She Thought Missions Was the Destination—God Had More with Kasha Jankowski

From arriving in America with almost no English to serving seven years in Burkina Faso, Kasha Jankowski shares a raw and powerful testimony of faith, healing, missions, and hearing God’s voice on the Hope Unlocked. We unpack spiritual pressure, depression, grief, trauma, and the inner healing journey that reshaped her life and calling. They explore missions in West Africa, the ministry of hospitality, prophetic sensitivity, being a feeler and seer, and what it means to stay on God’s “surgical table” for deeper freedom and restoration. Kasha also shares the heart behind Ebed, prayer labs, and helping others recognize God’s voice with greater clarity and confidence.

Kasha's contact info:

Websites - www.kasha-ministries.com calendly.com/kashajankowski

Email - kashajankowski@gmail.com

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Transcript

Welcome And Meet Kasha

SPEAKER_01 0:16

Welcome to the Hope Unlock Podcast. I'm your host, Kristen Kurtz, and I'm also the founder of New Wings Coaching. I help and empower wild-hearted and adventurous women of faith feeling caged and stuck, unlock their true purpose and potential, break free from limitations, and thrive with confidence, courage, and hope. If you're curious to learn more about coaching with me, head to newwinkscoaching.net and be sure to explore the show notes for ways to connect with me further. Get ready to dive in as we uncover empowering keys and insights in this episode. So tune in and let's unlock hope together. Welcome to the Hope Unlocked podcast. I'm Kristen Kurtz, your host. I pray this episode is like a holy IV of hope for your soul. Please help me welcome Kasha Jankowski to the show. I am so excited to have her here today. Gosh, I think we've been connected for, I don't know, has it been maybe five years? I I just I'm just so thankful he connected us however many years ago. And um, I just love her heart and I cannot wait for her to share more about herself and what the Lord has had her up to these days. So, Kasha, would you just be open to sharing a little bit about yourself before we get into that?

SPEAKER_00 1:24

Yeah, definitely. Hello, everybody, and Kristen. It's such a pleasure and joy to jump on here. And yeah, it's been at least five years, I would say, that we've known each other. Is there anything else you want me to say about my life?

SPEAKER_01 1:40

Yeah, just start off. Just tell us a little bit about you. It's kind of an open-ended question, and I do that purposely.

SPEAKER_00 1:48

All righty.

From Poland To America Fast

SPEAKER_00 1:49

Well, uh, you probably can detect immediately that I speak with a slight accent. And yes, I am from another country. I was born and raised in Poland, and God brought me for salvation to America in 2000, which is now 26 years ago. Um, fairly immediately upon my arrival. It it was all led by many divine um confirmations and miracle stories that uh I won't get into everything, but uh, but like for instance, my English is a gift from the Lord that He gave me within the first three, four months of my stay in America. I just absorbed English super quickly, and I had the understanding, and you all had the understanding of my English speaking ability trying and the grace. I I met people gracious enough that would listen to my broken English and kept encouraging me. But nonetheless, all of my Polish friends were telling me that this is like amazing and that that's not normal and natural.

SPEAKER_01 2:52

That is wild. I I don't know that I knew that about your story. Like so, when you came here, you didn't know really any English at all?

SPEAKER_00 3:01

Yeah, I did not know any English. I came to I mean, I I know it's not like nothing zero zilch because our movies started coming from America to Poland and they were just simply dubbed over, okay. Um, but like delayed, or you had to read the screen. I was not a very fast reader in Polish, so I just basically watched movies in English and had no idea what's happening, but got the concept. I'm extremely pictorial, I always have been. So images meant more than reading of the story and the text. Yeah, so so I probably got more and different meaning of the movie than than what they were saying, yeah, which was amazing, right? Yes.

SPEAKER_01 3:49

Wow.

Trauma Survival And A New Start

SPEAKER_01 3:50

So, like what what brought you to America? Like, let's just start there.

SPEAKER_00 3:56

Yeah, well, I had a very um I my life was spiraling, and I have had a very hard childhood, trauma-filled, post-communist country, poor as can be. Um uh I became suicidal several, several times I attempted suicide, but knowing being brought up in a Catholic culture, I knew of God. I just did not know know God and have had a relationship with Him. I didn't think that is possible, that is not promoted. Poland is 97% Catholic.

SPEAKER_01 4:31

Oh, I didn't get that.

SPEAKER_00 4:33

Yeah, so like being Protestant is to this day, they're very um abused and marginalized people group. Really? Yep, to this day.

SPEAKER_01 4:44

Wow, wow. So growing up in that culture, like that would have just been completely like outside the norm.

SPEAKER_00 4:52

Oh, yes, you're Jehovah's Witness. You you're worse than Jehovah's Witness. No offense to Jehovah's Witness. I'm sorry. But but you know, like you're you're you're like a sect, you're like it's almost like when I was just in Poland just this past year in 2025 for a mission strip that I felt the Lord was calling me after 25 years to go back as

Faith Under Pressure In Poland

SPEAKER_00 5:15

a missionary. Uh the Lord opened my eyes to to see how prosecuted Poles really are still to this day, and how pressured and and stuff. And I was just, I just marveled what a how closed-minded, how blinded we are, how what a chasm there is between us and God. And truly, like when Jesus walked the earth and was so misunderstood and called it, they called it blasphemy, blasphemous that he called the father his his father. So then saying that they know Jesus personally and that they talk to the father and they can hear back. I mean, to this day, the pastors have their tires sliced, the wives are refused food at the market, and the children are bullied in school openly.

