Stop Striving, Start Transforming: The Power of Belief with Wendy Backlund

Transformation starts with belief. In this episode, Wendy Backlund shares how renewing the mind reshapes identity, calling, emotions, and spiritual authority. We discuss hidden beliefs about worth, breaking performance Christianity, and daily practices that make change stick—declarations, movement, and music. A powerful conversation to help you walk in confidence, peace, and the truth of who God designed you to be.

Wendy's contact info:

Website - https://www.ignitinghope.com/wendybacklund

Email - info@ignitinghope.com

Wendy's books

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Chapters

• 0:16 Welcome And Intentions For Hope
• 0:55 Meet Wendy: From Performance To Renewal
• 2:27 Sacrifice vs Renewing The Mind
• 3:57 Breaking Poverty And Self‑Worth Limits
• 7:28 Declarations That Stick: Brain And Body
• 10:57 Music As A Gate To Belief
• 12:18 Seeing The Unseen: Matrix Moments
• 16:47 Practicing Life In The Spirit
• 20:57 Feelers, Atmospheres, And Authority
• 25:53 Identity Before Performance
• 30:50 Authoring Your Future Identity
• 35:10 Victorious Emotions And Daily Belief
• 38:48 Prayer, Release, And Closing Blessing

Transcript

SPEAKER_01: 0:16

Welcome to the Hope Unlock Podcast. I'm your host, Kristen Kurtz, and I'm also the founder of New Wings Coaching. I help and empower wild-hearted and adventurous women of faith feeling caged and stuck, unlock their true purpose and potential, break free from limitations, and thrive with confidence, courage, and hope. If you're curious to learn more about coaching with me, head to NewWinkscoaching.net and be sure to explore the show notes for ways to connect with me further. Get ready to dive in as we uncover empowering keys and insights in this episode. So tune in and let's unlock hope together. Welcome to the Hope Unlocked podcast. I'm Kristen Kurtz, your host. I pray this episode is like a holy IV of hope for your soul. Please help me welcome Wendy Beckland to the show. I am thrilled to have her here today. I know that she is going to have so much to share with you all about hope and about identity. And I just can't wait to hear more of her story because she's just been somebody that I've really looked up to and I really want to be like Wendy when I grow up. So, Wendy, before we get started, would you just share a little bit about yourself?

SPEAKER_00: 1:19

Sure. Um, I got saved as a hippie back in the 70s. Um and I got radically saved, but my whole life ended up just, you know, being in performance, it from a relationship to performing for God, which I didn't do very well, which caused some um emotional issues and depression and feeling like I never measured up. And finally, I I read some books about um declarations and that let me put it this way: my husband and I, the church we were going to when we got saved, we were very big on um sacrifice, you know, Romans 12:1, giving it a living sacrifice acceptable to God. And so it was all about sacrificing our time, sacrificing our money, whatever was, you know, it was always a sacrifice. And um what really set me free was he began to talk to us about Romans 12, too, where it says, be transformed by the renewing of your mind. And he just began to deal with us that we don't get our lives are not transformed through sacrifice. Sacrifice is good, but it's not transformational. And he began to talk to us about if you really want to see a change in your life, you have to change what you believe. Yes, yes. That I cannot tell you how my life changed with just this one simple truth. And it was like if you want a different emotion, if you want a different circumstance, you have to have a different belief system because the belief system that got you where you are won't get you out. Yeah. So anytime we want to even upgrade in our life, whether it's emotionally or in our circumstance, we have to go after a belief system that's tying us to the circumstance we're in.

SPEAKER_01: 3:42

Yes. Well, tell me about maybe a circumstance that you felt like kind of stuck in at some point and you had to really get it after and get over, right? I like to say get over it.

