His Heart Stopped. His Faith Didn’t. The Story That Changed Everything with Rob Rene

What happens when life forces you to stop and ask bigger questions? For Rob Rene, it happened more than once. A truck ended his dream of becoming a professional runner. Years later, the pandemic disrupted a successful career and sparked a deeper search for truth, health, and purpose. In this conversation, Rob shares how studying Scripture transformed his faith, how serious health challenges—including a heart procedure and stage 3 melanoma diagnosis—changed his perspective, and what he's learned about listening for God's direction in everyday life. This episode explores faith, discernment, resilience, wellness, and the courage to follow where God leads, even when the path looks nothing like you expected.

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Transcript

Welcome And A New Kind Of Futurist

SPEAKER_00 0:16

Welcome to the Hope Unlocked podcast. I'm Kristen Kurtz, your host. I pray this episode is like a holy IV of hope for your soul. Please help me welcome Rob Renee to the show. So excited to have him here today. We just met. I love you know meeting new people, having new connections, and I just know without even knowing that this is going to impact the one here today. So, Rob, before we get into your story and what you're up to, would you share a little bit about yourself?

SPEAKER_02 0:42

Yeah, sure. So I call myself a faith-based AI wellness futurist. And I know that's a lot of lot of words, but this has been the Lord has put me through this amazing journey the last uh six years. And he's taught me so much and really to changed uh as a human being dramatically in that that six-year period. And and I attribute it all all to his glory. So it's it's been an amazing journey. So it's gonna be fun to talk through it. And and like you said, let's I'm praying that we can help one person. That would be the that would be my prayer today.

SPEAKER_00 1:17

Yes, absolutely. Well, uh tell me tell me then your your title again.

SPEAKER_02 1:23

It's uh a faith-based AI wellness futurist. So I love it.

SPEAKER_00 1:28

I've never I've never met one before. Yeah, so you are I'm a one of one. Yes. Tell us, you know, tell us a little bit. We'll we'll get into that deep, more deep down the road. But I wanted you to just share a little bit. If somebody is listening, they're like, what does that mean?

SPEAKER_02 1:44

Right, right. And what what that means is the Lord has taught me so much about wellness and health the last six years that I've been on just an incredible journey. And we'll we'll talk through that journey. So wellness is very, very key to who I am and what I want to do. I want to help people get off the couch and be well and be healthy to so they can help make an imp impact in the kingdom. But I also love technology and grew up in technology, and I spent 25 years in a corporate career selling enterprise technology. And so AI is super exciting, but also AI can be very dangerous, especially in a faith-based world. It can be very woke and very, very dangerous. So I believe that one of the reasons he has me here on this planet is to to help people navigate that that journey with wellness and and with technology. So that's uh what I I'm trying to do is uh help people navigate that new exciting world with technology, but also make sure you're grounded in your in your faith and that you you know you really should be listening to to God more than you should be listening to to myself or or to AI, right? Or to anybody. And so that's that's what I tried to do with a faith-based AI wellness futurist, is I want to I want to help people navigate that.

SPEAKER_00 3:09

That's amazing. Well, take us back. So you said you were in tech for like 25 years, correct? Yeah. What what got you into tech? Like take us back, you know, maybe.

SPEAKER_02 3:19

Yeah, so my journey is pretty nuts. It's like I I can look back now and see that the Lord is so good, right? He has Romans 8.28 tells us, right? He does everything for our good. And oh my gosh, I've been through such a crazy journey, even this last year. I'll have to say this last year was the toughest year of my life, by far none. And uh, we'll talk through that. But let's go back to early

The Runner Identity That Shattered

SPEAKER_02 3:42

days, right? In the early days, I grew up as a runner. I was a young, young man, and that was what I thought my my goal in life when I was young was to be a professional runner. I was really good at running, and I read a book called Eat to Win. And that book was really important to my running career because I was a distance runner and learning how to fuel your body with the God's nutrition, right? What he what he put on this earth was was very, very important to my youth. And then uh in the college, I got a full red running scholarship to a division one uh school, and everything was going just swimmingly, and I got hit by a four by four truck out on a training run.

SPEAKER_03 4:24

Oh my god!

SPEAKER_02 4:25

And uh so it threw me 36 feet, and I landed on my face and almost died that particular day. And so the Lord saved me that day. Uh that one, it was my throat got clogged. My friend, if he hadn't known that I had a bloody nose earlier in the run, he he could tell I wasn't breathing. He literally unclogged my throat. And so if he wouldn't have unclogged my throat, I wouldn't be here today. And I've had literally five near-death experiences so far. And I'm praying, praying I've only had only end up with five, and you know, but for some reason the Lord has kept me here, and my gosh, I really feel like I need to to make a difference because He He has me here for a purpose. And this this last one is like the one that really shook me and has just changed my entire entire focus in my life. But uh to to make to answer your question was you know, that what got me into the corporate life is after that accident, I was in college and I could no longer run for a living with after that. And I ended up finishing my degree and I got a job at a software company. And when I was in that job, I ended up moving up the ranks and in the software world and and worked for uh large software corporations for 25 years. So that was a big big part of my my growing. And then you know, another really big part of my journey is what I call the second truck. When the second truck hit me, uh which is the pandemic, and that's that's what really started this last you know six years of my life being so dramatic and so different and literally godled.

