She Had Every Reason to Lose Hope—But She Kept Saying Yes to God with Juliet Dawn

Juliet Dawn has walked through abuse, coercive control, miscarriage, the devastating loss of twins, PTSD, physical suffering, and deep grief—yet she refused to let despair have the final word. In this powerful conversation, the singer, poet, author, and entrepreneur shares how God has met her through unimaginable seasons and called her to keep using her voice. Juliet opens up about refusing to shrink, standing in her own boots, navigating comparison and gaslighting, and finding people who will lift your arms. Her story is a reminder to anchor yourself in Scripture, listen for God’s rhema word, and keep walking—because hopelessness does not have to be your destination.

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Welcome And Juliet’s Mission

SPEAKER_00 0:36

to the Hope Unlocked podcast. I'm Kristen Kurtz, your host. I pray this episode is like a holy IV of hope for your soul. Please help me welcome Juliet Dawn to the show today. Thank you for being here. I'm so excited to have her here. I I know that there's going to be so much hope that's going to be ignited here today because there were definitely some things that tried to keep me from stepping into this place today, but it's not going to stop me. So, Juliet, before we get started into your story, would you tell us a little bit about yourself?

Becoming A Yes Person

SPEAKER_01 1:07

So I'm Juliet Dawn. I'm a singer, poet, author, entrepreneur, business owner. I recently recorded in Nashville. I've been a Christian my whole life. And I'm on the road to getting a vision together to hit the road with a show, which is I'm going to be a vehicle for bringing hope into hopelessness and light into dark places. So I've got a lot on at the moment. Well, I mean, some coaches will say things like, Oh, well, you need to prune, you need to prune what you do, and you know, cut back and things. But I'm just a great believer to go through the doors that God has opened. They're the right doors to go through. And he'll give you the energy, the grace, the tenacity to fulfill the doors that he has opened up. And so when I got asked to do pod podcasts, like, do I want to do podcasts? Yes, I do, because God's called that. Okay, so let's do that. You know, can I write a book? Yes, I can, because God's called me to do that. You know, just I think you need discernment, but when you know that God's opening the doors in the season for such a time as this, then I just believe in saying yes.

SPEAKER_00 3:08

Have you have you always found yourself to be one that would say yes? Like, you know, throughout your life where you'd say yes, maybe before you would even know how the process would go. I find a lot of people are more of like, I have to know the process before I say yes.

SPEAKER_01 3:26

I know, I'm a yes girl, really. Like I always, even from being very young, this kind of even in the secular, this sense of adventure and go get, and what is out there in life to achieve to make a difference for eternity. And then the spiritual, even more so, it's like I want to make a difference for eternity. And what happens if I don't do that thing, and I was meant to do that thing? And so I find that my spirit is curious, my energy is always up, my radar is very busy, and so I yeah, I want to say yes to things. I sometimes say no to things, but not very often.

SPEAKER_00 4:12

Yeah. Well, what would you say to somebody who, you know, maybe they're on the brink of saying yes to something and they know that God's leading them to it, but maybe they're listening to the people that are around them and they're like, who do you think you are to do something like that?

SPEAKER_01 4:27

Yeah. Well, I mean, God designed and created each of us for a purpose. And if he's calling individuals into something, it's probably because it's part of your destiny. And even more so if it's something that feels too big or too uncomfortable, because that is very, very God, very Jesus to try to stretch us, mould us, refine us. Because when we're not stretched, if we're just going to walk into something that's easy, ordinary, or mundane, then we're not gonna be stretched, challenged, we're not gonna grow. It's only by stepping into things that we feel God has called us to that we are going to become and grow into a season of new challenges, new chapters, new opportunities, and finding out what's on our scroll. And so I would encourage people, you know, you and I were talking earlier just about, you know, when we see mountains and God sees movements. And I would encourage people that if something in front of you looks too big, you know, that's when you have to lean on God, and that's where He wants us. He wants us leaning on Him. So we don't do things in our own strength. So I would always say, you know, cautiously, I say, because sometimes there are doors which look look open, but if God's trying to close it, we need the discernment for that. But if God's asking, opening, and equipping, mobilizing, then we just have to, like, spiritually speaking, put our big girl pants on because we can't always be at school our whole life. You know, sometimes we have to go out and be the teacher.