SPEAKER_00: 3:53

Right. Well, there's so many. Um, I think I'll take one that's simple to understand. We started really going after believing the promises of God because for a long time as Christians, we just had a theology of God's goodness, a theology of God's provision, but we didn't really have faith for it. And so we we realized that we had a spirit of poverty on us because we could never get ahead financially. You know, it was always just living from paycheck to paycheck. Um, and we would get blessed, and then something would break down and it would eat up the whole blessing that we just received. Right. And so I decided, okay, God, I'm gonna go after this. And so I started making these declarations that we were blessed, that we had more than enough for every good work. And making these declarations, and nothing was changing. And so finally I'm like, okay, God, I'm doing a declaration, but the belief system isn't working. And he said, The problem is, is you're only able to receive what you think you're worth. And he said, It's no longer a spirit of poverty right now. The problem is, is I'm trying to bless you, but you sabotage the blessing because you're always trying to live at the level that you value yourself at.

SPEAKER_03: 5:30

Wow.

SPEAKER_00: 5:31

And so I had to change my belief system that I was actually worthy to be blessed above where I was.

SPEAKER_03: 5:39

Yes.

SPEAKER_00: 5:40

And even, you know, Steve and I have gone from different measures of blessings, and sometimes he'll warn me and he'll say, Wendy, I'm about to bless you financially above what you think you're worth again. And it he'll say, You need to work on your identity again. And it's not just finances, it was favor. Okay, it was jobs, it was so intense about what we believe about ourselves. It's God's trying to get the blessing to us, but we have a um in the unseen realm, it's like we were asking for something but holding it back at the same time. Wow. Because we're asking for something that we don't think we're worth worthy to receive. Yes.

SPEAKER_01: 6:36

So what did it, I mean, what did it look like for you? How long, you know, tangibly somebody might be like, okay, well, how how long did it take you to really get this in you to the point where it, you know, I before we got started, I asked you a question about something else that I want to um talk about later. But how long did it take you to really get that in from the head to the heart, right? Because there's a difference.

SPEAKER_00: 6:59

Oh, yeah. I mean, that's the whole thing is God told me that you'll know you believe something if it's changed your emotions. If your belief system hasn't changed your emotions, you don't believe it yet. And so that's how we measure our how much we believe what God says.

SPEAKER_03: 7:22

Okay.

SPEAKER_00: 7:23

That's not for condemnation, it's just so we know, okay, I still haven't got it from intellectual to heart knowledge yet. And so, like I said, it's a process and it's I think the first breakthrough came early in the 1990s when he began to talk to me about my my hopelessness about my identity and who I was. I just I decided, okay, I'm gonna test this out. I am going to radically shift my belief system about who and what I think I am. So probably for I don't know, anywhere from nine to 12 months, I wrote down declarations on three by five cards. I recorded them on a tape recorder to music because if you if you're doing and I listened to it at night, I would go to sleep with earbuds in, listening to myself tell me who I was in Christ and that I was worthy because of the blood of Jesus and that God wanted to bless me. You know, I just had all these declarations, and I, you know, this may be too much information, but I actually had declarations and I put them next to the toilet in my bathroom. Yes. Every time I went to the bathroom, I said those declarations. I wasn't allowed to get up until I had gone through the list. Well, talk about the royal throne. Yes, exactly. I mean, we have to put it where we'll see it all the time.

SPEAKER_03: 9:03

Yes, yeah.

SPEAKER_00: 9:04

And the more we say it and the more emotion you use in your voice when you say it, the quicker you'll start to believe it. Yes. I did some studies on the brain to figure out how, because this is all it is, is our brain is a computer that needs a new download. And so I looked up how do you change what your brain thinks is true? Okay. And so number one was repetition. Number two was using emotion when you say it.

SPEAKER_03: 9:41

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_00: 9:42

And if you use like a shake your fist in the air or stomp your foot, if you involve your body in the declaration, it will also quicken your ability to believe it.

SPEAKER_01: 9:54

I did not know that. Wow.

SPEAKER_00: 9:56

Yeah. And then music is another thing that will actually, if you it's like music is a gatekeeper. That's why a lot of worship songs have declarations in them or scripture. Because when we're in that mode, it does something to the brainwave when you're listening to music. It's like it shuts down the gatekeeper that's trying to keep that truth from penetrating. So true. Yes. So that's why worship, one of the reasons is it's not just to worship him, but hearing worship songs or songs that declare who you are helps change what you believe.