SPEAKER_00 6:14

So well, I want to hear just a little bit, you know, I've I've talked to people previously who've had such a massive redirection in their life. Like, what was it that like for you as a young man to have this, you know, you think, you know, I'm thinking like this, the verse Proverbs 3, 5 through 6, right? We can make our plans, but the Lord determines our steps, right? Right. What what was that like for you to have such a sudden shift? Like what was that like for you to walk through that?

SPEAKER_02 6:47

Literally, yeah, I'm not it was not easy. You know, it went I went through a really difficult period of time initially because it was like that. I'd been training for 10 years of my life to to do that. And for all of a sudden for it to be gone was was really heartbreaking. And uh so but I I've had an amazing brother as a mentor, I have a amazing brother, he's four years older than I, and he was always my my mentor. He lit helped me, you know, he'd go through life stages and life events before I did, and he would always go back to me and say, Hey, you know, make sure you understand this and navigate this because this is what I had to do, and I made the mistake of doing this, and you know, and so don't do that. So one of the one of the things that he mentioned to me is let's make sure you have something to fall back on, just in case you know, running doesn't pan out. And uh so I did well in school, and so I had I ended up finishing my degree, and but that that period of time of me finishing my degree was was difficult in respect that you know I literally had lost everything that I'd been fighting for, and mentally it was really tough because I was like, who am I? Right? What that was me. I was I was a runner, I was really I made the U.S. junior team, I was the second best miler in the country. I was just like right at the verge of being being everything that I wanted to be. And then all of a sudden, boom, it's it's all gone. And so I think that was the Lord, Lord redirecting my path. He's like, okay, I've taught you all of that. You know, well done. You passed that test. Now you're right, you're on to the next test. And that was, you know, then unfortunately, I I really did what the world tells you to do is I I did recover from that accident. I finished my degree, and I went and started working full-time, and then I had the goals of doing everything the world wants you to do. The world wants you to, you know, you're told to go get a job at a large corporation, and you uh you get married and you have a wife, and you you have three kids, and you buy a house with a white picket fence, and you get a dog, and you know, all those, all those things are are things that I did and I strove for, and it was a very selfish period. It was like me, me, me. What how can I have a better job? How can I make more money? How can I have a better schooling for my children? How can I provide a better house and you know, family for my my wife, you know, that it was but it was still it was all me, right? It wasn't how am I gonna help other people? It was like how am I gonna keep my little fiefdom going? And it took the pandemic to to bring me to my knees again.

Pandemic Wake-Up And Health Research

SPEAKER_02 9:35

And that that's what really transitioned me as what the who human I am now was that that second truck, because the second truck had a similar impact on my life like the first one. The first one, right? Uh everything was perfect, and then boom, it wasn't. And the the uh pen the pandemic, my corporate life was really good from a monetary perspective. I was making a ton of money and it things were going really well. I had all the accolades from a business in the business and a corporate perspective, but there was no, you know, my faith was I was one of the what you I I call myself a at that period was a a you know Sunday to Sunday Christian. I would go to church on Sunday and I would enjoy this sermon and I would enjoy the worship. And then as soon as the door hit me in the butt, I didn't think I didn't think about church until I sat in the pew the next Sunday, right? It was like I wasn't acting like a true Christian. And it took the the pandemic when the pandemic hit and and I started trying to figure out how to navigate health, you know, because it was like when that h happened, I lost my corporate job.

SPEAKER_01 10:51

Oh, you did?

SPEAKER_02 10:52

Yeah, because they downsized my organization because I was I was a traveling salesperson, so I covered the entire West Coast for my my software company I was working for. And I couldn't travel right with the pandemic. So they're like, well, we're just gonna, you know, downsize the the sales team until we figure out what's going on. So that was the first time in my life I'd not had a job and I hadn't I had time to kind of look at what's happening in the world, and that was incredible to me in that period of time because I started investigating things and researching things that I had never never looked at. If I if you I I was so busy doing my job and you know doing selfish things that I I wasn't looking at what what was going on in the world. I was really, really good at my job and I was really, really good at entertaining clients and you know doing doing my corporate world. But when that ended, it was like and I started doing the the research. One of the things that woke me up, and it it's funny that that it it you the first thing you and I talked about was was before the show was sun. Sun is so important to people, and that's one of the things that woke me up to to the corruption in our healthcare system as is today. Was I was doing research on how to keep my family safe, and I was leaning back on the nutrition part, you know, of what I'd grown up as with as an athlete. Like, okay, let's make sure my family has the right nutrition and we eat to win. Yeah, we eat the right things and we we we you know utilize all the nutrients to stay safe. And one of the things I was researching was the different vitamins, and I saw this one doctor recommending vitamin D. I'm like, well, but then I also noticed that he was getting sued by the government for multiple billions of dollars with a big holy. Yeah, I'm like, this is really bad, right? So this doctor must be bad, or why maybe vitamin D is really bad. So I started researching everything. So I researched vitamin D, and vitamin D is you know, the amazing, right? There's nothing wrong with vitamin D. So I said, man, maybe this doctor is really bad. So I did research on him. It's like, what's what's what are the skeletons in his closet, right? There's gotta be a reason. And my gosh, I couldn't find anything wrong with him. He's a great natural natural practitioner who was helping people, and then so I was like, What's the motivation? Why would they be suing him? And then I started doing research on the motivation for for them to to silence this doctor, and that unfortunately is where I really dug into a lot of research on what how our healthcare system was taken over in the early 1900s by the Rockefellers. And when I started digging into those details, I started going down lots of different rabbit holes, and yeah, and uh it's shocking, isn't it? It was yeah, once you see it, you can't unsee it.