SPEAKER_00 6:28

So that's so good. I love that. So I love what you mentioned about the stretching because I think it's it's so important that the things that God calls us into, they are going to be stretching, right? They're not gonna they're not gonna be easy. What would you say, you know, of all the things that he's called you into? What has been like the most stretching for you? And you're kind of like, you know, you said yes, but you're just like me, like, you know, I've I've had some of those moments of like, really me? You know, like yes, but me? You know what I mean? Kind of like Moses.

SPEAKER_01 7:04

Well, I mean, what he's calling me to me into now is a huge challenge, and I'll come to

Nashville Recording And Disruptor Boots

SPEAKER_01 7:12

that in a moment. But last year I went to record in Nashville, and that is Music City. You know, everyone in that city has got hopes, dreams, aspirations. And to turn up as an unsigned British artist in Nashville in my 50s, with my 80-odd-year-old mum, with a bunch of songs that we felt were anointed and God-given. And to turn up at the Castle Recording Studio, which incidentally is Al Capone's old summer home, and to turn up there and sort of go, okay, here I am. I'm in my own boots, I've got a vision, I've got a mission, I know who I am, and I'm here to do it. That was a pretty big challenge, honestly. I I really believed that it was going to be like a sprinkly, lovely experience that I'd remember for all my life, like I'm gone to Nashville and recorded an album. But actually, it wasn't like that. It was more like, as I explained to people, going through the back of the wardrobe and finding Narnia. You don't know there's powers and there's frenemies and there's seductions, and do I listen to that person? Oh, go over here. Oh, you don't know the pathways, you don't know to sway this way or sway that way. And just having to come home back to the accommodation every night and stand again in my own boots, in the strength, call, and authority of what God had called me to, that's really hard. Comparisons are inevitable. You know, I'm filtering everything that comes out of your mouth because you don't want people to think you're crazy or not good enough. Filtering what comes in because you are wanting to make the right connections and take the right advice on board. And it's happening every day, all day. It's exhausting. But I just found that I just had to keep going back to who God called me to be and to fulfill that, not try to worry too much about what people thought about me. But that was a daily decision, so yeah, that was a really huge challenge. And then to have my session players who'd all played for big names in Nashville, you know. And I was like, Well, I haven't, but but when I started telling them my story, and I was like, Well, I'm here because I God's called me because he's brought me through this incredible journey, and I started talking about that. They were like, Oh my god, oh my gosh, your story needs to be a Hollywood movie, you know. Like, I was like, I know, I know, it doesn't seem real. And so that was my validation. The fact that God's given me a testimony, which is incredible. So I don't need the tick box of who I've played for and who I haven't and what I've done. It's like, I feel God gave me the validation through everything that He's brought me through. So that was a big, big challenge. And then right now I'm putting a six-piece show band on the road, and I don't like being the boss, I don't like being in charge of the musicians and the tracks and the costumes and making the decisions about rehearsals and just having to be in charge for every aspect of getting this thing on the road. It's really stretched me a lot.

SPEAKER_00 11:21

I actually have. Do you remember this little guy? Who is that? Gumby. He's stretched. I have this like in front of my computer. Do you remember?

SPEAKER_01 11:33

We don't we don't we know, we have a similar one in the UK.

SPEAKER_00 11:36

Well, Gumby Gumby was very stretchy. Just a reminder to use something. I love I love your stretch here. I have to ask a question. Did they know you were coming to Nashville? Or did you just show up?

SPEAKER_01 11:50

Oh, yes. No, I mean the producer knew that I was coming.

SPEAKER_00 11:53

Okay, because I I was it could be one or the other. It was like, I'm showing up, I'm doing my thing.

SPEAKER_01 11:58

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 11:58

You had appointments.