SPEAKER_01 6:08

Oh my gosh, I did not know.

SPEAKER_00 6:11

We're talking about wow. This is not post-communist years, this is now.

SPEAKER_01 6:18

So tell us about this journey back then. Tell us a little bit more about this mission that you're on. Like, what what were you sensing he was calling you to do as you stepped into and gave a reass?

SPEAKER_00 6:30

Well, I mean, it was extremely eye-opening, and I realized what a like I never understood that there's spirits in regions and areas until and and also like the Bible talks about that the the Lord determines the places of our birth and how important and crucial that is, yeah, um, how detrimental that is for us to like almost return to our places of birth. Sorry, sorry about that. Oh, that's okay. Yeah, this is real life, yes, and uh so so like that. I felt such anointing on going back and and and even like feeling that I am so appointed, like that he appointed my life to start in Poland to grow up, to grow up the way I did, to inherit all the breakthroughs, all the tenacity, all the perseverance, you know, the the good working traits and habits that Paul's carry, the the longevity, the loyalty, the all of it, and then to be transported to America, you know, to bring those goods here and continue to give them out as who I am, because that's that's what we offer the world. We are the gift, living, breathing gift of God to the world, right? Being tried to snuffed out so many times back in Poland, I do believe that that was God's big master plan of like, that's it. We have to call her out in order to save her life truly. So, my life, like I say, my life was saved, saved, saved. You know, like I was physically saved, and my soul was saved, and then and then my well, my spirit was saved, right? My life started for Jesus when I gave my life over to him, and then over 17 years later, like my soul started being revived as I started inner healing, and that's about the time we kind of you know met shortly after. So it's like I was three times saved. I feel like you know, I had a three tri layered awakening, and I do believe that is a journey that we all are on, but we don't really realize or recognize it that way. And for me, it's just like happened that I can see.

SPEAKER_01 9:04

Yes.

New York Culture Shock And Trust

SPEAKER_01 9:05

And so when you when you came to America, did you come here to Minnesota immediately?

SPEAKER_00 9:10

No, I came to New York City, I lived in New York for three and a half years.

SPEAKER_01 9:14

Oh, you didn't know.

SPEAKER_00 9:15

Where I gave my life to the Lord, attended Polish church where you know Polish English was was both. I went to um on on Times Square, I went to Cymbala Church. I went to the tabernacle.

SPEAKER_02 9:29

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 9:29

In New York City, I went to his church, I heard his choir, magnificent. I did ministry there, joined with my youth group, his outreaches. Super fun. Especially like if you read in books about it. He's like, I was there, I was there in 2000.

SPEAKER_01 9:47

Wow. And and did you come alone?

SPEAKER_00 9:51

Yep. My mom preceded me, my family fell apart, my parents got divorced, my mom preceded me to save my life, knowing that I was a very disturbed young adult. Uh 18, trying to take my life away. By 19, I was in America.

SPEAKER_01 10:06

Wow. Wow. Oh my gosh.

SPEAKER_00 10:08

So I've interjected divinely.

SPEAKER_01 10:12

How was how was that I I want to kind of get a picture of you know where you lived in Poland? Like, what was the landscape like there? And you you go to New York City. I I can't say I've ever been there before. I've seen videos, but it's it's pretty wild, you know, looking. It's it's busy, and like what was the environment like where you came from in Poland? Was it a huge difference?

SPEAKER_00 10:34

Well, I came from city to city.

SPEAKER_01 10:36

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 10:37

It was actually more shocked coming to Minnesota. You know, like we can talk about that later. You know, what do you do here with all this open land? And yeah, so blocks and buildings and cemented things, you know, kind of uh, you know, it it's people don't see New York as oppressive, but to me it was like it's just a different different block. You know, um I was just a kid off the block and rats, dirty, yucky, just language of people you don't understand of various colors from all over the world.

SPEAKER_01 11:16

What was like most surprising about your maybe like your first year here?

SPEAKER_00 11:24

Um people talk to each other, strangers on the streets with greet each other. We never did that. I think I heard in the first two months in America, I heard more compliments and pleasant greetings in two months in America than I did in my entire life, 19 years living in Poland.

SPEAKER_01 11:47

Really?

SPEAKER_00 11:48

People are very shut down, and it's like they literally don't see you, right? You know, you you when somebody says hello, smiles back at you, and you say hello, you feel seen, right? It gives you a little dopamine hit, and you're like, Wow, I'm seen. And and especially if they like follow up with like, oh, I like your eyes, or you have a pretty smile, right? I'm like, what is happening? Like I was on the cloud nine. I'm like, like I felt like a celebrity. Oh my gosh. And it's silly because we take this for granted. This is a normal, free people, casual behavior, while in the oppressed country, you know, it is so stark different. At first, I like I would not trust people, like I didn't think like be genuine or somebody sent them, yeah, to bribe me, you know, like there's some kind of a spy. You know, like it's wild, like it is wild. Mindsets are so deeply in woven within our fiber of our growing up that we don't even know it until you're seeing in a different environment.

