When Art Becomes Encounter: The Creative Move of God with Claudette Ross

In this inspiring conversation, prophetic artist Claudette Ross shares how creativity can become a pathway to peace, healing, and deeper connection with God. We explore how art, worship, and spiritual sensitivity intersect—and how simple obedience can unlock bold expression, renewed confidence, and surprising breakthroughs. Claudette opens up about cultivating a creative lifestyle, listening to the Holy Spirit while creating, and learning to trust the process even when it shifts midstream. Whether you feel blocked, disconnected from your gifts, or unsure you’re “artistic,” this episode offers hope, encouragement, and permission to step into your own creative calling.

Claudette's contact info:

Website - cjross.com

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Chapters

• 0:00 Welcome And Guest Reintroduction
• 2:05 Claudette’s Pivot Into Prophetic Painting
• 4:10 From Acrylics To Watercolors And A Rainbow Sign
• 6:20 Art That Moves People To Tears
• 8:50 Painting Others’ Visions And Dreams
• 11:20 Website Launch And Holy Spirit Encounters Online
• 14:00 Classes, Commissions, And Going Global
• 16:20 Book Plans And Devotional Ideas
• 18:00 Favorite Piece: “Surrender” And Its Impact
• 22:14 Live Worship Painting And Church Alignment
• 24:29 Speed, Freestyle Process, And Shimmer Touches
• 26:44 Breaking Creative Block And Spiritual Warfare
• 29:44 Scripture, Peace Practices, And Nature
• 32:44 Coaching Testimony And Boldness Breakthrough
• 35:44 Encouragement To Seek God And Closing Prayer
• 40:14 Contact Info And Hope Benediction

Transcript

SPEAKER_00: 0:16

Welcome to the Hope Unlock Podcast. I'm your host, Kristen Kurtz, and I'm also the founder of New Wings Coaching. I help and empower wild-hearted and adventurous women of faith feeling caged and stuck, unlock their true purpose and potential, break free from limitations, and thrive with confidence, courage, and hope. If you're curious to learn more about coaching with me, head to NewWingsCoaching.net and be sure to explore the show notes for ways to connect with me further. Get ready to dive in as we uncover empowering keys and insights in this episode. So tune in and let's unlock hope together. Welcome to the Hope Unlocked Podcast. I'm Kristen Kurtz, your host. I pray this episode is like a holy IV of hope for your soul. Please help me welcome Claudette Ross to the show. I'm so excited to have her back on today. She is a dear friend, and I've had the privilege of walking alongside her in some of her journey the last um couple few years. She actually came on back in November. It was November 10th. The episode was released in 2023. And her episode is number 33 if you wanted to go back and listen to more of her story. But even since then, a lot has changed and some things have pivoted in her life. And I just want to have her back on to share where she's at and what's going on in her life. So would you just briefly share a little bit about yourself and we'll get into what you're here to share about today?

SPEAKER_01: 1:39

Hi, Kristen. Thank you so much for having me back. I'm so excited to be here. Um, I am still living in beautiful Nova Scotia, Canada, and um loving the time here by the ocean. Um a lot has changed since the last time I was on your podcast. Um, you know, huge pivot. Um, this year was the year of change for me, was the word the Lord gave me. And boy, did he ever change things in my life and um very exciting things. Um, there's been huge changes over the last few years, since, you know, and um one of the biggest changes is that he's um really filled my life with a lot of color. A lot of color, and that involves painting. So he's taken me down on that journey of painting. I I do prophetic painting, and that's what I'll be talking about. And um, it's it's certainly all through him. I'm you know, I'm taking action of listening to him and doing the things, but he certainly is, you know, speaking to my heart all the time.

SPEAKER_00: 2:48

Yes, absolutely. And I've I've seen so much of what you create with his intention behind the paintbrush, right? So, how long have you been painting? Like, have you always been into like creative art, all that kind of wonderful, like creative expression?