SPEAKER_01 12:00

Yeah, it took a lot of planning to, you know, to get the timing and the studio and the songs, and he obviously had to book the session players and the studio time and all of everything. So it was like, but I could tell that he was a bit like, who is his girl coming from the UK? Like, who even is she? And I just stood in my boots in the call of God, and I I actually began taking on the role of a disruptor. Because Nashville, like I say, it is it's quite lid on the box, and I mean that in the best way, like it's mainly country through and through, everybody's playing the system in the system and playing the game, everyone's doing the cog linked to another cog. And I just kind of felt, I don't know, I just found like that my boots were disruptors' boots, and I, you know, just coming along to be like, I said, I when I got to the studio, I was like, How many other people from the UK have ever recorded here? Like, and he was like, actually, I've never recorded anyone from the UK. And this was like, okay, that's great, that's a first. A moment in the sand. And then, as like I say, as I went on, I found that I didn't need the credentials that everybody had. I just needed to walk in the authority of my overcoming of my journey, of the boldness of Christ, of generosity, and just speaking out a different way. Because, you know, I I don't see mountains, I see movements. And so what seemed like a mountain to become established, to do this thing, to get it finished and completed, and to be running, you know, in Narnia, to be running with the big boys, it seemed like an impossible thing. But I just like I say, just got my disruptor boots on and started, you know, s speaking to the professional musicians there about God, about overcoming, about my chapters, about truth, about faith, about and not being phased or overwhelmed or overshadowed by people's own secular achievements.

SPEAKER_00 14:40

That's so good. Now, do you actually did you buy some boots that are actually disruptor boots in it? Because I actually the Lord instructed me in 2021, or was it no 2020 to get some like combat boots? And I bought some as a prophetic reminder of like some of the things he was calling me into. Really? Do you have some disruptor boots?

SPEAKER_01 15:00

Yeah, I have lots of disruptor boots, actually. I'm a big fan of a brand called Lafina, they're a Danish boot, and they're proper bother boots. They're very comfy. And uh they are proper disruptor boots.

SPEAKER_00 15:15

Okay, you'll have to share a link with me. Maybe we can put them in the show notes. So you were you were sharing your testimony with people in the studio. Would you be open to sharing that with us today?

SPEAKER_01 15:26

Yeah. I mean, honestly, my life has been crazy. It's quite hard to keep it short because it's a long journey through a

A Life Marked By Trauma

SPEAKER_01 15:33

lot of different things. But basically, at 21, I prayed a prayer to God. I want to want to make a difference no matter the cost. And He started me on that journey of making a difference no matter the cost, and giving me this incredible story from that moment at 21. So basically, from then, really, I had 10 years of abuse in a relationship, and lots of scary things happened in those 10 years. But they challenged my faith roots because when you're in a coercive control relationship, someone can argue that black's white and white's black, and that you know you don't know what you're talking about, and this and that. And but my childhood faith roots were deep, and so was my identity, and so was my and so was my you know, my love anchor as well. They were all deep, but they were all tested, because if I'd had flimsy roots, I'd have been blown over and crushed, and I'd have probably ended up in a mental home. But every day I was just relying on God, you know, confirming my identity. I understood black from white and white from black. I knew good from bad and you know, and evil from good. I knew. And so I came out of that very toxic, troubling, incredibly destructive relationship intact. I was emotionally scared of beaten up, you know. It was like, wow, that was a ride. But I was intact, I still knew who I was, I still was who I was, and it hadn't shifted any of my thoughts and knowledge about faith and the world and eternity and who's who and what's what. But I very quickly came out of that into other difficult chapters of my life. I was in professional music at the time as an entertainer, and I got in with another band, and that band stole all my equipment, and they stole my van and stole my passport, and then I really did feel vulnerable. I just thought, oh my gosh, now I have nobody to protect me in this world, and so when I anyway, I ended up meeting somebody else and who I'm still currently married to, but we're separated, and we had three miscarriages, and then just straight up, like really terrible, and then God gave a prophetic word that he would give me a son, Samuel, and we'd already decided that we had a son and we'd call him Sam, and so I was like, okay, the next time pregnant, it's gonna be fine. So I got pregnant, had a head-on car crash, seven weeks pregnant, but anyway, just God had given me that word and it sustained me and it allowed me to know that this was gonna be okay. And he was okay, but God tried to take uh sorry, the enemy tried to take Sam out when he was born. It was a very, very difficult birth, and he had to be sucked out in the end. And he he he had a a troubled childhood because he was he had global delay, he couldn't hear, he had glue ear, he had gastroenteritis, nearly died. When he was when he was one, I was got pregnant again with twins. It was a very, very rocky ride this time, more so. And um the twins had twin-to-twin transfusion and they had to be separated in the womb at just over 20 weeks. But the procedure went wrong, and the registrar pulled out the probe too fast, so he pushed it back in. I got air and water in my system, so I nearly died. Then I had to go in isolation in hospital at 26 weeks for a month, and they were born at 30 weeks and two days, but they both died within four days.