SPEAKER_01 13:03

Yeah, you know, it's really interesting. You you talked about Minnesota. Well, I moved a lot as a kid and I came here when I was 14. And I'll never forget um being out rollerblading in a trail, like in the park near where I lived when I when I when we first moved here. And somebody like said, Hi, how are you? And that same kind of reaction came to me because all the places I lived prior, people didn't really ever do that to me. And I again, I was like, oh my gosh, I'm on a trail, I'm in the middle of nowhere, somebody gonna kidnap me, you know what I mean? But then I started to recognize that that was just kind of something people were were doing more. And I was like, oh wow. And would you say that that um, because I know you now, how did that shift like you blooming into something um through that experience, having those moments happen? Like, how did that because I like to think of it as like a um relay race, right? So a lot of times we have a choice if somebody encourages us or says something nice, we we can pass it on, right?

unknown 14:07

Right.

SPEAKER_01 14:07

Did you have that sense that like, wow, I want to do this too? Or was it kind of like I don't know what to do with this?

SPEAKER_00 14:15

Yeah, I think I think this is all, you know, I I look at everything and I didn't know that I was always a a person of faith, always. That I always looked at life at that it's a God's design and divine appointment, everything is right. But I always because I didn't I couldn't talk to people at first, or or or at least express myself fully, you know, like my language was limited at first, you know, I would absorb more than I can express, right? So I I would just always talk to God, like this is amazing, you know, like and I didn't know that this was helping me build trust, trust in him because I would talk to him, but also trust people because they would they would say something, they would initiate conversation. It was also another layer of like they would teach me English as a result of it, without, you know, calling it teaching English, you know, like all of it. It was just like, and now looking back 26 years, it's like it was God's kindness that was so divinely orchestrating. Now looking back, New York is actually a very aggressive city to live in. You know, you call for pizza and you apologize and getting off the phone, which is bothered them, and you dare to call them, and you're just like double checking. Did I just call pizza or did I call like an assassin that is bothered? Oh my god, but I want him to do something out of ordinary, you know, and it's just like, no, this was a pizza place. Why are they angry with me? Right, right.

SPEAKER_01 15:58

Have you have you been back since like after leaving?

SPEAKER_00 16:01

Have you been back to um just a couple times for like uh sentimental shopping, but I have not been there in uh in at least 15 years. I lived in Africa, so so after after New York, I had my two sons, I have four children, and I had and I and they came in batches, the Lord gave gave us two per batch. So it's like I had two sons, and then we went to Africa for seven years and we got back, and then I had a second batch of two children, uh additionally to the other two, right? And so so I had two families almost in different decades. So yeah, that second decade after we returned to from Africa, I did not visit New York City. I didn't have to. My mom used to live because we both immigrated and she kept living in New York City. So I I had her to go visit, but once she moved to Minnesota as well, then I had no more, no more pool there in that direction. And like I said, New York is not the nicest place to really go, and my friends necessarily people do want to harm you on every corner almost, you know.

SPEAKER_01 17:12

Yeah, I can imagine it's definitely probably gotten a lot worse. Well, do you want to share a little bit about your your then off to Africa?

Saying Yes To Africa

SPEAKER_01 17:20

So tell us about your Africa adventure.

SPEAKER_00 17:23

Yeah, I mean, it was again, it was again God's divine appointment and a choice, and a lot of times we tell God, you know, I will do what you want me to do, but in our heads, but subconsciously, even we will have like a filter, only if, only there, only while, you know. And and I felt convicted. My husband, it was 2008, and the academy was crashing in America, and my husband was being told that he's going to be laid off. And what does that mean? And we were praying into next job and wanting to do what God wants us to do as a young family. Again, I had a I had a three-year-old and a two-year-old on my hands, and life ahead of us, happily married, right? We're like Lord and loving Jesus. It's like we want to do what you want us to do. And that's when the Lord dropped in. Go to my husband is a pilot, so we we took a job that he laid into our lap, and and we left for Africa for seven years. We did not know it's gonna be seven years. We said yes in a moment, and then it kept extending onto seven years until he said, and now you go back, and that's how we returned.

SPEAKER_01 18:36

Well, tell us like what was the most um wild part about going to Africa? Was there just awakenings that you guys had? Because you you left here, America, and you went to Africa. Um again, I'm I for some reason with you, I'm just like these landscapes, these these pit stops almost that he's taken you to. Like, what was the landscape like there? Was it like shocking? Like what happened?

SPEAKER_00 19:01

Yes, yes. I and I was in a city of Wagadougou in Burkina Faso, and I thought Wagadougou was a bush because you know, always coming from city, then having the contrast, you know, of brick, cement, then coming to Minnesota, having lakes, greenery, yeah. Again, lakes, you know, more lakes, more water, right? Suddenly I am put in a desert. Like nothing is green, there is no water, there is no building, you know, and this is the capital. This is like the capital, this is the thriving city. I'm like, well, where is the city? Because in my mind, I have a different view of cities, right? Yes, yeah, you know, and I'm like, okay, well, it's not Minnesota. So I'm like, I'm in a bush. So I think the most starking, like clashing thing that happened that went zap in my brain hard somewhere, where for uh almost like six, eight months while being there before we left for for our furlough the first year. Um somebody invited us.

SPEAKER_01 20:10

You came back to Minnesota.