SPEAKER_03: 10:38

Okay.

SPEAKER_01: 10:39

Do you have somebody might be wondering, and and I'm wondering because I'm always I'm a very curious, I'm a woman of wonder. So what is your favorite song that maybe you've had on repeat lately or even years ago that really helped to um just settle this in your heart?

SPEAKER_00: 10:57

Yeah, well, I think some one of it not so much anymore, but um Lauren Daigold's um You said Oh yes, yes, that's a good one. Yeah, so any song like that, um I'll even use songs like from um from the movie um uh what's the what's the movie with Olaf and um um I'm I don't know what you're talking about. Frozen, yes, yes. So in Frozen 2, there's some songs in there that you know she's hearing that voice calling her into a place that she's never been. Yeah, it's guiding her. I use that to keep me in that place of God. I want more, I want to see the unseen, I want to know your realm. Yes, you know, so that inspires me. It's not stuff that I listen to as much. We just need to find a song to that inspires us into what we we know we're called to, or what is the lie that we need to break off? Find a song and listen to it before every every um time of prayer so that you're getting yourself, you know, in the right frame of mind.

SPEAKER_01: 12:28

Um that's so good. I love how you mentioned to, you know, somebody might be like, Well, Frozen 2, that's not that's not a Christian movie. It's like, no, no, no, no. He can speak through any movie. He, I mean, he speaks to, I don't know about you, but I he speaks to me through pretty much every movie. I I know. Do you have do you have a favorite movie that he's spoken to you through?

SPEAKER_00: 12:52

Um, probably The Matrix has had the most lasting okay.

SPEAKER_01: 12:58

Yeah, that's a good one. It's it's it's definitely a good one to open your eyes, right?

SPEAKER_00: 13:44

Wow, because I I really feel like the average person in this world is totally unaware that there's a whole nother realm. You know, they're stuck into believing what they've always been told is true. And you know, I I like to tell people that if the Bible hasn't changed your view of reality, you're not reading it correctly. Yeah. The Bible is God's attempt to show us a whole new reality that's that can be accessed as born-again spirits. Yes.

SPEAKER_01: 14:23

Yes. What does it look like for you? Um, because I don't know about you. We're there's many of us right now who are walking, at least for me, I feel like a lot of my life looks just very wild to people and crazy. And I know that you guys have walked through I call it the wildlife, right? Um, what does that look like for you guys to, you know, people in the Bible? Look at Jesus. Like everything was so counter-culture, and the steps they took, the moves they made, like didn't make sense on paper, right? So how how have you like when you first started stepping into this? Because when did you get saved? What age were you at?

SPEAKER_00: 15:12

We got saved in 1975. Okay, so you were a young age?

SPEAKER_01: 15:18

Yes, 18 and 19. 18 and 19, wow. Okay, so you had life before you. You had some life before you said you were hippie, and I had some life before me as well. And to come into a whole different realm of reality as a believer, it takes, at least for me, it took some time to come into this place of like, oh, there's actually more than what I'm being taught here, right? We talked a little bit about that in the beginning. How did you start to come into this place of like there is more? There is the supernatural. What did that look like for you guys? Or did it happen like, you know, pretty quickly after you got saved?

SPEAKER_00: 16:00

No, it it was probably 15 years after we got saved. Because we we were like most the average Christian for the first 15 years. You're just doing your best, trying to please God, trying to love him and do what you know to do. And um it just it was just really difficult for me because I I'm it was like I was trying to act like something I didn't believe I was. And what happened was he began to talk to me about um but the fact that I cannot perform my way into um a place with him to earn healing or to earn provision or whatever it was, and he began to talk to me about the spirit realm and that most Christians they get born again of the spirit, and then they're told to stay out of the spirit realm. Yes, yeah, and we're the only ones with legal access, you know, the Satanists, the new agers, the um all of those groups, they're in the spirit realm illegally, and then they're making us afraid to use it. And I had this encounter with God where I got up in the middle of the night to pray and I was just waiting on God, and he would referred me to the scripture where Jesus had died, and the disciples were in that locked room, and then Jesus just appeared. And I'm sitting there waiting, and I hear in my in my head Jesus go, Wendy, do you know how I got into the locked room? And I'm like, Well, you were dead, so you were ghost-like, so you could walk through walls, you know, because in all the movies that I've seen before I was saved, ghosts they have no substance, right? They can walk through things, and he said, No, I'm more real than the wall. And as I was trying to figure out what he was saying, he said, Wendy, the creator cannot have less substance than the creation. And something happened in me, and I realized, oh, this spirit realm actually has more substance than this natural realm.

unknown: 18:34

Wow.