SPEAKER_02 19:45

Oh my gosh.

SPEAKER_01 19:46

And I never got to see Louis, the little twin, alive. But Elliot survived for four days, and we passed him around as three times he was taken away to the morgue and brought back because his heart, he wasn't breathing, but his heart was still beating. That was, you know, an incredibly crushing pivotal chapter of my life because the trauma was so deep that I lost my singing voice, I lost my health, I lost everything really, the stability, couldn't work, it was terrible. But equally at that time, when I was crying out to God, why He gave me a word that somebody brought to me at the beginning of a conference on a lined bit of paper. I'd met her at breakfast, didn't know her, and it said, This is the time for the lament. Who will write my laments, who will minister to my heart, who will touch the tear that is there? You have suffered the very depths of grief a human heart can bear and have remained true to me. So as you weep for your lost sons, will you share your pain and my pain as I weep for my lost sons? He said, My broken church, my broken Israel, my broken bride. And so, really, God gave me this commission in my pain to share his pain. And at the same time, because I couldn't sing, I'd lost my I'd lost my voice, he gave me the gift of poetry, and I started to write prolifically. But this was still just very much in the middle of the journey. After that time, and I was broken physically and emotionally, I had another miscarriage at the same time that I was actually in the X Factor process for Simon Cow. And anyway, my father-in-law was diagnosed with cancer, and we had to ask to leave the boot camp process. And when I got to the train station, I did a pregnancy test, found out I was pregnant. But like I say, I went on to lose that child and died in the same 48 hours that my father-in-law died. Just it was literally traumas coming thick and fast one after the other. I had another son, Max, which was miraculous because God told me that I was pregnant and I didn't know I was or think I was or wasn't even trying to be. But I told my mum so that I had a kind of witness. And as I started putting the days in the weeks in the diary tentatively, when I got to 30. uh to 3rd of December, uh which was the date the twins had been born born on at 30 weeks and two days. It was 30 weeks and two days. So I knew that this pregnancy gestation was mirroring to the day the gestation of the twins. And I knew that it was God's way of saying that there this was a redemption for every day of trauma. This was a redeeming day where his handprint and thumbprint was on it and my head could rest in his certainty and assurance. And sure enough that's been Max is 19 now and the story of his life has just been easy untraumatic and you know a real miracle and blessing. But anyway time went on and I pulled obviously still very much going through trauma and emotional stuff, grief, bereavement and I pulled the garage door down on my head and smashed it open and I had a nervous breakdown at that time. And then from that ended up having PTSD and night traumas and so many difficult things. So I I was really now layering up like an onion trauma upon trauma upon trauma when at 43 I became pregnant again with Leo. And at the 12 I started bleeding heavily at the 12 week scan no just before the 12 week scan and I went took myself to hospital because it was bleeding through my clothes and incidentally this was the same day it was the 3rd of December it was the anniversary of the twins birth and we'd just taken Sam and Max the other two children to the grave to say Mum's pregnant these are your brothers but you know they died unfortunately and you'll see them again in heaven but mum's pregnant so this is going to give you an well it was only an hour after that I was bleeding through my clothes and took myself to hospital. They said my placenta had slipped and I needed to come back on Monday after bed rest. And when I went they told me that it was gastrosgysis that the bowel was growing outside the body and they said to me that I should be grateful it's not an omphaliceal which is a different bowel out condition that comes with chromosomal abnormalities. So they sort of set me on this rocky pregnancy road yet again. And as the pregnancy went well first of all what I should say is that from day one we started praying that was the prayer strategy was to speak to Leo's spirit in the womb to ask him and pray to partner with the father as he was being knitted together to follow the light and we had this very consistent prayer strategy. But I had another nervous breakdown in that pregnancy because I was so done emotionally I was so done faith my you know my faith was holding on but spiritually it was a battle it was a thick battle physically I was weak and I just couldn't handle the pressure and I had another nervous breakdown but somehow managed managed to get through the pregnancy because then they told me it was an onphalacy and that he was going to have chromosomal abnormalities and they insisted that I had an amniocentesis but all the cultures got infected so they couldn't give me the answers that I needed and then right at the end of that pregnancy the when I went to see the top surgeon and they scanned me and they said we can't see the bowel and I said yeah well that's good right because I'm a Christian and I've been praying and that means the bowel's gone back in and they were like no there it's impossible it's medically impossible and never been known because it can't go back in after 12 weeks the abdomen closes up and it can't go back in. So the fact that you can't see the bowel means that it's become detached and so probably dis and disintegrated in the amniotic fluid and so you know it's likely that he'll have half a bowel and the bowel is got it's ruptured so it won't work properly. And they gave me this doom prognosis. So I said I want to go and rewrite my birth plan so let me go and see the head of special care and he allowed me to go and the head of special care remembered me he was the guy who'd brought both my twin boys to me as with they were dying so when I went and wrote rewrote my birth plan he was like fair enough just we'll go with what you want whatever you want and I was like great because if you if he's born and he's he does a we or opens his bowels to prove that his bowels