SPEAKER_00 20:12

So for seven years we would come back to Minnesota for furloughs, and I would sit in front of the lake on end, like hours on end, looking at water, soaking because it's a desert. So we are sub-Sahara located there, you know, almost on the equator. Sunsets are within minutes, you blink and it's dark. Oh wow, very different. But it was there that I that when I went to the bush, actually, to the bush, we visited a village and we met with the chief, and it was all traditional stuff. And like we were in the bush. That's when I came back to the city. I'm doing quote quotation marks here with my fingers, but uh but then that's when I'm like, oh, I am in a city, I am in a brick building, hallelujah, you know, because it was everything was like the the huts, the thatchets, the you know, everywhere is just dirt, and everything is made out of tree, fallen over tree trunk, you know, with some straw over it, you know, like all the structures are nothing cemented.

SPEAKER_01 21:19

Wow. So what was it like, you know, bringing your kids and your husband there and like raise raising your family there?

SPEAKER_00 21:26

Yeah, so it was just, you know, it was once again steps of obedience, one day at a time, just like we do it here. You do it anywhere, but but it's like the kids loved it, the kids don't know any better, right? As long as mom and dad is there, that's the whole world, the environment changes, yeah. You know, so they they loved it, flip-flops and bathing suits all the time, over a hundred degrees constantly. Not a cloud in the sky, you know, because there is no rain. We are in sub-Sahara, you know. It then it rains like I think it's like nine months of dry. And you know, it's just no rain for nine months. It's like six months of dry and then three months are building up to rains, then it rains, and then it doesn't rain.

SPEAKER_01 22:10

Oh my goodness.

SPEAKER_00 22:11

And that's the year. Oh my god.

SPEAKER_01 22:13

Wow. Well, what was it like to um, you know, you you definitely I I know your faith now and I know your heart at this point, but were you like ministering to people

Faith Life In A Muslim Majority

SPEAKER_01 22:24

there? Were you part of a church? What did it look like, you know, difference compared to America with um, you know, following Jesus? Was it more challenging? What did that look like? You said in Poland 97 Catholic. Yeah. Um, what was that landscape like there?

SPEAKER_00 22:41

Yeah, so it was the country is about 90% Muslim.

SPEAKER_02 22:45

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_00 22:46

10% uh that 10% breaks down to like 7% um Catholic and 3% Protestant, but they all live peaceably with one another. That's what sets Burkina Faso apart from other countries in Africa. The Muslims and Christians live in peace with one another.

SPEAKER_01 23:07

How how do you feel that like what is what do you think that is attributed to? Like what how does that you know, you looking at it, how does that pan out?

SPEAKER_00 23:17

I believe it's out of desperacy because Burkina is one of the poorest countries in the world.

SPEAKER_02 23:25

Really?

SPEAKER_00 23:26

Those videos of children with big bellies are done there.

SPEAKER_01 23:31

Oh my gosh.

SPEAKER_00 23:32

Yeah, that's that's that was a normal sight out of my gate. So I think it's just because of their poverty, their eyes are turned to God and God alone. You can, you know, they they they serve the same God, they know who the source is, their expression might be different, their practices are different, their approaches to God are different, but we serve one God. And they know it. And the rain only comes from God, food comes from God, clothing comes from God, help comes from God alone, and they really live by that. And I think I grew a lot in my faith while being there. I ministered mostly to the expect community, but I did become a bridge and a connector as that's deeply woven in who I am, and you know, and as I move about and I can adapt extremely easily to the environment and quickly pick up, you know, who's who in the zoo and and who and who to connect with, you know. Yeah, then I quickly became the the the networker almost of it.

Hosting The Table That Connects

SPEAKER_00 24:44

It was astounding to me that there would be ministries, there would be missions that they did not know of each other until I got there. I'm like, you guys live 20 minutes from each other, you don't know of each other here, you're working here, you're bringing God's goodness this way, you're restoring wells, and you're doing something, interpretation of something and education, and you don't know each other. I'm like, well, come to my house and I'll host a dinner and I'll bring the ambassador to, you know, like all it and they're like, Oh my goodness, you know, so I would I would host a lot in my house because that was first of all the safest place and the building I can guarantee with pavement that I love so much. Yeah, yeah, uh, and not a dirt floor, you know. So I I was very grateful that God blessed us with a nice, you know, with a nice property that I can host. I and I host it a lot. I hosted three, four times a day. Three, four times a day, yes, various different people, different family. Sometimes obviously evening hostings were like for greater gatherings that we would have 22-30 people.

SPEAKER_01 25:52

Wow. So um, like what what was like what was happening at these gatherings?

SPEAKER_00 26:00

Uh people would just get to know each other, like and the faith would be the connector, you know, like the one common thing. It's like you're Baptist, I'm from somewhere else, you know, you know, and they're from all over the world too. You we have to like broaden our understanding that they were expats from all over the world. We're talking New Zealand, Australia, and and Europe, all over Europe, right? We have Germans, we have those, we you know, like, and then you have Americans, you know, and we had a joke, the English are coming, you know. You know, I mean, sorry, we would have like we were friends, and we were all for common good in that country, they were all doing good, you know. Oh, I love it. So I'm like, why not connect? Why not, you know, and then and then my husband was just often gone because he's a pilot and he would be traveling. So it's funny he often would return home, and I'm having this big party, and uh, but it was the easiest for me. That's what I could do. I I could not go on mission trips, they would give me anxiety. The bush was really the bush. So when I came back, like I told you, I came back from that bush, I was so appreciative of the house and brick and mortar that I was given, that I was entrusted, that I was like kissing the ground of my house. And I'm like, I don't want to go to the bush ever again. There were snakes, I couldn't go to the bathroom, I was afraid to eat anything, you know. I was just like, it was hard for me. That was hard. Um, but so I'm like, but I can do house. The Lord trusted me with a house, and it's a big house, it's a way bigger house than all the other missionaries have. So I'm like, all right. I'm like, then I will open my house and allow the Lord to use the house.

