

SPEAKER_01: 26:00

And so we did it. I mean, we we reached people for Christ, we discipled them as teenagers.

SPEAKER_02: 26:07

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01: 26:08

Um, not because we were uh extraordinary teens, we were ordinary teens, but we were we were given training and equipping. And so when I uh planted the church, I still had that heart for youth ministry, of course, at our church, but I was like, man, that same DNA needs to be in every youth group. So many times youth groups are just, you know, they entertain, they do some songs, they play some games, and they do a short lesson, they do camp, they do retreat. And we wonder why our kids are leaving their faith after they graduate. Right. It's because we're not giving them a mission. When I was a 12-year-old, I was given a mission to go and make disciples of all nations. And I was taken seriously, and I was given the tools to accomplish a serious mission. Um I just thought that's what youth ministry was. And then I got out and I'm like, what in the world? You guys just play games, have pizza, do a short lesson? How lame is that? No wonder kids are leaving. Right. So we started this mission basically to change the way youth ministry is done across the United States and now around the world. How do we become how do we mobilize this next generation as missionaries now and later? Yeah, right. Whatever and whatever job they're gonna do, right? Whatever college they go to, um, and whatever high school they're at or middle school they're at. So we started with big conferences. We used to do big conferences, like we'd go to Grace Church up in Eden Prayer. We've been in arenas from coast to coast, fill these events, train them, mobilize them all to share Christ. And then uh over the years it shifted to kind of a simulcast model, and now it's on demand. So it every November we do a day of global youth evangelism where youth leaders last year was in 110 countries, six churches trained and equipped, and all the kids are mobilized to share the gospel. Um, it's called the Day of Global Youth Evangelism. It's completely free, but it's high quality training.

SPEAKER_02: 28:13

Okay.

SPEAKER_01: 28:13

And uh what our goal is every teen everywhere hearing the gospel from a friend, one billion teens hearing the gospel. And so so, you know, been doing that. We have tons of free curriculum, tools, resources. I've been blessed at Dare to Share for 30 years. Our first time, first full-time employee was not me. It was a lady named Debbie Brissina.

unknown: 28:34

Okay.

SPEAKER_01: 28:35

Came out of high-tech and marketing. She had her own marketing firm and strategy firm. She started volunteering for Dare to Share. Her heart broke for the next generation. The reason we've been able to train millions of teens is not because of Greg Steer, it's because of Debbie Brissina and uh the brilliant leadership she's brought to the ministry for 30 years.

SPEAKER_00: 28:55

Um we thank you, Debbie. We thank you for the Debras that are coming around you.

SPEAKER_01: 29:02

I know. I got D1 and D2.

SPEAKER_00: 29:05

Like I I think of Deborah in the Bible. I'm like, wow, he's got the the Debras.

unknown: 29:09

I know.

SPEAKER_01: 29:10

I've all my life I've been surrounded by strong women, like my mom, very literally physically strong and every level strong. My wife, yeah, very strong, and Debbie Racina, very strong. Um, praise the Lord.

SPEAKER_00: 29:25

Yeah. Well, I want to have you for a second. So the day of global um you said youth, uh, is is that coming up soon? It's November 8th. November 8th.

SPEAKER_01: 29:37

It's um just if people can find it on daretoshare.org. That's the number two, and just look under events. And it can be done by a youth group, it can be done, it can literally be done in somebody's living room. Okay. Um because there's training and equipping, it's all on demand, it's all free. There's only one requirement. Okay. Okay. You gotta go out and share Christ after the training. We make you check a box, like I will go out to share. And if you're not willing to go out and share, then we don't we won't let you download the video.

SPEAKER_00: 30:11

So do you have like so once they you know download the videos and watch them, um, is there like accountability for people beyond checking the box? Like, what does that look like?

SPEAKER_01: 30:22

Yeah, so basically it's mostly a lot of youth pastors do this. So they we give the youth leaders the tools and resources to keep the students accountable throughout the year. Okay. Uh we have free curriculum, but parents do it. I mean, you keep your kids and their friends. I you know, I've been taking You know, growing up years, my kids out for years sharing the gospel. I'm the yeah, I keep them accountable. They keep me accountable too.