joined up you bring him to me I'll stay in hospital as long as you like for to do tests but you bring him to me. And that's what happened so I had a cesarean on D-Day sixth of the six twelve at 1212 he was born and God had put his bowel back in the body a total medical precedent and it was just amazing God put this bright yellow bright yellow like a marigold glove like a sunflower bright yellow thing where he'd done the miracle and oh my gosh they didn't know what it was so they cut the umbilical card right up here because they didn't know what it was I'd never seen it before and it was like God's market with God's glory at the miracle site you know Leo is 14 he was 14 in June just a couple of weeks ago and you know it's perfect and healthy and wonderful but even after that you know I then went on I then went on to have more trauma moved to moved here to Cornwall and had a series of circumstantial things with people and business and bad things happening to me and I had another nervous breakdown. And then I started with night traumas and physical debilitations so I was having every algae you can think of trigeminal neuralgia costochondritis they they diagnosed me with fibromyalgia which incidentally I didn't accept that label my mum said to me don't sign the receipt for it and I was like so I told the doctor I haven't got fibromyalgia I've got trauma and I'm dealing with it but I haven't got you know so I was telling him just like we can just take her boots yes yes I was I was literally saying don't write that in my medical records I haven't got that costochondritis well I'm I'm suffering from it but I haven't got it so I was literally trying to defy every label but I was in a bad way with night traumas and all sorts because in my in my hair in my sleep the night traumas were awful and terrible but actually no worse than what my real life had experienced. So my psyche my body was not able to tell the difference between sleep and wake so having to get up like several times in the night to eat to tell my body that this is the real life version and the the nightmare traumas aren't real but I couldn't tell the difference because they were both equally horrid that went on for a long time and a lot of prayer a lot of years of peeling those onion layers back but then there was just more kept coming on I had two poisonous spider bites on my leg and I nearly died and then I had an electric shock. Okay where did this happen? Because you're in the country yes it's it's called a false widow spider it's the cousin of the black widow and delivers a neurotoxin and it also weed on me so I didn't so it wasn't like three toxins in one go I didn't know that I'd been bitten because it he denithised the spider had an wee on you. So this was really bad. You know I was I didn't know what it was it was diagnosed like eight months later because I found I had a photograph of my leg which a specialist then went what's that there on your leg and I said I don't know it's just a mole and he was like no just stretch the picture out and he went that's puncture wounds that's two spider bites right there. But it was already in my system by then because it was eight months later but I nearly died and then had an electric shock which is now why I have curly hair I actually had straight hair my whole life until I had this really bad electric shock which also nearly killed me and then we went into COVID and I had electromagnetic poisoning because my body was so toxed out with the spider bite that I could not tolerate any electromagnetic from my phone from devices from Bluetooth from why no nothing like towers yeah so I started to convulse and suffocate I couldn't breathe which was probably one of the most scariest things in my life to come out of I found somebody a naturopath in Israel who gave me a detox program to get the spider bite toxin to cleanse my body to you know to find a way to try to live again but it was very very harsh and actually that nearly killed me too because they it stripped my muscles and everything in me's back so far that my respiratory muscles started to collapse yeah very very scary so then I had to build myself back up again and all these terrible episodes are long chapters long days long nights long tears despair fear you know so many many many things and you know I have come through so much but the traumas themselves of these things became the traumas in their own right of dealing with the physic the scare of these physical things and not being able to breathe suffocating and feeling like you're dying you know heart attack symptoms so many when you're when your life force is failing that in itself is a trauma and so I've really had to rely on God massively and only and Jesus heals and went to the cross to pay for everything and God created me and gave me my purpose and destiny and so over the years I've I've surrendered to that process in healing ministry in trauma ministry it's just totally surrendering rendering to the ministry of the Holy Spirit so much so that you know I I now like I say I I boldly went to Nashville and do that did that thing and then I went back again and recorded Christmas EP and now I have a manager in Nashville and I have an EP and an album and now I'm getting on the road with my own show band and no one would ever look at me and automatically think I'd come through all of that stuff. Not even one iota like what I do and be like oh she's been through so much it you know I'm reading Job right now again yes that is my counterpart he is my counterpart yes literally I've come through the most you know the hardest 35 years but I still managed to keep my faith I still managed to hold my identity and keep the vision of my purpose and remembering the prayer I paid at 21 I want to make a difference no matter the cost. And so I knew that the purpose of God allowing all this in my life was to bring about an incredible testimony which was going to fulfill that prayer of making a difference. So now I get to live outside of the onion and I get to do things which you know get to make an eternal difference and that is ultimately why I would never choose chosen or would not choose to go through what I've been through but equally if that makes an eternal difference that will be a legacy forever then I'm okay with that God allowed me to go through that to bring something beautiful and lasting through it.