SPEAKER_00 13:54

You can't unsee it, right? It it's incredible.

SPEAKER_02 13:56

It's like, oh my gosh, and it's like really made me. I I felt like a death in the family. You know, when you have a death and you go through those stages of of you know recovery, I've really felt that because I was like, how in the world did I live 50 years of my life and have no idea that this was going on? And and so it really made me mad. Because like our our communication system is all, you know, in my mind it was corrupt because we're getting fed an agenda, we're not getting fed true information. I was like, how is that possible in the great United States of America? Right, right. I thought that only happened in Russia and in North Korea, you know. That that was my simple, silly mind at at the time, but that's the way I was I grew grew up was that to make a really long story short. I started doing a lot of research on health and the healthcare system, and then I really got disenchanted with the world. And and and but then the interesting thing is as I was like, okay, since I was getting this research skill that I love so much now, I implore everybody to do this. It's like, don't believe me, don't believe Rob Renee, don't believe the me the media, don't believe the TV that you watch, don't believe anybody or anything. You have to go research things for yourself. And when you start researching things for yourself, you'll start finding seeds of truth or places that you can find, right? The first place you need to go is to the good book, the you know, the Bible. And so interestingly enough, is during that period is when I literally started looking at the Bible again. I was like, okay, I've you know, I've been a Christian for for decades, but am I really a Christian? You know, have I really read the book? Yeah, I'd never read the the entire Bible, and so I just said, Well, let me let me do some research on the Bible.

Testing The Bible With TAP

SPEAKER_02 15:50

So I I did what a lot of people do. I I ended up uh looking at a methodology called the tap method. I don't know if you've ever heard of that, but uh how do you spell that? TAP, the TAP method. Okay, yeah, and it's just it's fun because uh it you go through the textual criticism of the Bible, right? You're like, is this is the actual text accurate? And and there you look at all the research related to how authentic the physical text of the Bible is, and it's it's amazing, you know. You go through that and you're like, holy smokes, this is the most authentic you know document ever ever created, and there's so much evidence, right, that comes out even after the fact, right? Dead sea scrolls and all those other other things that that come into that validate the original text, and then you move on to um archaeology, so then you look at the all the archaeological evidence of the Bible, and that's pretty undeniable as well. You're like, Oh, wow, okay, that's but those two in combination are pretty powerful, yeah. And then you end up with the the prophetic, you look at all the the prophecies that are that are mentioned in the the Bible, and then you go back and look at how those pro prophecies are fulfilled, and it's it's it's absolutely incredible. When you so you you combine all three of those, yeah, it's like there's no way to deny that the the Bible is is authentic and real. And so I'm just like, okay, if this thing is that authentic and that real, I better read it. Probably a good idea, yeah. Yeah, so that maybe duh. Maybe I should actually understand what this thing says.

SPEAKER_00 17:34

So I didn't know. But did you do the tap? Like, can I ask you a quick question? Yeah, no, please do. If you so for the listeners again, could you just say what each letter represents again?

SPEAKER_02 17:43

Just yeah, textual criticism, okay. Yeah, and then archaeological archaeological evidence.

SPEAKER_00 17:51

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 17:52

And then uh P is for prophecy.

SPEAKER_00 17:54

Okay, and I'm just curious, how did you find out about this? Yeah, my brother again. You have a really great brother. I did have a great brother. I didn't reiterate, I didn't even say that earlier. I was like, you have a really great brother who who walked alongside you to really help you and be kind of a trailblazer for you. So, anyways, so your brother told you about this.

SPEAKER_02 18:15

Yeah, he's he's uh now a minister, which is which is interesting. So, but he was explaining to me. I'm like, hey, how do I, you know, how do I best research this this thing? And he's like, Well, I I would do I would do this method if if I were you. So I'm like, okay, what's that? You know, I didn't know what that was, and so I researched what the what it was, and then I went went through that that process, and I really did a good job of not letting any outside influence uh on me, right? So I didn't let my wife influence me, I didn't let my brother influence me, I didn't let anything influence me. I just wanted to take it in and and let the Lord lead me. And uh that's that literally led me to my personal relationship with God. I went from living a religion my entire life to a relationship. And that that was really, really powerful when I realized that oh my gosh, I can have a personal relationship with with my Lord and Savior. That that is that is incredible. And and that ever since then, uh that period of time when I really developed a personal relationship with him, I've really worked hard to listen, say, okay, Lord, I'm I am yours, you know, you you're the potter on the clay. I'm listening. And so I've worked worked hard trying to to let him lead me in everything that I do. And it's been he's he's put me on quite a journey this last six years. It's been you know ups and downs like I've never had before. But and when I when I look back on it, I literally know that it's been that's his design. I that's what he wanted. These are the things that he wanted to train me on, and and uh this is who the what he wants me to do. So I wake up in the morning, it's like I do my gratitude and prayer, and I was like, Lord, help me make the right decisions today. And then I want to use my time, talent, and treasure to to help your kingdom. So, what what do you want me to do today?