SPEAKER_01: 3:07

Um, actually, oh it's only been a couple years. I mean, I did paint um, I think back in 2018, just a couple little things, but nothing major. Um, I was never really someone who was like drawing or that type of thing. But a couple years ago, he just like it was, I think in uh January um 2023, it was, and he just kind of inspired me like to just go pick up paints and paintbrush and start painting. And I was like, okay, so I, you know, I started painting with acrylic, which I still do paint acrylic, and so for that full year I was painting acrylic, but then last year, um, in the beginning of last year, it was just like I just felt this like I really want to try out watercolors. So I started painting with watercolors, and wow, like it, I was just like, like he just started me off with I was like, Yeah, I was driving down the driveway. Um, I felt the Holy Spirit telling me like to take a photo of the sky, right? Because I take a photo a lot of the sky, the clouds, and and when I got back, I looked at my photos and there was actually a rainbow around the sun. And so he asked me, you know, or like it was prompting me to paint that, what I had seen, right? And so I did, and then just like he started just like spilling words to me of you know, words, and I was like writing things out and right, you know, and writing on the painting and writing scripture and stuff, and I was like, this is really you know, this is really neat. And so I just started like painting, you know, whatever he was putting on my heart, and and um yeah, like it was just it's really kind of cool.

SPEAKER_00: 4:51

Yes, I I mean I've I remember seeing some of the early paintings you did, even with the acrylic, and um obviously, like as you said, you know, this is really new. So 2018 was that you said when you had your first kind of you were kind of dabbling a little bit in the arts a little bit, yeah. So even uh were you painting as a child or coloring? Do you remember as a child being fascinated by painting or anything?

SPEAKER_01: 5:22

No, no, just you know, not really. I mean, just you know, color and color and pages and stuff like that. And and back then, like if watercolor just seemed like it was just like you know, you put a little bit of dab, a paintbrush, and a little bit of water with like that little puck. It was like a uh color puck, and it just really didn't seem to do anything for me. Do you know what I mean? Like I but now like I cannot get enough of using watercolor of painting, and just it's just like wow, and when I first started doing it, I didn't realize the magnitude that it has and the impact not just on me but on other people. And I started like just you know, painting, writing, and then what happened is a couple months into this, um, I shared this with someone because someone started asking me about my notebook, and I shared it with someone, and I didn't even know this person. He this person was a stranger to me. And as he was looking through my notebook, he had tears coming down his face, and he was like, you know, like he who was just a new Christian for like the last nine months or whatever, and and he was like, These are like all of the verses that the Lord has been showing him in his life, and I almost felt like handing him over the notebook saying, like, okay, you can have this, but then the Lord was just sharing with me, like, not yet, like this is something that's not just for him, it's for everyone. And what I'm gonna like put this, this is gonna end up going in a book, you know what I mean? And I'm gonna be able to share my paintings in a book so people can like purchase the book so they can have them. And it's not even like there's the paintings, there's the verses, but there's also even a story behind that.

SPEAKER_00: 7:13

Yes. Well, do you do you recall like your first painting? What it was was it the rainbow around the sun, or was it the rainbow around like with the watercolors?

SPEAKER_01: 7:23

Yes, it was the rainbow around the sun. Yeah, okay.

SPEAKER_00: 7:25

How about the acrylic one that you did?

SPEAKER_01: 7:28

Um, I'm not sure the very first one. I have a feel like they're just on like a five by seven. I still have them. I didn't don't have the dates on them, but one was of um it was just a cross that I seen like a vision. The cross was actually standing up, like the cross was, but then there was like other crosses that you know, like kind of as when you move something in slow motion, and then you kind of still see that, you know, cross coming up. So I painted that, and then I showed it to a friend of mine, and she was like, Oh my goodness, she said when she was a little girl, oh, and I also had like there was like a fire around the cross, and she said when she was a little girl, she actually painted that same painting when she was little. Oh wow.