SPEAKER_02: 30:44

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01: 30:45

If we're at the restaurant, you know, my wife and I, you know, didn't pray for the server and begin a gospel conversation. So kids were like dad and mom. So it's co-accountability. Isn't it great? Learning how to share your faith. I believe, you know, the parents out there, especially parents of you know, older elementary and teenager years, we got to equip our young people to share the gospel. That and that's what we do at Dare to Share. So what we do the day of global, you can do the day of global youth evangelism actually anytime.

SPEAKER_02: 31:17

Okay.

SPEAKER_01: 31:17

After no, you know, November 8th or after.

SPEAKER_02: 31:20

Okay.

SPEAKER_01: 31:21

Um, and you can like do this together as a family. And maybe like what I always did was I got my daughter and my son, and then I get their friends. Okay. And then we would equip them, and then we would go out.

SPEAKER_00: 31:34

Oh wow.

unknown: 31:35

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00: 31:35

So what would that what would that look like? So somebody is like, you know, sharing the gospel. Let's just say somebody maybe hasn't heard that at their church before for some reason. What would that look like for somebody tangibly to go out?

SPEAKER_01: 31:48

So there's a lot, we have different ways that you can do that. Like you can you can, you know, call some friends and get together with them and have a gospel conversation. You could go out to the city and and you know, we did a thing called pizza prayer and proclamation where we bought a pizza. We'd go to homeless people and say, Would you like a slice? And they always say yes, especially if it's a good pizza, and pray for you. And we would segue into a gospel conversation. Do you have any spiritual beliefs? And we we do all the practical training. How do you bring it up? How do you share it? How do you turn an everyday conversation into a spiritual conversation? Actually, if you go onto YouTube, look up Greg Steer, Crash Course and Evangelism, there's a five-minute crash course video I did on how to share faith with anyone, anywhere, anytime.

SPEAKER_00: 32:36

Well, I will link that up in the show notes for people to talk about it. Um so you said it's crash course for evangelism.

SPEAKER_01: 32:42

Yeah, uh Greg Steer, S-T-I-E-R, Crash Course and Evangelism, and it'll pop right up.

SPEAKER_00: 32:47

Okay. Yeah. And I'm sure you have a lot more videos too.

SPEAKER_01: 32:51

Yeah. And we have videos, we have curriculum, we have and all of our uh digital curriculum is free.

SPEAKER_00: 32:56

Okay.

SPEAKER_01: 32:57

It's designed for youth ministry, but parents can use it with their kids.

SPEAKER_00: 33:00

Okay. Amazing. Through your yes, you've reached millions. Um, I would love for you to share like first, first person that comes to mind, maybe the, you know, outside of your family, obviously they've had massive transformation that only God could have orchestrated, right? Um, think of like a youth or somebody that comes to mind that you just your mind was blown, like the work that Jesus did through them. Um through, I mean, true, truly, it's through our yes that we get to see a ripple effect, right? Yeah.

SPEAKER_01: 33:36

Yeah, and the power of the gospel, don't underestimate it. Like people are like, well, I'm not gifted, it doesn't matter. It's like a grenade. Yeah. Um, it doesn't matter if you're gifted at throwing grenades or not. You pull the pen, it's gonna explode. Like there's power in the gospel message. Yeah. I take a one story, this guy's name was Kevin, and I was at the mall. Okay. I just had a spirit prompt. He was with three dudes, late teens, early twenties, all talking trash to the girls. I mean, something kicks me off. Yeah. The Spirit of God was like, go tell them about Jesus. I'm like, no, I don't want to tell them about Jesus. Yeah. But I had to say yes. And so I started a conversation. These guys were drunk, they were mocking me. All this stuff. And I'm like, hey, I got this book in my car. It's called More Than a Carpenter by Josh McDowell. When you sober up, yeah, would you read it? And he goes, I'll read your blanking book. And so I went ahead and dug it out of my car, gave it to him.