SPEAKER_00 20:10

And uh I love that.

SPEAKER_02 20:12

It's really, really empowerful. Well, I would love to hear, you know, you said sorry for the background noise if you can hear that.

SPEAKER_00 20:19

Oh no, I can't hear anything. You're good.

SPEAKER_02 20:21

Okay, good.

SPEAKER_00 20:21

And if we could, it's okay, because this is real life.

SPEAKER_02 20:24

There you go. That's right. My somebody came to my front door and thought my dog's barking, so sorry about that.

SPEAKER_00 20:29

No worries. So I just wanted to go back a second. I know you said that you you really want to listen to what the Lord has for you, you know, each day. How do you hear him like most often? Like, is there you know, some people hear him through different ways, through the Bible, through you know, you know, other people like there's many ways we can hear him, but I would love to hear kind of like your journey the last six years, yeah, and how he's really spoken to you and that you know it's him.

SPEAKER_02 20:56

Yes, I've never had a audible, you know, word from the Lord. Yeah, so I I do it through reading, right? His reading his word, right? It's literally literally the living, living word. And as you're reading it, you he you're you'll be reading a paragraph, and it's like you go back and read it. It's like, did I just read that? It's like you know, it's just amazing how your mind is he is communicating with with him, and and and or you could your mind could be drifting off and thinking about worldly things too, so you have to be a little careful of that. But um, it I think it is really important that that's that's a really

Learning To Recognize God’s Prompting

SPEAKER_02 21:33

good time to do it. But I find it a lot of times in just normal everyday activities as well, that he the Holy Spirit, if he's inside you, he's going to lead you and he's going to prod you, and he's gonna say, Hey, you should go, you should go pray for that man. And I was so mad at myself just literally a couple days ago, I I was leaving the coffee shop and I I was in a hurry because I had to get somewhere. And unfortunately, I'll let life. Lead me instead of the Lord lead me because I had felt this prodding to say you should need to go back and pray for that that young man. And uh I didn't do it. And uh I literally was so mad at myself later on, I was like, Rob, uh he gave he gave you clear direction to go talk to that young man, and you ignored him. And I just I felt so guilty, but then maybe this is how he works, right? But the next day I saw that same young man at the same coffee. I had a feeling, and and I went and immediately had a great conversation with him and talked to him about the the Lord and and uh prayed with him and for him, and it was uh it was maybe much more impactful by doing that than if I would have just gone and done a quick a quick prayer for him that day. So it is pretty crazy how how it works. So anyway, I I've awesome. That's an answer to your question.

SPEAKER_00 22:59

So did you tell him that you you were were given this prompting the day before? I did, yeah. I love that. Like that that honesty that he's probably like thank you for. I can't help it. Right, right. I I would have done the same thing. There's actually a book, you know, even before we got started talking, you had said, you know, you really do things for the one, which is what I do too. And there's actually a book called I I think it's called For the One, I believe. And the guy, like it's literally a book of all these like encounters of you know, reaching out to the one. And there was a time where he had an opportunity to, you know, talk to somebody and he didn't. And I think it was on an airplane, maybe. And he ended up going to a baseball game and literally at a baseball game. I mean, think of like tens of thousands of people, like right away runs into this lady, and like not only did she get saved, but her like relative got saved because of it. I just think it's so cool, and it's all about timing too. And and thank you for going back and and the fact that he brought you together. That's amazing. He likes to go to God thing. I like to say you can't make this stuff up.

SPEAKER_02 24:12

Yeah, you can't. And yeah, I've I've had so much of that God thing for with me this last this last year that it's it's it's really it's not I it's not scary whatsoever. I don't want to say it. I just that's just a you know, it's it sounds scary, but it's not. It's just like the Lord is literally directing my life. And it's like I I one of the most dramatic things that's ever happened to me was I literally, this last near-death experience is I my la heart literally failed on the operating table. And if I wouldn't have been at that operating table where I was that particular day, I would not be here with you today. If I was anywhere in the world without being at that operating table, my heart would have failed. And to make a really, really long story short, is I had a I've had a heart condition called bradycardia for decades.

Bradycardia Melanoma And Total Surrender

SPEAKER_02 25:09

My heart beats slow. And and so my backup is called a junctional rhythm, is what beats my heart, or had been beating my heart for decades.

SPEAKER_00 25:19

Is that like a pacemaker kind of?