SPEAKER_00: 8:19

I was like, I was like, What? Yeah, so wow. So it's like it's obviously like very beyond you, right? Yes, wouldn't she say? Oh like did you did you ever think that you'd be able to do this and and have it turn out so beautiful? No, yeah. Yeah. Well, I remember um because I think in pictures a lot, and I've always said, oh my gosh, I wish I could like I wish I could paint what I've like have visions of, and maybe I will someday, who knows? I've actually somebody gave me a prophetic word about painting, and I was like, I don't even know about that. But anyways, that's probably for another day. But I was do you remember me saying, Oh, I wish I could paint what you know what I'm seeing, and um, I like to make graphics, but I had a client who had this amazing vision um during one of our coaching calls, and I connected her to you. We won't name her name or anything, but do you recall like kind of having that connection and being able to um create something for somebody that I was working with?

SPEAKER_01: 9:26

Mm-hmm. Exactly. Yeah. And the thing is, is there's been two people in the States actually that have contacted me, and of course, through you, one of them was through you, um, and had me paint their vision. And then, yeah, so I've sent, you know, I've you know, sold a couple of the um paintings that I've done, like other people's visions. And the really cool thing for one of the people was that they told me what they had seen. And so what I did is by what they told me, I painted what they had seen, like what I my perception of what they had seen. Okay. And when I painted that vision of what I seen, she was like, Yes, that's it. But it she explained a little bit more. So I said, Okay, so I'll paint exactly what she's saying. So I painted my perception of what she had said, and then I painted exactly of what she was saying, and the one that she chose was my perception. Oh wow, that's the one she bought. Wow, isn't that incredible? I know I was it was funny because I was kind of thinking, you know, I really like that one. Like that one is so beautiful. Like it even spoke to me, but that's the one she bought, and that's the original that she got.

SPEAKER_00: 10:41

That's so incredible. Well, is that I mean, is that something that you would be open to doing for somebody? Like as oh yes, somebody reach out to you and be like, because let's just kind of back it up a little bit. Back, you know, a couple of years ago, you were flowing in something different with like dream interpretations. So if somebody were to have maybe a dream, this could be like I'm almost hearing like an artistic interpretation that you could provide to somebody, right?

SPEAKER_01: 11:07

Exactly, exactly. I mean, I still I still dabble in that and helping people, but this this prophetic, like the visions and painting the visions and people's visions and people's dreams is right at the forefront.

SPEAKER_00: 11:22

Okay, awesome. And so you recently birthed something. Do you want to tell us a little bit about that? Yes.

SPEAKER_01: 11:30

So um I have a website that's up and running. Um I, you know, was very happy, um, very happy that the Lord provided by my paintings that I sold actually paid for the website. Isn't that incredible? So, and I also had a local lady, um, uh her name is Monica Stark. Uh, she lives on the island here um on Dickaby Neck, and she um built my website, and the work that she did was absolutely stunning. And the thing that I want it the most is that I really want it when people go to my website that they really can feel, they get the feeling, they can even feel the Holy Spirit. And I have had people that have gone to my website that maybe don't have um a really strong connection with God, and they have all they've told me that they can they can feel something, they might not know what it is, but they feel something.

SPEAKER_00: 12:35

That's incredible.

SPEAKER_01: 12:37

No, it just that's awesome. Like I have every time I hear that from someone, I had literal God bumps.

SPEAKER_00: 12:45

Yes, well, because it's I mean, it's something that is you know, it's a website, right? It you would think that a website would just be a website, but because you know the work that you're doing is like so inspired by Holy Spirit, of course, they're gonna get hit by Holy Spirit, right?

SPEAKER_01: 13:02

Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. I've had someone who because when I do do my paintings, also besides putting you know them on my website, um, I share them with people, like whoever the Holy Spirit wants me to share them with, like I'll share those paintings with people. And there was one a while back, I shared it with someone, and she was like, that was like the answer she was asking for. She was asking the Holy Spirit for an answer, and that was one of her confirmations. And she actually went on my site and she bought that painting. Oh wow, that's yeah, a print, a print of that painting.