SPEAKER_02: 34:45

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01: 34:45

Didn't think anything of it. Ten years later, I came walking in my office, threw that book across the room, landed on my desk. He goes, I read your book 10 years ago. I trusted Christ as my savior. And um, and I've been serving the Lord ever since. I carry like 50 of these books in my car. I pass them out to everybody. I'm like, what in the how did you find me? I didn't put my what in the world. He said, I I I goes, I teach Sunday school at Crossroads Church, and all my middle schoolers went to Dare to Share this last weekend, and they told me about this guy that went to Westminster Mall and shared Christ with complete strangers. Oh my goodness. I was like, oh my goodness. So you just never know the pattern of the gospel, yeah, random to some drunk guy, yeah, totally changed the trajectory of his wife.

SPEAKER_00: 35:45

I mean, you can't, and it's I like to say you can't make this stuff up, right? And here's here's the thing, like maybe you could touch on a little bit. Um, and just even in my own walk, when I've like I tend to meet people all the time. My kids used to be like, mom, please don't meet anybody new at the grocery store. Like, um, you know, sometimes it's a matter, like I again, I I think you would agree, like just being so attuned to Holy Spirit and and what you're to share and how much to share. And yeah, sometimes you're gonna go all in with the gospel message, right? Sometimes it's truly like at least for me, um, and I might be missing the mark, but sometimes somebody just literally just needs a smile or they just need somebody to say hello and ask how your day is going. Um, you gave a book, you didn't necessarily like lead them to Christ that day yourself, right? Could you touch on that a little bit? Because I think sometimes people think I am responsible for this person's salvation.

SPEAKER_01: 36:48

Yeah, and so there's a balance in there, right? So I call it three dot theology. So dot three dot three dot number one is it's God's responsibility to save, right? Yeah, he can flip the switch from off to on. Dot number two, it's our responsibility to share, right? I want to hear from a preacher. Dot number three, it's their responsibility to believe. And here's the key don't connect the dots. Just own your dot. Your dot is to share the gospel, right? And again, using wisdom when timing, when you lean in, when you not, when you go all the way, when you just so what we do is we train uh not just teenagers, we train hundreds of thousands of adults in this. Three words ask, admire, admit. So ask questions, get to know them. Yeah, turn it spiritual. It gets a little awkward sometimes, but that's fine. We have a saying, awkward is awesome, because that's I love that. Yeah. So do you go to church anywhere? Is there anywhere I can pray for you? Do you have any spiritual beliefs? So you turn that conversation, like Jesus with the woman at the well, turn the conversation about water to living water, right? So we turn it spiritual, because awkward is awesome. Then we find out what they believe and we admire what we can. Well, I'm a Muslim. Well, you know what? Muslims pray five times a day, that's to be commended. Or I'm a Mormon. Well, Mormon is a committed to mission, and that's to be committed. Or I'm I'm a Catholic. Well, you have a spiritual belief and in God and the Trinity, you know. You find what you can to admire. That doesn't mean you agree with all their theology. Then you admit the reason you're a Christian is you're so sinful, you need a Jesus to save you. And that's when you share your story. So ask, admire, admit. But it does two things. One, for an evangelist like me, it slows me down. Because I want to go right to it, you know. Well, it's here, it's hot in hell too. Let me tell you, you know. My wife, who's very relational.

SPEAKER_00: 38:46

Yeah, I was gonna ask how what does she how does she operate?

SPEAKER_01: 38:49

It actually speeds her up because she would perpetually build a bridge. Okay. If she could, so it actually gets her to the gospel faster than she normally would. Okay. Because she's good at asking, she's gonna lean to that admire and then admit. And so I think ask, admire, admit is a is a great segue to normalizing gospel conversations in everyday life.

SPEAKER_00: 39:17

So do you find yourself like every day, like everywhere you go? Like, do you have a day that doesn't go by that you're not leaning into being evangelist?

SPEAKER_01: 39:28

Here's what here's what I would say is I pray for Bob every day. B-O-B. I pray for a burden for the lost, an opportunity to share Christ that day, and the boldness to walk through the door. And I would say more often than not, God answers that prayer.

SPEAKER_00: 39:44

I love that. So say Bob again. What's the acronym again?