SPEAKER_00: 18:35

Because everything was made by the spirit, and so it has to have more substance. And it really helped me to have more faith in God because up to that point, God was had no substance, and the things of the spirit had no substance. And in fact, my spirit had no substance. I didn't need, I was not even living from my spirit, I was living as a human. And I wasn't realizing that I have to take care of my spirit, I have to listen to my spirit man, because my spirit man, according to Ephesians 2, is already seated in heavenly places. Therefore, it knows everything about heaven and earth. But if I'm not listening, and if I'm trying to hear God with my natural ear rather than spirit to spirit, I'm gonna miss a lot of what God's trying to do. Yes, yes, so it to me it was all about building up my spirit man, and and I had to learn how to differentiate when I was living from my spirit as a spirit and when I was living as a human and doing things from my own strength, my own human strength. Yes, yes, but I practice being a spirit. I try to train my brain. What does it feel like when my spirit man is the most um I don't know how to put it, substantial part of who I am. Yeah. And I when people, if they've never done this before, what I like to say is think back to the most wonderful time of worship or the greatest prayer time you Ever had. Remember what it felt like when something rose up inside of you? And it was like, Yeah, I can take the demons of hell. I believe, I know something rose up. That was your spirit, man, coming into preeminence. Yes. Amen. Practice that state of being.

SPEAKER_01: 20:58

What do you do? I mean, are you in that state of being? Do you feel it every day? Because I know as I've like grown into this journey, I I feel like I'm just constantly in awe and wonder. Like I don't know how to be normal. Quote unquote.

unknown: 21:18

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00: 21:18

It well, it's something that I'm at least part of the day every day because whenever I have devotions and when I'm praying, I don't like to pray until I know I'm praying as a spirit. Because my spirit knows how to pray, but my mind doesn't. So the key is is recognizing when I've stepped out of the spirit and I'm functioning just as a human and bringing my awareness back. I like to be self-aware of what's driving me, my mind or my spirit.

SPEAKER_03: 21:59

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00: 22:00

And so I practice bringing myself back into the spirit, whether it's just a moment of you know, praying in the spirit or just reminding myself how real God is, and that my real self is powerful and a spirit being that has authority to shift atmospheres, to walk into a room, you know, and you said you were a feeler, right? Oh, yes. The thing that I love about feelers, because it it doesn't sound like a fun thing when you walk into a room and you feel you know the spirits of perversion or anger or depression, and they used to influence me all the time. So my emotions were up and down.

SPEAKER_03: 22:47

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00: 22:48

But once I realized that oh, if if a spirit or somebody carrying a spirit can influence me, then how much more can the spirit of God in me influence them? Yes. Because light is more powerful than darkness, and so it it increased my ability to believe I can walk into a store and instead of feeling, you know, all the chaos or whatever's going on, I now have this belief system that ah, but light's more powerful than darkness. I bring peace when I walk into the store. Yes. And so it's become fun to know that what I carry is greater than what's in the world.

SPEAKER_01: 23:37

Yes. Well, and how long, like how long was it before you knew that you were a feeler? Because I know just even growing up, I've always been a feeler, but I didn't know I was a feeler. So I would come under other, you know, I'd be around somebody, and all of a sudden I was like, why why do I feel like I want to commit suicide? You know, even as a young kid. And it wasn't until within the last five years that I even knew that I was a feeler. And I'm 48 as of a couple days ago. So that's a long time to go. And and then to just know, like, okay, this is not me. To ask the question, is this me? Right. Do you do that as well?