SPEAKER_02 25:21

Yeah, and so I did I didn't have one. That's just the way my heart was working without that, without any help. And so over a year period, I was was told by multiple people, multiple cardiologists to get a pacemaker. And I I kept saying no, but I ended up contracting cancer and melanoma in the back of my ankle, and that spread into my lymph nodes, and I have stage three melanoma, and uh it was like really scary period. And as part of that journey, the the oncologist said, you know, we need we may need to do surgery on your tumors, and but we can't do surgery on your tumors because your heart is too you know slow. And so I had the I literally ended up going and getting that operation because of my cancer, and my heart on the way to the operation, I almost fainted, which is a sign of your heart failing. And a week, two weeks before that, I sit was sitting on the couch and my I almost fainted, just sitting on the couch doing nothing. So my my unbeknownst to me, my heart was failing, and uh it it literally failed on the operating table while I was getting my pacemaker. And the only reason I was at that that that on an operating table was because I had gotten cancer. So I I I am 100% sure that I got cancer because he knew I wouldn't get my heart fixed unless I he I went through that journey. And it's like he so there's no way I was gonna be at that operating table if I didn't get cancer, and so he he I was too stubborn. I was gonna do it myself, and he's like, Okay, if this is what we have to do, this is what we have to do. And so, anyway, that that was the one is like I look back at that, it's like, oh my gosh, it's like he only and I and I was saved. It so the the reason why I'm saved is there's gotta be a reason, right? This is like the fifth time that he said, No, you're not coming to see me yet. You know, it's it's not your time. You have you you have to go make a difference, and so man, I am I am on fire for God, I'm on fire for for making a difference, and he's given me time, talent, and treasure that that I need to utilize, and I'm not utilizing that for me, I'm utilizing it to help other people. And so that my my changed my entire world is like I don't care about my house, I don't care about my car, I don't care about any possession that I've ever owned. I used to be very you know technology forward, I wanted every single gadget, I wanted uh the best of biggest and best of everything, and now I don't want anything, I don't care about anything, I just want to help help other other people. And I'm I'm building a business, but and I want to.

SPEAKER_00 28:24

I'm just gonna say, well, how are you? What are you doing? What are you up to?

SPEAKER_02 28:28

He's giving me this time, talent, treasure, right? He's giving me this, and I want to use what I what he's giving me for good. So I'm I've literally created a company that's that's a wellness company that I've and he's taught me about light therapy, he's taught me about frequency therapy, he's taught me about fuel, the uh you know, nutrition and and molecular hydrogen. And then he taught me about faith. So I literally have a what I call the light code, and the light code is light, frequency, fuel, and faith. And the combination of those is is the light code, but the combination of those is everything that he's taught me. It's like everything the Lord has taught me about health, and I need

The Light Code Light Fuel Faith

SPEAKER_02 29:10

to go educate people about the light code because it's transformational in my life, and if it's transformational in my life, it's going to be transformational in other people's lives too. So that's that's what I'm out trying to trying to trying to do is is is help people one at a time, right? So there's one one person who is struggling today with their health. I've got some amazing tools that I I can help you with that are 100% free. That then I also have a whole system that uh that can help you if you if you you know want uh want better help than the free tools. So I I can meet people where they are and I've got solutions to to help people. So oh I love it.

SPEAKER_00 29:50

What is the crazy journey? Yeah, what is the name of your business?

SPEAKER_02 29:54

It's called Exodus Strong. So uh great name. One of my favorite uh you know passages is uh Exodus 15 26 is you know, for I am the Lord your healer. And so we created a supplement that's part of my business, that's part of the the fuel pillar, and that Exodus supplement is really amazing. It's got seven biblical herbs and superfoods as part of it. It's got organic barley grass and wheatgrass, which people are missing nutrients with all the corruption of our food supply. Yeah, I'm sorry. People are eating uh ultra-processed foods all the time, and so barley grass and wheatgrass really are helpful for the nutrient part of it that what they're missing. It's got saffron in it. Saffron is amazing at mood and and so stress and anxiety has uh been known to support that. And then it's got aloe, aloe's got some amazing gut health properties, and then it's got cumin, frankincense, and myrrh. And cumin, frankincense, and myrrh, the combination, support inflammation relief. And so I have a podcast called Biohackingville, and in that podcast, I interview a lot of holistic practitioners, and those practitioners tell me that the source of all disease is inflammation. So I'm like, well, geez, if we can reduce inflammation, then hopefully we can reduce some of those problems and issues. And so that's why we created then the Lord led me to a gentleman who helped me add a molecular hydrogen blend to Exodus. And that molecular hydrogen blend really makes it special, that this supplement, because it's not just like a normal supplement you can go get off the shelf. It's got those seven biblical ingredients, which are awesome, but then it's got this molecular hydrogen blend that when you do research on molecular hydrogen and the benefits of molecular hydrogen is really fascinating. It acts as a molecular hydrogen, it acts as a master antioxidant. So it goes into the bloodstream and gets rid of the bad cells in the body and then helps the the good cell, the you know, it helps the mitochondria process work really more effectively. So it's been fun. I've I have this whole system that I've developed is it all comes down to the mitochondria. Your your cells within the body are are constantly you know dying off, and constantly new ones are being created, but they there's a lot of stresses on our on our mitochondria because of the air, because of the food, because we're living inside all day long, we're not getting the the light. And so this light code system that I've developed is pretty amazing. Red light therapy and near infrared light really help the skin, and it goes into the mitochondria, and even the near infrared goes deep inside the skin and helps your mitochondria from the outside, and then the molecular hydrogen helps you in on the inside, and then our frequency products help uh level out your your body, right? From an energetic perspective. So, and then we have every single product we have comes with a prayer guide. So I really want you to literally declare out loud with your mouth a prayer because it's there's there's power in our tongue, as the Lord tells us. And so when we declare that out loud with our with our mouth, and then you're reading it with your eyes and you're hearing yourself say it, that you're using those multiple senses that God gave you for your health. So that's that's my passion, right? I want to really really help people with the light code system. Um, and then you know, we have uh these red light therapy mats that are just full body mats that are just phenomenal. We have face masks that women absolutely love, helps the collagen in the in the skin. I mean, then we have have a little targeted therapy wand, and we have some frequency solutions that are just fascinating on how frequencies impact the body, stuff I didn't believe. Like I thought those were nuts when people first started telling me about it. I was like, come on, yeah, that cannot work. And then I started researching the body, right? The Lord's like, okay, I want you to learn about frequencies. And uh so I went through a year and a half of study on on frequencies and how your body is made up of energy, and our cells are so fast. He God designed this temple so cool, it's so complex that we still can't figure it out. I mean, even the best scientists in the world they can't even explain a lot of the quantum world and the quantum realm that's it that's in our world, that they have no answer for how it works, but they do know things happen to the body that they can't explain. So it's just just just fascinating. But anyway, when I we're talking about frequencies for a second, when when I was researching the human body, you know, we're made up of energy, and even our cells, when they interact, they interact via the vibrations, and those vibrations give off a frequency, and so it's like literally down to our cellular level, our bodies both react to frequencies as well as give off frequencies, and so that's fascinating. I found that you can take healthy frequencies and you can apply them to the energy system in your body, and it makes and has a has an impact, a physical impact on the body. So we created these little skin patches, and now I have a mist that's pretty neat that you can just spray on your body that uh has these frequencies on it. But we also, these little crystal instructors are really cool because they can hold information kind of like a computer car hard drive can hold information, and we include a frequency on it, but we also include 40 Bible verses on on every patch that we have and every mist. It's like literally the word of God is applied to your body via frequency, so that's a really unique thing that that we do as part of the light code system. So I'm I'm having a blast with all of all of those things because it's like fascinating things that have helped me in my journey, right?