SPEAKER_01 27:42

Oh, so beautiful. You know, I really I really want to just step back for a second. You know, you were you were there and you you you could have done missions, right? You could have done this like maybe others were doing and and you knew like this is not for me. Like this is not my this is not my path. Like, and that's okay. Like, I feel like somebody just needs to hear, like, if you're in an environment and you know, you can literally set the table in the way that God's calling you to. And it's I like to just say it, it it needs to be different. Like, whatever it is that he's calling you to, like, I mean, just think of all the fruit that came from that. Um, you know, I'm imagining I'm very visual like you, so I'm I'm just imagining all these people coming in. Do you remember like any testimonies of um, you know, because I'm a connector like you, I I thought everybody was a connector. Like I literally thought like everybody in this world's a connector, but it's actually not true. So, no, you know, kind of looking back at this, and maybe you heard or didn't, but do you remember any testimonials of people who because they came to the table, came through the door of the house? Like, was there like a shift in their life, or maybe meeting somebody that they were like, oh my gosh, you live down the road? And you know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_00 28:58

Yes, we exactly we they had that because they're like, I had no idea, or I didn't understand that that's what your missions were doing. And they're like, they would collaborate and the work would advance better and faster because what they were blocking was something they did not understand. And I think that's you know, it was more of a picture, you know. I was hosting a prophetic picture of what they were actually living, you know, like it's the mindset we block the good, even what God has for us, because we come with an assumption that we do not understand the other person. But if we would just allow a space to meet them, you know, or host the idea, you know, to engage, it's just like, oh, oh, oh, we do have things in common, you know, we can collaborate, we can work together, you know. Our workers don't have to, you know, compete with one another for the same well, so to speak, you know, which was literally the case, you know, in some of in one of those organizations, you know, or or they like they would never have an opportunity to meet an American ambassador. And because we were friends on friendly terms, it's just like they like, oh my goodness, I would never have an opportunity to ever meet American ambassador and really experience, you know, America and ask questions.

SPEAKER_01 30:32

Yes, so good. And it was you you gave your yes, yeah. And it didn't have to be, I mean, I mean, I know that you like are amazing at setting the table, but you know, for those of you who are listening, like it doesn't have to be like fancy or it doesn't have to look a certain way, just follow what he shows you, right? Wouldn't you say?

SPEAKER_00 30:51

Yeah, I would say like I think everyone who would show up too, I mean, everyone has a choice, they can say no and not show up.

SPEAKER_01 31:00

Right.

SPEAKER_00 31:01

All everyone had to do is just show up with the best of who they are and like what they what they can bring, who they bring with them within themselves, you know, like everyone brought themselves to the table, essentially, and became the gift to one another. And once we started, you know, dealing and sharing that around, it's like, oh my, this is this is fantastic, you know. Like, when are you gonna do another get together? I'm like, well, okay, we'll do it again, you know.

SPEAKER_01 31:32

So well, how does that um even carry into Kasha now? Like, let's let's fast forward to the Kasha we know now. Um, you know, when we first met, you you had mentioned that, you know, you'd kind of gone through these three three phases of of being saved in essence, right? So the inner healing aspect, um, you walked through, and you know, I feel like we're all walking through it continually. So I just want to capture that. But like let's let's kind of go back to this time when maybe when me we met, like what is what does the last five years look like for you? Um, would you be open to sharing with us a little bit about that?

SPEAKER_00 32:11

Yeah.

Returning Home And Deep Isolation

SPEAKER_00 32:12

Well, I I under after returning from Africa, I really underwent a deep uh inner healing from those other parts of my life and mindsets and and things that triggered, you know, like after having such a high social connecting life to return to Minnesota when everybody's Minnesota nice and and never has a time for you, and and is not interested in connecting, deeply connecting, you know, having having have having tasted and knowing what a good relationship's what it's a true discipleship when you do life with others, yeah, right, to to for common good, and and you look into a source who is God Himself, right, for for the betterment of all men, suddenly you return to the status quo life, and there was a massive clashing. I mean, it was depressing. Um, at the same time, Africa also went under into a war state-like um state that they are still there. They are still in this um uh yeah, not a very good condition. And uh so so in my personal life, it it resulted in this like I need to go deeper, like with the Lord. I like I I had a faith, I followed him, I loved him, I served him, but there was deeper still. And I think it comes like you know, with this, what how I mentioned before, we always have a choice. God gave it given us a choice before he gave us salvation because of our choice. Yeah, so you know, God's given us a choice before He's given us salvation, and He gave us salvation because we made a certain choice. Yes, remember Yeah, and I and I, you know, and having all the clashing emotions and and being Polish and being back, quote unquote, home, having the language, having a car, having a home, but feeling so desperately isolated, even though attending church and serving on the team, and you know, like I was doing all the right things and nothing was like I tasted something better. I tasting, you know, and it's just like and people were not interested in that. And I was just grieving, and there were circumstantial things in my life that additionally, then suddenly the Lord is like, Well, while while we're at this deep level here, Kasha, you know, let's deal with the trauma that you actually went through in your childhood. I'm like, what? So yeah, for the last actually now it's been 10 years, so I met you kind of halfway, Mark. I I underwent a massive healing, and that there is a choice, there is a participation that the Lord asks us. I mean, he's willing to do the surgery, but will you stay on a surgical table? Because a lot of times he likes starts the surgery and we're like, nope, not doing that, and you run off, right? And he keeps inviting and coaxing us. You know, there is a there is a pain, it's not the same. We think it's the same, but it's not. There is a initial horror at pain that you feel when you undergo surgery or or a healing that you that you start because because it's been growing so much, right? It's like a growing infection, right? So when once you start putting that knife to that thing, oh it's gonna, you're gonna feel it. But then once you cut it open, then it's like there is a release. And if you remain and you allow the Holy Spirit and the help of others, you know, coaches, uh counselors, um, deliverance. I've gone through many deliverance. First, it was done onto me, then I was going through training because I was like realizing, oh, I can pick up all these skills, these are skills, there are much needed skills in the body of Christ. Because I started seeing being so wounded, I started seeing others also wounded, but covering it, you know. Kind of the the the the story with the leopard that had a curled hand, and the the Lord that Jesus told him to extend your hand, and then it was healed and not healed and healed again, right? It was just like I I feel like that's could be that that's a lot of us doing the process with the Lord, like we need to trust, so we need to extend that hand. Then then the whole conversation happened in a temple, then it went all all bad again. I can't imagine being the guy in the process, you know, like oh my hand, I I want it healed. It's just like, oh, okay, so you want it, so now you're participating. Okay, so you will be healed, you know.