SPEAKER_00: 24:19

Yeah, I don't have to as much now just because I'm so used to being more aware of what I carry than what is out there. But I I really believe a lot of people who are afraid to go out, they don't like to be in crowds. They're usually feelers. And even a people who suffer with a lot of depression, a lot of them are also feelers and they don't know what to do with it, and they don't even know why they're depressed or why this they feel overwhelmed. And the key is to actually begin to develop an inner life that is bigger than what the world is expressing.

SPEAKER_01: 25:06

Yes, that's huge.

SPEAKER_00: 25:07

But it takes time, and you have to do it in your private time. Like for me, the process went this way. I used to go to um to prayer at night after I put my kids to bed, and I would be, you know, overwhelmed or depressed. And I would just kind of pray from that state of being. And God said, Okay, Wendy, you can't shift your. We were pastors at the time, and I was like trying to shift the atmosphere of our town. And he said, You can't shift the town's atmosphere until you can shift your own. No, that's a word. Yeah. Say that again. Yeah, you can't shift the town's atmosphere until you can shift your own. Did you guys hear that? What he did was he said, be aware, okay. What are you feeling? Depressed, overwhelmed, frustrated, put on worship music that is the exact opposite. Yeah. And dance before the Lord, shout before the Lord, make declarations until you shift your atmosphere and you feel on top again. Yes. And then I used to do that. We would we lived next to the church back in the day. And so I would go to the church and pray, and I was shifting my atmosphere, and it was getting really good. And then somebody heard I was going to the church at night and praying, and they said, Can I join you? And I'm like, Oh, sure, you know. But what I didn't know was that God set me up because she came in with her atmosphere.

SPEAKER_02: 26:45

Okay.

SPEAKER_00: 26:46

And it was like, I would try to counsel her out of it. And I'm like, God, can I disinvite her? Because I can't pray.

SPEAKER_03: 26:53

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00: 26:54

What she's carrying is blocking me. And he said, No, I want you to stop trying to counsel her. And I want you to shift her atmosphere just by your presence in your belief system.

unknown: 27:09

Wow.

SPEAKER_00: 27:10

So whatever I would feel she came into the room with, I would do it. I put on the opposite of in music, and I would dance and I'd sing until whatever was over her broke.

SPEAKER_01: 27:23

Yes. And so then was it quick too?

SPEAKER_00: 27:27

Well, at first it was slow going, but probably after three, three, four nights, yeah, it got easier and easier and easier. Yeah. Probably depending on how deep she was into whatever she was carrying. And then he enlarged it. I would walk into church. And I used to have, you know, I'd be feeling what's going on in the church. And it would be like, oh, there's such a spirit of heaviness. We can't break through in worship. And God said, okay, now you're going to build a muscle to shift an even greater atmosphere. Wow. Caused by a group of people. So it's just like lifting weights. We we try to shift whole, you know, a whole store before we even know how to do our own. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01: 28:20

I'm I I mean, I've been there. I I actually bought a book back in 2020. It was like territorial spirits. And the Lord's like, no, no, this is not. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00: 28:35

Not right now. It's building a muscle and it it's a spiritual muscle, but it's also a belief system muscle. Because we have to change what we believe about ourselves and how powerful we are and what we are. If we're trying to shift an atmosphere as a human, humans can't shift atmospheres, only spirits can. And so it's important to first, you know, connect spirit to spirit with God and become one. Like I practice being light. Part of my devotion time is okay, God is light, I'm light, we're one. And I will just picture what my spirit man looks like as light. And I don't know, this might help somebody. You know, when we think about the angelic in the demonic realm, we think, or most people tend to think that angels and demons see us as humans, but if we're born again of the spirit, they actually our spirit has more substance than our body to does to them. Wow. They see our spirit man first and then the body because they live in a spirit realm and they see the weakness or the strength of our spirit. So the more we practice being aware of our spirit, the greater power and authority we carry in the spirit realm.