SPEAKER_00: 13:40

Wow, which which one was it?

SPEAKER_01: 13:42

It was uh the firewalker one.

SPEAKER_00: 13:45

Oh, okay. How many how many paintings have you done now?

SPEAKER_01: 13:51

I I I've got over I've got several notebooks, and in each notebook, I think there's about 30 pages, and I yeah, so I have there's there's a lot, yeah.

SPEAKER_00: 14:03

So do you have like a I don't know, like I always say like for people who maybe want to get into something, but there's kind of some resistance to getting into it. Have you experienced any resistance in like painting at all, like getting into that flow?

SPEAKER_01: 14:19

Uh no, no, I haven't at all. I also do classes. Um, I've done some classes. Um I've also I've got that on my website also that I do, you know, some classes. It's um it's amazing, even you know, for someone who might think they're not able to paint, what could pour out of them? But I have for myself, I've not had like any blockages or anything like that. It just pours out.

SPEAKER_00: 14:48

Okay. Um, so you said you have classes. Um, I know you're in you're in Canada, so we're we're reaching the nations here. Are you ever gonna be doing any online classes? Yes. Yeah, I can do online classes, yeah. Okay, so people can reach out to you through your website if they wanted to contact you about that. You have this the name of or the website address right now, yeah.

SPEAKER_01: 15:12

It's it's uh cjross.com. So it's my my first initial, my middle initial, then my last name. So really easy, CJ and then R-O-SS.com. Okay.

SPEAKER_00: 15:27

And I'll be sure to add her website in the show notes as well. So um, what what else will you be doing with the art? Like, do you feel like there's I know I've you mentioned that you're gonna have a book coming out. Do you know when that's gonna be coming out, real quick?

SPEAKER_01: 15:41

Um, not sure. Hopefully, well, next year. It may be even the fall of next year because it takes a little bit to get things. I have all the material, it's just putting it together. So um uh next fall, I don't have a date yet. Uh, but that's that's kind of the goal for the for that book. And it will probably even be, I'm not quite sure it could possibly be a little bit of a devotion book, also. So um the Lord's given me a few ideas. He's got a few, I've got a few ideas, but they're kind of um still kind of in the secret place right now. Um so very exciting.

SPEAKER_00: 16:18

I love that. I I've shared with people before, like obviously, we don't share everything until it's time to be shared. So um that's beautiful. What do you feel? Um, you know, of these paintings that you've done, just even the the watercolors, especially. Which one is your favorite painting that you've done? Surrender. Surrender.

SPEAKER_01: 16:42

I have to say surrender has I've even got a hoodie now. I ordered myself a hoodie. So I have the the lady who's in that photo is on the I've got her like on the front of my hoodie, and then on the back, I've got surrender and then James 47. And that painting, I don't know what it is about that painting, but that painting speaks to me over and over and over again. And I painted that I think it was earlier this year in January, is when I painted that. And it's still speaking to me. And there's um a church that I've been attending, and one of the ladies because some of these people are still new to learning about the prophetic painting, and one lady told me um that I just met here not too long ago. She she was looking at that painting on my website, and she said that verse, um, James 4 7 has been like her main verse in her life. And then she said, the other verse, which I can't think of it off the top of my head, it's on Psalms, that's also written on that same painting is one that's been recently coming to her. Wow. Before she even seen my painting. Don't you love it? Yeah, and the other part that's really cool about all of this is that on Sundays or even on Saturday evening when I go to church, um, when I'm painting, the painting normally seems to have something to do, because I usually get the painting done before um the minister speaking. And most times it has something to do with like the sermon, but it's already been painted.

SPEAKER_00: 19:46

Wow. And are you painting like while the worship is is yes, yeah.