SPEAKER_01: 39:47

B-O-B. Every my life is an acronym. Uh burden for the lost. O is opportunity uh to share Christ that day, and B is the boldness to walk through the door when God answers that prayer. So I pray for Bob every day. Burden, opportunity, and boldness.

SPEAKER_00: 40:04

I love that. Do you have do you have that on your website somewhere?

SPEAKER_01: 40:08

Like, no, that actually came from my buddy Dave Gibson up at Grace Church in Eden Prairie. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00: 40:13

Really?

SPEAKER_01: 40:14

And I yeah, he's the was the missions pastor there for years, and I just I stole it from him. It's great.

SPEAKER_00: 40:19

That's so good. I I love those acronyms because it really helps you remember, right? Yeah, exactly. Bob, I'm gonna pray for Bob too.

SPEAKER_01: 40:27

Yeah, and God, you just be ready when those opportunities arise.

SPEAKER_00: 40:31

Yeah. Have you ever had anybody like blatantly, you know, push you away? I guess you could say like tell us a crazy story. I want to hear a crazy story. A radical story. Let's use that word. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01: 40:46

Well, I remember when I was a teenager, I I talked to a Satanist at the mall. Okay. And he literally said he was going to burn with Satan forever and ever in hell. I thought it was gonna beat me up. And two hours later, uh, he was with uh six girls in this little restaurant inside the mall, three on one side, three on the other. And he starts yelling, hey religion man, and everybody's looking at me. I'm like, oh my goodness. Felt like a superhero, you know, religion. I walk over, yes, and he's like, Tell my girlfriend your stupid religious speech, and they're all mocking me.

SPEAKER_02: 41:24

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01: 41:25

Well, they start listening, and the Satanist is getting upset. Girls are locked in at the end. They ended up trusting Christ. He tried to get out from a behind the table to beat me up. He was way bigger than me. But these girls had him wedged in the corner of the booth and they wouldn't let him out. So I was like, guess what, Satanist? God wins again. Religion man wins. Religion man wins the day. I mean, just crazy. I've been picked up on my throat, I've been spat at slapped, I've been all that stuff. But you know, it's all persecution light. There's people, there's Christians in Nigeria, they're dying every day for their faith.

SPEAKER_02: 42:03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01: 42:04

Literally being slaughtered.

SPEAKER_02: 42:06

Yes.

SPEAKER_01: 42:08

So, you know, a little slapping can hurt you.

SPEAKER_00: 42:12

What what do you like? What are you sensing for, you know, uh just even in the times we're in right now, we're seeing um, you know, things are kicking up a little, wouldn't you say?

SPEAKER_01: 42:23

I would, I would definitely say, yeah. Just a little. It's a great time for revival. And it's also a it's also a potential time of train wrecking if we're not careful. Um the winds of revival are blowing. We have to hoist the sail of prayer. Uh, we need to get filled with the spirit. And what I mean by that, equal parts, courage and compassion. We need to have that courage, and we also need to have compassion, and we need to steer this ship toward the Great Commission because we don't do not want to crash on the shore of lesser things. So we need to keep it focused primarily on Christ and Him crucified and making it multiplying disciples. And that will change our nation from the inside out.

SPEAKER_00: 43:14

Absolutely. Do you find that the kids are hungrier right now than ever before?

SPEAKER_01: 43:20

Gen Z men, yeah, the stats are out, up. The um 50, I think it's 15% attendance among Gen Z boys in church. I think it's crazy.

SPEAKER_00: 43:33

So you say it's more young men than girls at this point right now?

SPEAKER_01: 43:37

Young men, at least, or what I would say are young men are at least making a comeback towards spiritual things. I think they're looking for answers. I think there's been a lot of obviously, you know, since the Charlie Kirk assassination, there's been that. But even before then, I think they're they're looking for definitive answers. On the negative side, you got podcasters like Andrew Tate that are, you know, are dragging people down in a um in a whole different level, you know. Um, but they're giving definitive answers. You got guys like Joe Rogan that are given definitive answers. You got people like Jordan uh Peters giving definitive answers. Well, we need to give definitive answers that are rooted in scripture, that are rooted in the authority of God's word. And I think they're looking, they're looking for answers because it's so confusing because all they do is swipe and you're getting a thousand answers a day. What is true? When you when you when you're able to say, man, this book, this this word of God, not the word of Google or TikTok, word of God is true. And here's why. Then I think people, you know, young young people resonate toward that.