SPEAKER_01: 30:14

Yes, that's so good. You I think you just unlocked something for somebody, and even me. Like it's something for me to even remember, right? Yeah. We can forget. We can forget these things. Um, you know, I I do want to make sure that we talk a little bit about uh your voice. Because you are a powerhouse, and I don't know, I'm sure people have said this to you before. Um, but you have so much wisdom that is shared. You have these nuggets, they're like power drops. Um, but there was a time when maybe you had kind of some hesitation with your voice. And I would love for you to just talk a little bit about that because in my world, I talk to quite a few women who've just really struggled with their voice, whether it's releasing a song or releasing a book or releasing maybe they want to they're being led to start a podcast or get on a stage. There's there's a lot of women that are really challenged in stepping forward in that realm. Would you be willing to share a little bit about your story?

SPEAKER_00: 31:20

Oh, for sure. Um it's there were so many levels to it. I think first was I thought I was shy. I thought that's just who I am. And so I struggled speaking. I would get around, you know, a group of people, and I couldn't think of anything to say. It was like my mind would go blank. There was so much warfare. And I think the first thing that God did was I started getting prophetic words that I was a teacher. And I remember rejecting it because it was like, well, that involves public speaking. I can't even speak one-on-one. Right. Right. And he began to tell me about my future, that I was to be a speaker and an author, and that my voice was powerful. And so I'm like trying to tell him no, I don't speak well in front of people, I'm shy. Right. And this is what he said. He said, Wendy, that's not who you are, that's just who you've become. And he said, There's a big difference between what you've become and what you are. We tend to get our identity from what we've done or haven't done. And this was when he used the whole apple thing. He said, Is an apple, what is an apple tree if it's never had apples? It's like, well, it's still an apple tree, whether it's experienced birthing apples or not, because the apple tree gets its identity from what it was created to do, not from what it's done. And he said, We have to start getting our identity not from what we've done, but from what we're created to do.

SPEAKER_01: 33:19

Amen.

SPEAKER_00: 33:20

And so if you're created to be a speaker, if you're created to be an author, if you're created to have influence, then we have to begin to define ourselves by it.

SPEAKER_01: 33:32

Yes.

SPEAKER_00: 33:33

You know, we have to. I he told me when I started getting prophetic words about writing, I started saying, I write books, you know, and that was one of my declarations, and nothing happened for sure way too many years. And I'm how many years?

SPEAKER_01: 33:49

How many can you share?

SPEAKER_00: 33:50

Five. Five years, I declared I was a writer. Okay. And he's when I went to him finally and said, It's still not working, I can't write up right. Yeah, he said, I need you to change your declaration. And I'm like, Okay, I wasn't full of faith at this point. But I want you to declare that you're an author, not a that you write books. And I remember thinking, but in the dictionary, an author is someone who's already written books, isn't that lying? And he said, no, because it's not lying to call an apple tree an apple tree before it's had apples, is it? Boom. Yeah. So it was like, okay, I'm an author. And he went so far as to say, if you never write a book when you die in heaven, you'll still be known as an author.

unknown: 34:46

Wow.

SPEAKER_00: 34:47

Because it was what you were created to do. Yeah, so profound. Yeah, it's not about your experience. We can't allow experience to define us. And when you come into agreement with what you were created to do and to be, even with righteousness, so you will not be able to fulfill the righteousness that's within you until you come into agreement that you were created for righteousness. Because if you try to do what you don't think you are, you're you're gonna you're opposing yourself. And God never requires us to do something we're not. That's the key. Yeah, because the only reason he can require us to be righteous, the only reason he can require us to heal the sick and raise the dead is because we are supernatural. The reason he tells us to do those things is because he's trying to tell us who we are, not what to do.

SPEAKER_01: 36:08

It's it's the being, yeah, the doing, right? The the doing comes out of the being.

SPEAKER_00: 36:15

Yeah, and it and otherwise we're our brain will will always sort short circuit us into doing what we think we are. You know, even being a Christian, I a lot of times I I would ask God, why is it that so many people get radically saved and then they just fall away? And he said, it's because they're trying to act like a Christian, but they don't believe that they are something different. So they're trying to do what they don't believe they are. And it's called acting. Yeah, yeah. We have to get out of acting mode and actually believe we are something. And that so many things I was trying to get rid of in my life, old habits that were so difficult, they just fell away when I started believing something different about myself. So good.