SPEAKER_01 37:13

Yes. Do you do you remember like what was there a moment like that 10 years ago that was somebody inviting you into this healing? Did somebody help, you know, bring to light that you you were needing healing? Was it you and Holy Spirit that just kind of discovered this?

Choosing Healing When Darkness Returns

SPEAKER_00 37:30

It was a very divine moment, but I do remember it was a distinct moment when I made a choice because I was wallowing in depression. There was, like I said, circumstantial things. Africa was undergone, literally. So my friends, like villages that I've been to, you know, people, you know, like people were constantly new reports of death were being brought to me. So I'm like grieving this, grieving a loss of a child. I'm grieving, like I'm grieving on all levels, right? And I'm just spiraling down and down and down. And I remember feeling like Job, and everything was being stripped away from me. But I remember declaring with my mouth, barely able to speak, wishing to die once again. I was back suicidal. And I was like, But God, if everything is taken away from me, I still would choose you. And I literally felt like the hand of God went and reached me out of that bottom, and he's like, with that I can work. And the next day I like literally stumble into the church that I'm a part of still today, and I love very much. It's been such a life-giving body of Christ. Um, from there, it was a step after step of healing that I was entering into.

SPEAKER_02 38:47

Wow. Wow. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 38:49

But I literally felt carried by angels into that building. Like I don't remember necessarily walking in. It was that bad. Did you not have to say it again?

SPEAKER_01 39:02

You went in there on your own.

SPEAKER_00 39:04

I yep, yes. I I I made a choice to go, and I just don't remember the moment of entering. And when I was praying, for God to help me remember, He brought an image. I'm extremely pictorial. And I'm a seer, I'm a feeler. Um, so I'm just like, God gave me this image of four angels carrying me in on the on the stretchers.

SPEAKER_01 39:26

Wow, my gosh, Kasha. That is a word though, like even before we were talking today, like carried. Yeah. That word carried. Um, you know, for those of us, I feel like I need to go here a little bit because for those of us who are feelers and seers, um, you know, I I I carry that with you as well. And uh would you would you maybe share a little bit about that? Because I I do feel like we carry things different than maybe those who um, you know, I I feel like everybody has a little bit of of those attributes, but some of us have like some um it's more weighty, right? It's weightier. Um talking about carried. So like our backpack can feel very heavy at times. I didn't really know much about feelers and seers probably until uh 2018-2019. I'm like, well, this has been what it's been my whole life.

SPEAKER_00 40:25

Yes.

SPEAKER_01 40:26

So would you go there a little bit with us?

SPEAKER_00 40:28

Yeah, I think a lot of us who carry that way that we feel, sense, hear, or or see, right? Because those are in the spirit. We don't think that this is in the spirit a lot of times. Because I can trace it back now all the way into my childhood. Yeah, I can see that all my wanting to die was actually an assault of the enemy, not just on me, but on the gift to shut it off, to not have me access the portals and the gift and be the puzzle piece that like completes the picture for someone else, you know, like the aha moment, and then they walk the bridge and another soul is saved, you know, like like that's what our gifts meant to do. And not everyone is trusted, it is not because we're any better or anything. I don't quite understand it. It's the father who gives