SPEAKER_01: 19:52

Yeah, there's a um I'm attending a church right now, and um there's lots of worship in before there's lots of like lots of worship. And so during that time of worship is when I paint. Okay, and then and then by the time the minister's speaking, the painting is done. Wow. So are you like up on stage or are you sitting like no, no, I'm just I'm just sitting, yeah. I'm just I'm just sitting and and painting. I've been invited to go up front and paint. I haven't done that, you know, yet during a service. Um, but I do feel like I will be painting during services, during conferences. I do feel that that is coming very quickly.

SPEAKER_00: 20:38

Yes. What is like how long does it usually take for you to to paint like like the surrender painting or any of your other paintings? Like I I feel like we just kind of want to bust down some walls for people, even today, who are like, Well, I don't have time for that, I don't know what to do, I don't know anything. Um, I mean, does it take a long time to do a watercolor painting?

SPEAKER_01: 21:00

No, I can paint a painting anywhere from 15 minutes to half an hour. Really? Yeah. Even when you first got started? Uh it was probably 45 minutes when I first. Start it, but it depends on how detailed it is. If it's not that detailed, it can be within 15 minutes. Wow.

SPEAKER_00: 21:23

And are you are you just freestyling? You're not like you're not sketching anything.

SPEAKER_01: 21:28

I'm not sketching nothing. Everything that I do is freestyle. Now I did just um go and purchase myself a watercolor journal, but that was just for and I did do a drawing in that. Um, but that's just for it's not this is something new. This is another added part to it. Um, when I as soon as I get ideas, I'm joting them down.

SPEAKER_02: 21:52

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01: 21:53

And then I may not paint that till a little bit later. Um, most times though, most times when I'm painting like on Saturdays or Sundays or through the week, it's just like in the moment. And sometimes the Lord just grabs my heart and He's just like, You need to paint this now. Like, stop what you're doing, paint now. And it's so funny because those paintings are quite something like.

SPEAKER_00: 22:16

Yeah. Mm-hmm. Well, I love I know I love some of the paintings you've done. Cause I don't think that you've done this on all of them, but some of them have kind of like that glimmery, shimmery. What do you what do you call that? Like, is it a surface?

SPEAKER_01: 22:28

It's a shimmer, it's a shimmer watercolor, and most times I'll put that on at the end, and it really, if you're just looking straight on at the painting, like through a picture, you don't really see it. But for someone who has the original, it like shimmers, it makes gives it a whole different look. Yes, it brings it to life, like it really makes it lively.

SPEAKER_00: 22:54

Yeah, well, I I love like what he's doing in and through you, and I know that there's gonna be like so much more that we can't share yet, right? Um, so I feel like part of you know, this journey, even having you on again today, you know, would you just even speak to somebody who, you know, feels like whether they, you know, had kind of a creative burst was when they were a child, and then something kind of like stopped it up, or you know, maybe they're feeling prompted to try, you know, getting back into art, but they're they are having resistance. Like, would you be able to kind of talk to them about, you know, what that might look like for them to encourage them to step into this again? And and like, how does it like help you in your life? Like, is there, you know, do you have you found you've had a lot of breakthrough just even in being able to step into this creative space? Because I don't think we do that enough in our lives anymore. Like our world is so fast and technological, all the things, right? So you're actually using your hand to do something that is outside of a computer, right? Would you talk to them a little bit about that?