SPEAKER_01: 37:17

Well, Wendy, I know you have to run. Um, I want to make sure that I honor your time. Um, could you just share a little bit, just a little nugget about your book, Victorious Emotions? Because I know that that would be something potentially for the listeners to tap into even today. Oh, sure.

SPEAKER_00: 37:34

Yeah, I wrote that book. Is that your first book? No, it's my second book. Your second. Okay. Just because I was in bondage to my emotions for so many years. I mean, I actually would wake up every morning thinking, how do I feel today? And I would think about this is the process. I would think about what I had to do that day. If it was a lot, I would feel overwhelmed. Oh, yeah, it's gonna be a busy day. I feel overwhelmed. And I would feel overwhelmed before I even got through half the day. Wow. Or depressed or intimidated, you know, whatever it was. And God said, That's the wrong question. First question every day should be, what do I believe today?

SPEAKER_01: 38:22

What do I believe today?

SPEAKER_00: 38:23

Yeah, that's that's always should be our first thing. Don't ask how you feel in the morning, ask what do you believe? Oh yeah. Everywhere I go, revival go follows me. Oh yeah, I am the blessed, I am the the head and not the tail. Use scripture to define your day before even get started. But anyway, the book is just um steps for rewiring the brain to believe what God says.

SPEAKER_03: 38:55

Yes.

SPEAKER_01: 38:56

Well, I'll link it in the show notes for sure, and then I'll also link your other book, your first book, baby, because that's a very important book, baby. Yeah, the first book was Living from the Unseen. Yeah. And that was your first one that took you to be the developed apple tree. Yes, yeah.

SPEAKER_00: 39:15

Living from the unseen actually was the hope bringer because I had been trying to be a Christian as a human.

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So good. Well, you guys check it out. I'll I'll link it in the show notes. Um, I do like to end the show with if you could just get in mind um somebody who's listening in today. Do you have any other um words of knowledge or words of wisdom that you'd like to speak over this um woman or man who's listening in? And then would you pray us out today?

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Sure. Yeah, I I think the biggest thing I'm sensing is that somebody is being set free by the concept about changing what they believe about themselves. And I I this is what I'm sensing is that people have been telling you things about yourself, but you've been rejecting what they say because you think you know you, and God's been trying to speak through that person to tell you who you really are. They are not that mistaken about the things that they're telling you that you can do. You can do it because it's what you were created to do. So, Father, I thank you that lives are radically being shifted. Transformed. We just speak to every spiritual Christian here that your spirit is alive and well. I call it forth to rise up within you, to begin to make the shift of the atmosphere that your that your spiritual muscle is being increased right now in Jesus' name. Who you are is beginning to just um rise up in you. Rise up, rise up, arise and shine, arise and shine, arise and shine. I bind up the lies that have been making you small and making you think you need to be small and to have false humility. I come against that spirit in Jesus' name and I loose the voices of those who have been bound by the enemy who has gagged their mouth and made them choke on the things that need to be spoken. I release your voice in Jesus' name. I release the hope and the joy that God has been bringing to you. And I speak to your worthiness. You are worthy because of what Christ has done for you and in you. In Jesus' mighty name. Amen.

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Amen. Thank you, Wendy. I'm sure people are going to want to get a hold of you. What is the best way that people can reach you? And I'll throw that in the show notes as well.

SPEAKER_00: 42:16

Yes, the ignitinghope.com. Okay. Or um Facebook igniting hope. You'll find everything.

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Do you have any special events coming up soon?

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I you know, I did not write any of that down and we just moved. So my hands are you're just settling.

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You're getting settled. I love it. Well, I'm gonna close with the anchoring verse. It's may the God of hope fill you with all joy and peace in believing, so that by the power of the Holy Spirit you may abound in hope. I just love that word, abound in hope. Romans 15, 13. So I will be back with another episode next week. Thank you so much, Wendy, for being on. Would love to have you back another time. You have so much more to share, I'm sure. So thank you again. Bye bye. Bye.