Feelers And Seers Under Attack

SPEAKER_00 41:28

gifts through his Holy Spirit and then trusts those who are meant to carry it. You know, you just simply receive it, just like you have a gift for something else, and you just simply receive it, right? But a lot of times I don't think we understood. And I always had these imageries uh that that accompanied dreams and visions and revelation that I have the language for now. But back when I was a child, I I did not understand. And I was called a liar, you know, I would see a person and then I would see them in the real life. So that means I've I had a gift of you know, of seeing way back before I had a language for it, but then I was punished, you know, I was disciplined, as we call it, which basically I was beaten, right? I was traumatized. So so then it's like you're like, I don't want to see, right? I don't want to know, I don't want to feel, and you keep shutting it off more and more. And when you can't, right, then you're trying numbing it from the outside sources, and we fall into all sorts of addictions, right? And then become suicidal because it's like, why if I can't bring the life that God assigned for me to bring, which is in my DNA, which propels me to keep go keep going on, then then the flip side would be death. It's like it's it's appropriate. So everyone who like, I don't know where I'm headed there, but prop probably the Lord is like, you know, I'm thinking, okay, we're headed there. So it's just like anyone who struggles with suicide, it's because they have a such an assignment of life on them. I believe their life is crucial for life, yes, exactly, truly. Right. So you yeah, there's just I I believe we're participating, and the more I delve deep into the word of God, it's truly a mystery. And we've been entrusted with a mystery, and we to behold and to become and become part of, right? We have to continuously listen and continue to listen. And what I see again and again, now being healed and more aligned and more attuned, that that the body of Christ is lacking that. They're lacking the sight, they're lacking the the feeling, the compassion. It it that's what propelled Jesus to do anything. He felt the Father's heart. For the person. So therefore he did. And he only said what he heard the father say and did what he saw the father doing. He was already, you know, he was a feeler seer. Absolutely. Greatest prophet ever walking, right? And he said, You will do things I'm doing and greater things, not because I'm going to be greater than him, but because we live longer. We get to affect more people on the larger scale. I mean, I'm just a we little me and I've lived in four countries. In the in such a sense that I meshed with the culture. That I that means I had an exchange. There is a spiritual exchange that I gave of me to the land, to the people, to the you know, to the people around me. And then I took something from them too, because it was an exchange, right? I'm not fully Polish, you know, like I am and I'm not, you know, like I pick and choose what is best of that culture, and I bring that to the next place. It's like a oil refined, you know, it's the purest of the pure that I get to bring to the table. I choose to omit all the other generational mindsets and and behaviors.

SPEAKER_01 45:19

Yes, Kasha, this is gold. Um, I would love for you to just share a little bit. Like, where are you now? Like, what have you seen on the other side of this deep healing? Uh who have you become in becoming who he's called you to be? I just feel like there's these gifts in us, he gave to us that they go dormant for a long time, depending on their environment we're in. So now you're in a different environment. You're here. Um, what are you up to? What are you up to? Yeah. What is he calling you into?

SPEAKER_00 45:48

Yes. Well, lately the Lord has been, I've always loved people. I I didn't know, but that's that's what it was. That was what behind it, what was propelling me continuously to go forward.

Hearing God In Daily Life

SPEAKER_00 46:03

And I continue to love people and I and I often come in sync with God's heart for them. So right now, what this looks like, I've the Lord had me get involved in Minnesota Christian Chamber and to love people in the marketplace because they're almost like a group in itself, you know, in a society that just does Monday through Friday this, and then on Sunday we do that, and Saturday we spend with our families. You know, like we we're extremely compartmentalized. And if anything the Lord has taught me, it is all woven together, it's all seamlessly flows. That's why there's a lot of mentioning in the Bible of water and liquid and flowing, and it's it's not rigid boxes and and you know compartments as we like to have it, and you know, there is order, but we prefer patterns and regulations, right? God has orders, He's gonna, you know, He certainly keeps things flowing because and that's why we have to come in alignment with the flow of what the Lord has. So, so for me, I I just the Lord has been putting on my heart just teaching people to hear God's voice. A lot of that uh in alignment comes from not first not knowing him, and that was the biggest message of Jesus when he came and walked the earth. I've I have come so that you may know the father. That was his biggest heart cry. If you have seen me, you have seen the father. So he wants us to have an experience, and I think this is where I've been. It's like you need to hear his voice, know his character, right? Be able to communicate and experience him because that's what truly is transformative, and you can't do that apart from word of God and people of God, it's a balance, you need both. Yes, if you just do people of God, well, people will fail you, and we are where we are because of people, right? So you need to have it with the word of God, and if you just do word of God, and I love word of God, but the word of God needs to be married always to the spirit of God, who's always moving, who is the flow of things, right? But if we just do the law, then we become legalistic and religious and rigid, and you know, and we'll have again, like Pharisees, a bunch of laws that we need to fulfill. And so I think it's this continual balance of hearing the voice of God and continuing hearing while at the same time ministering and talking to others, giving of yourself, and that's so good, and allowing the Holy Spirit to lead the whole thing.

Ebed And Identity As God’s Child

SPEAKER_00 49:03

So, right now I I have a company called Ebed, which is a Hebrew word for bondservant, which stands for equipping believers towards eternal destiny, and and however that looks like I can be a speaker, I can be an seer, I can come and pray for your business, I can come meet 101. I I can do anything through Christ who gives me strength. And Ebed is a bond servant, and I basically do that. Whatever the Lord asks me to do, that's exactly what I do. It does not define me, that is not where my identity is found. I am a child of God, and that's first and foremost, and I know he's well pleased. Yes, say that again. Somebody needs to hear that it's okay to say that. Yes, it's okay to be first and foremost a child of God. Yes, we are children of God, and out of that relationship and who we are in him, before we've done anything good or bad, the Lord declared over Jesus, I am well pleased. Yes, that was before Jesus went into ministry, and just before he finished his ministry, the Lord declared the same thing again. He's like, I am well pleased. This is my son. Yes, listen to him, right? Yes, and I I feel like this is the same message goes for us. We we are legitimate children of God, that's who we are, John says, right, in his gospel. If we believe in his son, Jesus, there is no other name given to men, and salvation comes only through him. So there, and we've been given and sealed with his Holy Spirit. I'm just I'm excited and I'm grieved at the same time, and that's what I carry. If the word is carry, if I can circle back to the carrying, I carry that because it's like it's God's greatest desire to be known and to, you know, to love on us, but we won't receive him. And that's the grief part, right? We we have our rigid ideas and our mindsets, and we don't want to get healed, and we're scared, right? And and we just yeah, and it's just like we need more people who are like connectors, just like you are, Kristen. You know, it's just like a people who unapologetically want to help another, another being for simply being. It's just like I want to promote you for you, for you are the gift to the world, and I want the world to know about you. How can I help you? Absolutely. That's beautiful, and that's what I do through my ministry. And it's just like, how can I pray for you? How what can I what can I impart from my life that that God has freely given to me? I will freely give it to you.