SPEAKER_01: 24:03

Yeah, for sure. Um, what I would say is that there is so many times that the Lord is really speaking to us. And when we really hone in and listen to what he's saying, like, you know what I mean? Like someone who has even been painting when they were younger or they feel like they have a blockage right now, like you can like just pick up those paints or pick up those pastels or pick up that pencil and just start to just go with it, like just draw or paint or sketch, and because you never know when you first start, like when I even when I first started painting, it was like, what is this? Like, what is this gonna be? But as you continue to create, because we're all born creative, and as you continue to create on that page, what may even look like a mess or a disaster could turn into something beautiful. Like, for an example, I a couple weeks back, I started painting I thought what I was gonna be painting was nowhere, it's not even to where I thought it was gonna be. That was like the the um painting of firewalker, Holy Spirit firewalker. When I started painting that painting, I thought it was gonna be something totally different, and then the Lord just redirected my hands, and when I was I was like, what is this? This does not look like what I was you know painting, and he took it in a whole different direction. So we again we are all born creative, whether even if it's someone who you know doesn't think they could sing, you can sing, or someone who doesn't think they can dance, you can dance as long as we are doing it in the spirit, and another thing that's so powerful is this is all spiritual warfare. There you go. It's all spiritual warfare, whether we're singing, dancing, drawing, painting, you know, creating in all those different ways, it's all spiritual warfare, and you can do it.

SPEAKER_00: 26:19

Yes, that's so good. I I feel like somebody's getting set free with what you just shared for sure. I mean, just think of like Jehosaphat's army, too, right? They were sent in with a wartime strategy of singing, right? It it sounded silly to two others, I'm sure, but they won the battle through singing, worshiping.

SPEAKER_01: 26:43

And I have this little book here that I'm it's funny because when I came into this call, it was like the Lord said, Pick up this book, take it with you. It's just a book of like illustrated Bible verses, and I opened up this page and it says, Do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your minds, Romans 12, 2.

SPEAKER_00: 27:03

Yes, I love that verse. That's my birth verse, actually. My birthday is too.

SPEAKER_01: 27:08

Isn't that amazing? Yeah, I just opened up to this page.

SPEAKER_00: 27:12

Yeah, how does how does that speak to you, even just that verse?

SPEAKER_01: 27:16

Um it's with the way things are right now, we really need to renew our minds in the word and the living word. And that I feel just gives us gives us a piece that just passes all understanding.

SPEAKER_00: 27:37

Yes. What is what is your like go-to, like I call it kind of an anchoring verse. When what's one verse that you cling to in your life?

SPEAKER_01: 27:46

Um Jeremiah 29, 11. Yeah. That is like just about how the Lord is just um, I just gonna think now. I just got a blockage for a minute. Uh, I have it painted on my it's painted on a in my room in there in my office. Um, just about our plans. Like he the Lord, he has our plans like laid right out for us. You know what I mean? Like just to he makes the way. He's not out there, he's he's not out there to harm us. Like he's he has set those plans out and for us not to worry.

SPEAKER_00: 28:25

That's so true, right? Especially, you know, in this day and age, there's so much that's attempting to cause fear and trepidation. You know, there are a lot of things going on in this world, of course. Um, but how do you stay like in peace? Um, you know, besides getting in the word, and you know, are there other ways that you stay in peace during the day? Because I know you have a lot going on in your life as well, right?

SPEAKER_01: 28:50

Mm-hmm. Getting outside like is huge, like being out in nature is huge. And I find also that it seems to be a whole lot easier for the Lord, like he speaks to me, but he speaks to me even more outside. Yeah, yeah. Because you know, like he can, for example, that this was a few years ago. I was on the beach in Smith's Cove. It was really calm. There was not a breath of wind. Okay. The water was calm, and all of a sudden behind me, it was like a whoosh, whoosh. I was like, what is that? And it was the Lord said to me, My heart, he just like impressioned on my heart that this was me. It was him. He made that happen because there was not one breath of wind. Wow, wow, and I'm like, wow, that is so amazing, you know. Because if we are in our house, yeah, how could he have made you know what I mean without scaring us, right? Like you're not so outside in nature, it's so it's so you know, easy for him, and just like with the eagles, like he I see eagles all the time, and I never ever seen eagles before like 2000, when was it? 20 um 19 was the first time I seen my first eagle, and I have never stopped since.

SPEAKER_00: 30:20

Yeah, isn't it amazing? And I I've it's funny because people will say to me, like, how do you see eagles all the time? Well, first of all, you got to get outside, second of all, you have to look up, right? Because too many times people are like looking down on their phone, they're not seeing like his creation for what it is, they're not seeing all the beauty um that he wants to show us. I feel like every day we can see so much, right? If we just get out there and slow down. Exactly.