SPEAKER_00: 44:42

Yes. Who like who other than you as being somebody that can help influence these young people? Who would you recommend? Like if you if there's some moms, dads listening in today, or even the young people, like who would you recommend they like books or um resources out there to to really tap into? Do you have some that you'd be yeah?

SPEAKER_01: 45:03

I mean, you know, Jenny Allen's got a lot of great stuff. Um she's really helped some of her books have helped my daughter. Um I mean, I think uh Craig Rochelle has got some stuff. There's phenomenal Louis Giglio, Shane Pruitt. Um yeah, there's a lot. If you start looking, there's you know, some good solid Christian stuff that they can they can follow. You know, I mean you know, it's a lot of and I I think some old timey preachers. I mean, yeah. I listened to Erwin Lutzer, uh Chuck Swindahl. Those are great old, you know, I mean, I think Chuck Swindl is close to 90 now.

SPEAKER_02: 45:47

Oh wow can reach.

SPEAKER_01: 45:49

That's amazing.

SPEAKER_00: 45:50

Yeah, that's where it's that's where you know I would say, like, you don't need to retire, you need to refire. Yeah, that's right. If you're called into something, you're not gonna want to quit.

SPEAKER_02: 45:59

That's exactly right.

SPEAKER_00: 46:01

Are you quitting? Are you ever gonna quit?

SPEAKER_02: 46:04

Me?

SPEAKER_00: 46:05

Yeah. No. No, no. Okay. Well, I know you have a resource, another resource. I want to make sure we don't forget about it. You have a book, or do you have more than one book?

SPEAKER_01: 46:15

I I have a I've written 23 books, actually, believe it or not. Yeah, you have volumes. 23 books you've never heard of. No. Um, most of them to teenagers and youth leaders, but um the last two have been for uh everyone for adults. Um one is called Unlikely Fighter, which is a memoir. It's 22 chapters long.

SPEAKER_02: 46:39

Okay.

SPEAKER_01: 46:39

First 21 chapters happened before I turned 16. So it's really about growing up in this crazy family. So it's a wild story. Unfiltered.

SPEAKER_02: 46:48

Umfiltered?

SPEAKER_01: 46:50

It's unfiltered. Okay. I was talking about Tyndale Publishing, and to they're like, there's too much violence in this book. I'm like, have you read the Bible?

SPEAKER_00: 46:59

Yeah, it's real, real story.

SPEAKER_01: 47:01

Yeah, real story. So um, so they said yes, praise the Lord. Um so and it's also an Audible. So I will read it to you myself if you get it on Audible. Um, and then the my latest book is called Radical Like Jesus. It's 21 challenges to live a revolutionary life. So 21 snapshots of the life of Jesus from the time he's 12 to the time he ascends into heaven, with every chapter's got a challenge that you take before you read the next chapter. So it's a great to do as a family together.

SPEAKER_00: 47:35

I've never heard of a book like that before. Like what what what how how did you get this? I mean, I'm I'm assuming I like to say Holy Ghost writer writes books, but like what was what happened? Like, were you out walking one day and it like that? Tell us more about that.

SPEAKER_01: 47:51

How did you get sick of all the just everything's let's have a meaning, let's have another study. I'm like, are we gonna actually do anything? Like, we're not here just to exegete the text, we have to execute the mission. Say that again. No, we don't want to just exegete the text. We want to do that. We want to draw out the meaning of the text and you know understand, but we have to execute the mission. Don't just be hearers of the word, be doers.

SPEAKER_02: 48:19

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01: 48:20

And Jesus blessed are you if you do these things. Not just cure these things, teaching them to obey everything I've commanded you. It's part of the great commission. And it's not just teaching them, it's teaching them to obey. And so this book is really about activating radical like Jesus is about activating your faith uh in very real-world um situations. And it goes from spiritual disciplines to actual evangelism where there will be some challenges.