SPEAKER_01 52:01

Yes, so beautiful, Kasha, you're amazing. Um, I want to ask you one more question before we wrap up. We'll probably we'll probably have to have you back on again because I is there anything like stretching that you see coming up this year? Um, what's he what's he stretching you into beyond what you're doing? Is there anything stretching?

SPEAKER_00 52:21

Oh yes, always something really stretching. Yes, the Lord always will ask you for more than you know, for more than what you can provide on your own so that you can rely

Book YouTube And Prayer Lab

SPEAKER_00 52:33

on him. So for me, this looks like um publishing my book that I have written already, and it is all about encounters with Jesus that have transformed my life. Like I was freed of anxiety through an experience with the Lord. They're all biblical sounded, but they are my experiences. And in the book, I lead you through each encounter and and flip it back on you and say, Well, now you go try it. Like bring your challenge, whatever that is. It doesn't have to be like in my case, that was anxiety. One of the chapters talks on that, you know, and then there is the encounter that I live through, an experience that was with emotion and and scriptural and conversational, and hearing and seeing and tasting and all of it, right? That just literally dismantled anxiety once and for all. Every time anxiety starts knocking on my door, all I have to remember is like that experience, and no one can ever push you back past the experience that you put like a stake in the ground with the Lord. So that's what my book is gonna is about, and it's gonna be about for all to see. Um, I also feel like the Lord is asking me more to to vlog and get on YouTube and make it known and be heard more. So that's that's a huge stretch for me there. And I will be teaching more classes that are coming up on prayer, like prayer lab and a few other ideas he's giving to me to to bless the body, to impart what I have learned that is absolutely true about him.

SPEAKER_01 54:16

Well, I am cheering you on.

SPEAKER_00 54:18

Thank you. I appreciate you so much.

SPEAKER_02 54:22

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 54:22

Well, as we as we close today, and actually I'm gonna back it up for one second because somebody's listening in, they're like, How do I get a hold of her? Um, what would be the best way to contact you?

SPEAKER_00 54:33

You can see my website, it's Kasha Ministries.com. Okay. Or administries.com. It will bring you both to the same website. Okay. And uh from there, there is YouTube channel, Facebook, and and Instagram. That you hopefully will see more of me in the coming uh weeks.

SPEAKER_01 54:54

You will see more of me.

SPEAKER_00 54:56

You will see more of me. Thank you. There's the coach, there's Kristen the coach coming out, catching me on my words.

SPEAKER_01 55:06

Yes. Well, this is beautiful. Um, if you didn't catch the websites as she was speaking, um, I always throw everything in the show notes. So be sure to go into the show notes and check out her websites and her social media and her YouTube, and you can cheer her on as well. So um, as we close today, I would love for you to just think of um the one that's listening in today. I I truly do this for the one as listeners know. If this one is listening in, um is there something that you just want to share over this one and encourage them in? And then would you pray us out today?

SPEAKER_00 55:39

Yes, I would love to. Thank

Blessing Prayer And Closing Verse

SPEAKER_00 55:41

you. Um I would just look you in the eyes, take you by the shoulders ever so gently, just like the father has done it to me so many times, and say, I see you and I know you and I love you, and I want you to hear that I love you to go ever so deep into your heart and allow it to water that parched places of your soul, because that's how Father deeply feels about each and every one of us, but of you right now, specifically, you and you alone matter the most. So, father, I just thank you so much for that one that's listening right now, that's that's tuning in and coming in alignment with with you. I pray that they see and lock eyes with you, Lord God, because when we look into your eyes, everything changes. Suddenly we see ourselves so differently. When Jesus asked Peter, who do you say that I am? In response, he told him, and you are, and Lord, that exchange can happen every time we look into your eyes, and we say, Lord, you are my Lord, and I love you, and he will tell you in return who you are to him. And I guarantee it's gonna be I love you, you are my child, and I am well pleased, no matter where that finds you today. So thank you, Lord, for that. And I bless the listener. I bless them on their journey of the giftedness, the talents, the treasures that you've entrusted them with, that they're running with, Lord God, that they're doing the best they can, and that is enough. So I thank you, Lord, for them and bless them in Jesus' name. Amen.

SPEAKER_01 57:44

Amen.

SPEAKER_00 57:45

Thank you, Kasha.

SPEAKER_01 57:46

You're amazing. I'm gonna close with our anchoring verse over Hope Unlocked. It's may the God of hope fill you with all joy and peace in believing, so that by the power of the Holy Spirit you may abound in hope. And that's Romans 15, 13. So thank you, Kasha, for being a brave voice who's setting so many free. I will be back with another episode next week. Thanks, listeners. Have a good day.