SPEAKER_01: 30:54

I I completely agree. Um, even like when I go and do something, it takes me forever to get home because I'm always stopping to the beaches. And one time my aunt has said to me, she goes, I don't know how you have time to do that.

SPEAKER_00: 31:07

I said, I make time. That's it, that's exactly what it is. Yep, you have to make time. So when people say I don't have time, what you gotta say, I got you you have to make it. Right?

SPEAKER_02: 31:22

Exactly.

SPEAKER_00: 31:23

Oh, well, Claudia, you are amazing. I have loved just you know being part of your journey. I've had the privilege of, you know, we I asked her about this before we we got started. Um, but she's been in a couple of my uh group coaching experiences, and we just wrapped up um a Living Fearless group coaching experience. Gosh, was that November? I think it was October, October. I can't remember. It was October. October, November in a whirlwind over here. Um, but it was a beautiful experience. Um, and I asked if she'd be open to sharing a little bit about her experience because I'm gonna be having another um group coaching experience starting on December 30th. Now the Lord had me switch the name up a little bit from Living Fearless to Living Fearless and Fierce. So um, would you be open to just sharing a little bit about your experience so that others might know um what they could expect if they were to jump in?

SPEAKER_01: 32:20

Um, I have to say it was um the Lord confirmed it for me for sure, um, over and over and over again that I was to be in that group setting. Um, it was amazing. Um, you know, just the things he continually confirmed. Um, Kristen, like you're an amazing um mentor and coach and friend. And I just feel like it was like he poured all over us, all of us that were in that group setting, the things that the Lord revealed, um, how he, you know, got us each of us to overcome different things in our lives, and just being in that group setting and also with being the one-on-one is part was part of that group coaching that I was in. And that was also amazing. Like you really do unlock each person. Do you mean like the Lord has really blessed you with that, um, to be able to unlock that. Um, you know, it's like it's almost like you hand us out a key. Do you know what I mean? And and we can, you know, unlock the door.

SPEAKER_00: 33:34

Yes, that's so good. Thank you for sharing. Um, yeah, like I said, it's been a joy to like, I like to say a joy to journey with you because you are a delight. And um, we we both similarly um just have this we say wow a lot. We both do. Like I'm we're both like kind of on Wonder Girls. So um it's been incredible to to journey with you. And I know that there's so much more to come in your life. What would you say, like just even being part of the group, what would what would you say like was the biggest breakthrough that you walked away with being part of that?

SPEAKER_01: 34:13

My biggest breakthrough. Oh my, there was there was a few. Um really taking that step out. Like there are some things that maybe I didn't feel as maybe before as comfortable to take the step out to do, and just knowing just the boldness, do you know what I mean, of the breakthrough and and getting over being afraid to do something, yeah, or being afraid to speak out about something I'm not. Yeah, I I am so fast that. Yeah, it's done and over with, it's buried. Like that to be I would highly, highly recommend that. Do you know what I mean? Like if you if someone's if you're sitting on the fence deciding on should I do this or shouldn't I do this, do it. Like, do it.

SPEAKER_02: 35:12

Yeah, so good.

SPEAKER_00: 35:13

Well, thank you for sharing your experience. Um, sometimes it's helpful to hear from others who've been part, you know, of groups I've done or just the one-on-one experience on its own. And this one will also include one-on-one um coaching to go deeper because I just love going deep with people. You know that about me, right? Um so anything else that you'd want to share today, um, as you know, like I do this for the one, and actually Claudette is probably like the super listener of Hope Unlocked podcast. I love it. Um, is there anybody like if you're getting a picture of somebody that's listening right now, is there anything else you'd want to share with that person? And then do you have any other words of encouragement or wisdom that you'd be glad to speak over them? And then would you pray us out today?