SPEAKER_00 36:07

And so that's so cool. So when when did you launch?

SPEAKER_02 36:12

We've been I've had a uh good wellness company for a couple of years. We used to be called QE Strong, and then Exodus Strong is just about a year old now, and that's when we started our supplement brand. And then the Lord taught me a lot about light therapy through my my journey, my my melanoma journey. And just for people's curiosity's sake, I'm winning the the big I was gonna ask.

SPEAKER_00 36:38

I I wanted to know. Tell us about that. I'm so excited.

SPEAKER_02 36:42

Everything when I first got diagnosed, when it's when when you get uh the the C-word and it spreads into your lymph nodes, that's really dangerous. It can typically spread very, very quickly, and most people only have a few months to live after it spreads into your lymph that lymphatic system. And I was lucky enough to to stop the spread. And then over this last year, I've transitioned my body to be a fighter instead of a producer of bad cells in the body. And so I've been successfully able to reduce the tumors in my body by over 50 percent

Healing Progress And A Wild Provision Story

SPEAKER_02 37:20

now, and it's continuing to decrease. So I think I've won I've figured out the way to to to win it. And uh now I'm just going finishing the process, but it's it's a it's a really long-term process to get rid of it and to change change the body. And I've learned all the I've been meeting with practitioners literally all over the globe on how to win and how to do the things that I need to do to save my life, but and also I everything that I'm learning, I know that God is like, okay, I want you to go learn about this now. And then guess what, guess what? I need to do with that, right? I'm not gonna keep it for myself. I want to go share with other people my journey so that they understand how I did it. And as part of part of my journey, God is so good. He he he uh he keeps being there for me. I talked about the the heart journey, and and I have another really crazy God story that if you if you have a few minutes, I can tell you that that God story is pretty pretty nuts.

SPEAKER_00 38:23

Please do. The crazier the better.

SPEAKER_02 38:25

This one is just it's it's kind of unbelievable. Little a little over a year ago, I went to a conference here in Dallas, Texas. It was a wellness conference, and I at that time my my leg was swollen up dramatically because of my lymphatic system being plugged up, and I had to walk around on a scooter, and I had to have my leg wrapped every single day. My poor wife had to wrap my leg every single day to keep my so I could you know move. And the it was really cumbersome, really difficult. But anyway, during that conference, I met with a lot of people, and they, of course, a lot of people give you their recommendations on what you should do with your health. That three different doctors recommended this one center down in in Cancun that you that I should go check out immediately. So I did my I did my research, right? This the skill set that I've worked on so hard, and I just researched the the heck out of this doctor that he they're recommending in this place down in Cancun. And man, I was like, that looks so amazing. And the therapy they do there is really revolutionary and something you can't get in the States, and so I contacted them and on Monday or Tuesday they connected with me and told me the the price. It was like $150,000. It was like oh man, it's like and it's it's you know, it's cash. It's like you don't, you know, it's not like you have insurance um to do it. So I was like, Lord, I don't have $150,000 to do it. Right. And I literally on and during the research, it was like uh watching these testimonials of people who've been cured and and saved, it's the sim same problem I had. I was like, this I want to go do this, but then the $150,000, I was like literally on my knees praying, crying out to the Lord. Yeah, what do I do? Do I do I suck up all the you know pride I have and sell everything I've got and just go do this? Is that what you want me to do? Do I you know do I do a GoFundMe and beg people to to you know give me money so I can go go do this? What do you want me to do, Lord? And and I was you know obviously very, very down. I was very depressed. I was just literally crying. And well, on Wednesday, I think it might have been a week later, but the but very, very soon after that, I was on a phone call with my Facebook ads team that that does my Facebook ads for my company.