SPEAKER_00: 48:51

Yeah. Um you give us an example? Like, would you be open to giving us like one challenge? Sure.

SPEAKER_01: 48:57

So I'll give you the hardest challenge. So all the challenges are broken up into easy, medium, and difficult.

SPEAKER_00: 49:05

Now, is it based on how far you get in the book, or you get to two?

SPEAKER_01: 49:09

No, no, no, I just mix it up. So some of them, some of them are easy, some of them are medium. Okay. Just a few of them are difficult. Well, one of the I'll give you the most difficult one for a lot of people. And it's to as a couple or as a group, go where there's homeless pe uh population, find a homeless person, see if you can take them out to lunch or dinner and hear their story, and if possible, share the gospel.

SPEAKER_02: 49:35

Wow.

SPEAKER_01: 49:36

This absolutely mortified my lovely bride.

SPEAKER_02: 49:40

Who did it?

SPEAKER_01: 49:41

Oh my goodness. Until we went. And we found this homeless guy.

SPEAKER_02: 49:48

Okay.

SPEAKER_01: 49:48

And he was I think he thought I was some kind of trafficker.

SPEAKER_02: 49:54

Oh no.

SPEAKER_01: 49:56

And my wife goes, please don't be afraid of my husband. Come with us, let us buy you dinner. And we just want to talk to you, just want to hear your story. Well, my wife could get anybody to do anything because she's so sweet. He came and he told us his whole story. And now he became homeless and it was interesting. And I shared the gospel with him. And he didn't place his faith in Christ, but we said goodbye. I thought my wife was gonna cry. And she told me, it was just she walked away and she said, I will never view a homeless person the same again. I will view all of them as a they have they have a story.

SPEAKER_02: 50:34

Yes, yes.

SPEAKER_01: 50:38

So there's 21 challenges. That's the probably the hardest one. Okay. But all of them will shift you to be more and more radical like Jesus. Not a radical for Jesus. We don't need any more of them. We need radicals who are like Jesus.

SPEAKER_00: 50:55

So powerful. I am so getting your book. And I'm gonna recommend it to my members.

SPEAKER_01: 51:00

I'll send you, I'll I'll send you one.

SPEAKER_00: 51:02

So I love that word radical. I think it's amazing. I shared with you before we got started. There's a a movie that I recently watched. And, you know, part of what I do even with clients, I tell them about movies to go watch. And this movie is so powerful. Um, it's called Radical. It's it's in Spanish, you know, English subtitles. So good about a teacher and just yeah, radical.

SPEAKER_01: 51:29

Yeah. Well, I'm gonna watch it with my wife because she's a teacher, she's a radical teacher.

SPEAKER_00: 51:34

It's so good. I I do feel like you know, so many of us um are called to to come out of the box, whatever that looks like in different ways. I like to say I I don't fit in a box, I burn boxes. There you go. Um, because he he's Jesus was wild. I mean, he truly was, like according to the world standard, right? What do you think is the like wildest thing about Jesus that you there's a book out called Jesus Mean and Wild.

SPEAKER_01: 52:02

It's interesting. What is it called? Jesus Mean and Wild. Oh and it's it's you know he's actually very pro-Jesus. This is uh, you know, uh um Jesus. I think he knew how to comfort the afflicted and afflict the comforted. He cleaned out the temple twice.

SPEAKER_02: 52:23

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01: 52:24

And once at the beginning of his ministry, once at the end, some people estimate up to 5,000 money changers. That he there's at least hundreds. Because he had such a zeal for the honor of his father and such a love for the broken, yeah. The way he interacted with the woman at the well. Jewish men wouldn't even talk to Jewish women in public, let alone Samaritan women, right? Would consider less than dogs by the Jewish community. But here Jesus is purposely going through Samaritan. I mean, yeah, every story. I mean, that's it was one of the fun things about writing radical like Jesus is just saying, oh my goodness, yeah, he was radical on every level. Yes. You know, yeah. I mean, even as a 12-year-old. He picks up in the back to just hang out and ask questions for three days. I don't even know where I was saying, where did he sleep? Or did he sleep? Did he just and he was synthesizing his systematic theology because they're they were amazed at his understanding, and that word is kind of the synthesis word. He is he's put things together faster than everything else. He's processing it, you know. Yeah, anyway, just Jesus is radical.