SPEAKER_01: 36:01

For sure. Um, one thing I just want to say about your podcast is that I have listened to many, many, many of your podcasts, and I have enjoyed each one of them. And out of each one, I have gotten something out of each one. Like, even if do you mean like even if it was something at the beginning, I thought, oh, do you know what I mean? Is that something I need to? Yes, it's something I need to listen to, because in that conversation, the Lord had something for me in each of those podcasts. Wow, that's incredible. So it it's amazing, like yeah, it's just amazing. So I'm just saying that for anyone who is even listening to this podcast, please go and listen to other podcasts because there is you just never know what's gonna touch your heart. Oh true, yeah, and what's gonna speak to you that could even open a door. There could even be a podcast that opens a door to something you didn't even think of doing.

SPEAKER_00: 37:07

That's so true. Thank you for sharing that. So good.

SPEAKER_01: 37:11

So that's huge. Um let me think something in closing. I just oh, I just love how the Lord just this is so funny. So I opened my book, my little book that I have, just one other thing. And this is the verse, it's Jeremiah 29, 13. You will seek me and find me when you search for me with all of your heart. Yes. Yeah, so I just like that. Is we just reach out and ask the Lord for what he wants us to do, he will tell us we turn on our spiritual ears and listen and he will speak to us. Um, one thing is that there are different people who have come to me and have said, Claudette, you have a direct line to God. And can you pray for this? Which I don't mind. I love doing that. However, I say to them, you also have a direct line to God. It's not just me, we all have that direct line to God.

SPEAKER_00: 38:26

Yes, it's so true. And he speaks to us in so many different ways, too.

SPEAKER_01: 38:30

He does, he speaks to us through in our dreams, he speaks to us through other, he uses other people as vessels, he speaks to us in nature, like he speaks to us in so many different ways. It's it's amazing.

SPEAKER_00: 38:44

Yeah, well, thank you for like imparting that on somebody today, just even bringing in the verse to then remind people to seek him. He's he's he's actually waiting for us to reach out to him. And I think sometimes we, you know, just again getting busy, we get tuned in too much to other things, and he's like, Turn the station over here. Right? Well, thank you for sharing that. Would you mind praying us out today?

SPEAKER_01: 39:12

Sure, for sure, dear Heavenly Father, Lord, Lord, we just come before you, Lord. Lord, I just thank you for this time, Lord, on this um amazing podcast, Heavenly Father. I I thank you for Kristen, Heavenly Father. Um, thank you, Lord, for just um blessing her, Lord, that you'll continue to bless her and her family, Heavenly Father. Lord, I thank you for the one that you bring to listen to this podcast, Lord, and that you are going to speak to through this podcast, Heavenly Father, Lord, and just Lord, that you're gonna pour out creativity, Lord, over all your people, Lord, no matter what it is, Heavenly Father, you're gonna pour that out, Lord. Lord, I thank you so, so much, Lord, um, for this time we've had today, Lord, and how this is gonna just have a ripple effect, Lord. I am praying for a ripple effect, Lord, that this will reach the nations, Heavenly Father. In Jesus' name I pray, amen, amen, amen.

SPEAKER_00: 40:19

Amen. Well, again, would you remind us how listeners can contact you? And then, as I mentioned, I'll get I'll get this added to the show notes as well. Yeah, for sure.

SPEAKER_01: 40:29

I have a website out there. It is cjross.com, which is cjros.com and very easy to remember. Sounds good. And are you on all the socials as well? I am, and those socials are also in that website.

SPEAKER_00: 40:49

Okay, perfect. So you can just get directed right through there. Awesome, amazing. Well, I'm gonna close with our anchoring verse for hope unlocked. It's may the God of hope fill you with all joy and peace in believing, so that by the power of the Holy Spirit you may abound in hope. And that's Romans 15 13. So thank you, Claudette, for being a brave voice who's setting others free. I will be back with another episode next week. Bye.