SPEAKER_01 41:01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 41:02

The guy on the call said, Hey Rob, do you have a solid tumor? Like, what do you why are you asking me about my tumor on a Facebook call? Um I said yes. And he's like, Well, let's talk right after this. So we I talked to him right after the call, and he's like, Hey, I just got off the phone with this center down in Tijuana, and we do all their Facebook ads. And he he said they're doing some advanced treatments and they're looking for candidates for this advanced treatment. And it's like, really? And I was like, What and uh literally I contacted that company and make a long story short, they accepted me as a as a a patient, and they literally are paying for the entire treatment. Um it's like is that not a god?

SPEAKER_00 41:49

I mean, that's like it's like I mean, again, like I I always use the phrase you can't make this stuff up. There's no there's no you can't you could not like create this.

SPEAKER_02 41:59

There's no no way, no way, and I had never heard of this therapy before. I'd never I mean, and then the therapy I'm getting is the exact same therapy that the center in in Cancun was that they were telling me about.

SPEAKER_00 42:12

So it's just like it is being you. Let's just you guys, if you're listening, that a week he's crying out because there was a huge expense that he was potentially gonna have to pour into. A week later, God provides the solution, and they're not only like helping him, but they're paying him to do it. It's it's uh it's I just had to stop and make sure yeah.

SPEAKER_02 42:43

No, it's yeah, you you're exactly right. And it's like I I I can't believe that uh God is so good that that that that he's done that. So that for him to do that for me and then to save me my life through the my heart problem. I was like, okay, Lord, I get it. I I get it, I'm here, I am here, I am yours, nothing else matters, I am yours, and so lead me, Lord, because not nothing. I mean, I I am your vessel, and and you you've saved me multiple times, and I know it now, and I get it, and I thank you for for saving me. And what can I do to to help people? Because he he doesn't want me, yeah. I haven't got my upgrade yet. Uh so when when I get my upgrade, you know, the only thing I care about when I meet Jesus is for him to to say, Well done, good and faithful servant. Because literally nothing else in my life matters. I love to say I love my wife and I love my children, but but my relationship with him is is number one, and I'm going to do whatever he tells me to do.

SPEAKER_00 43:48

So take that to heart, you guys. Like just that that last word he just said, you know, what did you just say? I want you to repeat it again because I I want somebody to really hear what you just said that. Last sentence. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 44:01

So it's like I am, I am his vessel and I'm going to do whatever he he tells me to do.

SPEAKER_00 44:06

Yeah. And it's usually going to look pretty crazy. My last I I left corporate, actually worked in the corporate side of healthcare. I left in 2021 and I put up a big fight because I was like, I can't even take money from the system anymore. COVID was my big awakening. Right. So the Lord will call us into places and spaces and leave behind incomes that, you know, are, you know, they look like wonderful and oh yay, 401k, you've got all the things that you ever need. But he's gonna call you out and he'll call you up. And I'm so thankful that you have been on this journey. I know it's not been easy. I've I've been on a wild roller coaster as well, but he he loves he loves ones that are willing to say yes. So he loves everybody, of course, but it's it's the the the big yes that it's just gonna make such an impact. You already have made such an impact. So I thank you for you sharing today. What is the best way for people to get a hold of you and to hear more about your I'm gonna call it a business tree?

SPEAKER_02 45:13

Yeah, yeah, exactly. May I helping people right now is through Exodus Strong. So it's literally exodusstrong.com. And uh that's where you find the whole light code system, right? We have amazing red light therapy products, we have some really interesting frequency products, and this Exodus supplement is something that everybody should be using. It's just a super awesome supplement that adds value to your life, and then the the faith pillar, right? The to be able to pray about your health and the ways to pray for your health. And then I've got a light code software that I've created that helps you through that journey. And then another uh piece that where people can connect with me is I'm creating a community called Biohackingville, and uh the biohackingville community is where I interact with people a lot more often. It's brand new, it's just getting started, but that's where I'm going to be putting all my resources of oncology and integrative oncology and all the lessons I've learned on how to change my body from a producer to a fighter. And so I think there's lots of lessons that I've learned there that I want to make sure people understand. And then we have a uh a biohacking community that's just like, hey, anything if you're interested in biohacking and you like cold therapy or red light therapy, what is the science behind those and why would you do those? And well, one thing I do want to really quickly tell people is there's seven things that you can do for free for your health. So just this is you know my free gift to everybody, is just try to do a couple of these things and then stack them up. If you can do all seven in the day, great, right? The first one is gratitude in the morning, right? Get up and have gratitude, and it just gives you the half glass full instead of empty in your day. And it's get you when you're doing your prayers, be very grateful and say the things that you are grateful for that gets you in the right start of the day. But then make sure, from a health perspective, you're hydrating. Most people are not getting enough water. So you need, I'm about 200 pounds, so I need about a hundred ounces of water. So just do that math