SPEAKER_00: 53:45

Yes. Well, who's who's your favorite like person in the Bible besides Jesus?

SPEAKER_01: 53:52

I'd say old testament's David. I just I love young David, especially. Young and hungry David, like telling Goliath.

SPEAKER_02: 54:03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01: 54:04

I love that story. I imagine him as a 15-year-old because he had seven older brothers, and only the three oldest were old enough to fight, and to be 20 years old and older to fight. There's a good chance he was like 15. Um he was definitely a teenager. Yeah, and then the apostle Paul in the New Testament, Paul. Yeah, just relentless apostle to the Gentiles and beat up, torn up, yeah, right, missing some teeth from all the stonings and beatings.

SPEAKER_00: 54:46

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01: 54:47

Yes, God used them in powerful ways. I love it.

SPEAKER_00: 54:49

Tenacious is all get up, right?

SPEAKER_01: 54:53

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00: 54:54

Well, this has been incredibly fun. And I'm so thankful for just the way that God, you know, rescued you, you know, at your young age, your whole family, like just the ripple effect of your yes. It's I'm sure it's incredible to think of um when you share your story again, right? Um, if you were to think of that one who's listening in today, um, do you have anything that you would like to share of them? Any words of encouragement or wisdom that you'd be led to share? And then would you pray us out today?

SPEAKER_01: 55:25

Sure, I'll do it. Um, I would say this if you don't know that you know that you know that you have eternal life, that you are saved, that you are going to heaven when you die, that God loves you. He created you to be in a relationship with him. He says, in our sins, they separate us from him. He's a holy God. And those sins cannot be removed by good deeds. So we're under God's wrath and headed toward hell, and there's nothing we can do about it. So God did something about it. 2,000 years ago, he sent his son Jesus into the world, and Jesus became one of us, the God man. Lived a perfect life we could never live, and died the death that we deserve, paid the price for all of our sins, past, present, and future on the cross. He said, It is finished. You died, he was buried, he rose again, proving he wasn't just another historical figure, he was God in the flesh. And now everyone who simply trusts in him alone has eternal life. It's not by trying, it's by trusting in Jesus and what he did for you on the cross. And as soon as you trust in him and say, God save me, I can't save myself. You need to please save me. In that moment of faith, you receive the gift of eternal life. And that life that Jesus starts now and lasts forever. It's not a license to sin, it's a reason to serve God with all your heart because you're grateful for the free gift of eternal life. So if you've never placed your faith in him, trust in Jesus right now, receive that gift of eternal life. If you have already trusted in him, share that message. You got the winning lotto ticket. You got something worse than cancer. Share it with everyone you can in a loving, compassionate, prayerful way. And God can use you. Let me pray for you. Father, I just thank you for this time. Thank you for this podcast. Use it to encourage many uh with the hope of Jesus Christ, the power of the gospel and the potential of young people. In Jesus' name. Amen.

SPEAKER_00: 57:19

Amen. Well, thank you, Greg, for being a brave voice who's setting so many free. I'm gonna close with the anchoring verse over Hope Unlocked. It's may the God of hope fill you with all joy and peace and believing, so that by the power of the Holy Spirit you may abound in hope. And that's Romans 15, 13. So thank you. I will be sure to add everything to the show notes how you can get a hold of Greg. Um, do you want to just share really quick what's the best way to get a hold of you? And then I'll also add it.

SPEAKER_01: 57:45

Maybe on Instagram or Twitter. I'm just Greg Steer, S-T-I-E-R. Just Greg Steer.

SPEAKER_00: 57:52

Sounds good. Well, we'll link that up in the show notes and be sure to reach out to him, grab his book. I can't wait to read it. And I'll be back with another episode next week. Have a good one.