Seven Free Habits To Stack Daily

SPEAKER_02 47:24

on your own and just get that much water every day. Make sure it's filtered water and good water, and sprinkle some lemon in there that will help in the morning. But then the next three are pretty simple, you but they're done typically outside, right? Go outside, get that vitamin D that we talked about earlier, get on your body. That first 45 minutes of the day, it's called blue light, and there's no UV rays in that that light, and it's just so beneficial for your body. And God designed it, right? God's the first thing he created was light. So go get some on your body. That's really important. But while you're out there, take your socks and shoes off and get your feet on God's given earth. Grounding is amazing. I didn't really believe this at all. My wife had to tell me about this because I have really sensitive feet. I thought she was crazy, but that I went and learned and researched about how positive grounding is for you. Literally just charges the negative energy in your body and refreshes the energy inside your body just by get being on God's given earth. So you do that, you get some sun, and then you do these breathing techniques, uh, deep breathing techniques that you can research Wim Hof, W-I-M-H-O-F-F, and he's got these simple breathing techniques that you can do. It's really just deep breathing, hold, and then you exhale and you do it for a specific pattern for seven minutes. And the awesome thing about that is the research shows that it'll add seven years to your life if you do those do those breathing techniques every day. So it's like you have to breathe anyway. Why not why why not just do it in this the programmatic way for seven minutes? It doesn't take very long, and it just floods your body with oxygen, and so really, really good. So those are the four things, and then the the next ones are movement, right? You need to move, you need to get up off the couch and get up off of your chair if you're working and get movement, get those 10,000 steps or whatever as many steps as you can during the day because your bot God built us to move. We need to move, and then the other one is just nutrition, right? You need you need to that your body needs 96 nutrients in a day, and so you need to make sure that you get the right nutrients inside this body, and that's why you know I'm so such an advocate for the things that God put on this earth, right? He literally gave us the things we need. So stay away from ultra-processed foods and eat good nutrition and whole foods, and that that will help a ton. And then the last one is just rest. You he that's where our bodies repair. We need to sleep well, so get a good routine in the afternoon and the late evening, get rid of all the blue lights and from you for the first next the two hours before you go to bed. So don't watch TV, don't look at your phone for for two hours before you go to bed, and it's gonna help set that circadian rhythm. You know, by you getting the sunlight early in the morning and then reducing your blue lights and lights a couple hours before you go to bed, your circadian rhythm is gonna be on point, and that that's where you recover, is uh during your sleep. And so if you do a combination of a couple of those every single day, your life is gonna improve dramatically, and then you're gonna just start adding those together. And I literally do all seven almost every single day, as much as I as much as I can. So um that those are really important for people's health. So do that, you're gonna like it, and you're gonna say, ah, this guy's not as crazy as I think he is.

SPEAKER_00 50:48

Well, and did you guys catch that too? Like, it's free, right? It's right, like he he just gave you like the world back for you know, it's here's a gift, here's a huge gift, it's a free gift that God has literally given all of us, and we can tap into it every day. I I know like I've talked to people before, you know, just suggesting the water aspect, literally, you take your weight and and cut it in half. And I've I've heard people have massive testimonials and breakthrough just even in adding in the the proper amount of water. It's free, it's free.

SPEAKER_02 51:23

Water, and it's it's something that's so simple, but you just don't think about it, right? But if you just be intentional about those things, yeah and it will make a huge difference. And you're well, that's why I call it you know, stacking, right? It's kind of bio stacking. You you stack these things on top of each other, and it's seven sounds like a lot of things, but it's they're so simple. It's like they're really not hard. And uh, if you do four one day and three the next, you know, at least you're doing some. Um but man, it's gonna help you a lot when if you do if you do them.

SPEAKER_00 51:56

Awesome. Well, thank you so much. I usually ask people at the end of the show to share any other words of advice or wisdom, and I think you just shared that with them. Yeah, there you go. So thank you so much for being on again. Do you have what is the website? If you would just speak out your website out loud, and then I'll I'll add all of your contact information in the show notes so people can get a hold of you.

SPEAKER_02 52:17

Sounds good. It's exodusstrong.com.

SPEAKER_00 52:21

Okay, perfect. Well, you've been amazing. Thank you so much. Thank you, Lord, for like keeping Rob standing strong and and continuing him on this journey to impact so many. So we thank you for that. I am gonna close with the Hope Unlocked Anchoring verse. It's may the God of hope fill you with all joy

Where To Find Rob And Closing

SPEAKER_00 52:40

and peace in believing, so by the power of the Holy Spirit you may abound in hope. And that's Romans 15, 13. So thank you, Rob, and thank you, listeners, for tuning in today. And thank you, Rob, again. I have to say, thank you for being a brave voice who's setting so many free. I'll be back with another episode next week. Thanks, listeners.

SPEAKER_02 53:01

God bless.

SPEAKER_00 53:02

Thank you.