SPEAKER_00 36:21

Well I I have to ask like I know you said you know through this whole journey and all of the trials

Handling Job’s Friends And Support

SPEAKER_00 36:27

and tribulations did you have people in-person people that were supporting you or did you have Job's friends?

SPEAKER_01 36:38

Yes I had both okay believe you me because I would love to hear how you dealt with Job's friends yes I well again for me Job's friends were no competition with my deep roots my deep roots strong identity and the the vision and call that I've carried in my spirit you can't knock that over easily when that is purpose to every part of your being and you've lived and hung on to that call so Job's friends were ups are upsetting but I'm afraid did not manage to contend successfully with the truth of the situation because Job's friends would argue you know that I was a terrible mother because I wasn't able to do X, Y, and Z. A terrible mother because you are you there you are lying in your bed you know like all the really crushing debilitations of the weight of the trauma you can't function normally you can't and if you try to you end up worse because you have to listen to your body at those times when your body's out for the count and sometimes it's God bringing you to the sidelines to rely on him and to find that strength but yes I had Job's friends definitely character assassinating me for sure and now you know I look back and I had a few special people as well as a church I went a more of a kingdom family than a church family because my parents are pastors my mum runs a fellowship you know my mum specifically was the main character in holding up my arms being you know my champion and you know ministering to me and you know taking me through the the the mature spiritual process of dealing with that trauma from a ministry point of view and deliverance some of it was deliverance as well wrong soul ties and you know fear and victim spirit so many different aspects when you've been through all of that because they leave scars in your soul in your spirit then there's wounds where the enemy can get in but my mum was a tower of strength a tower of wisdom is always telling me don't go I I'm not gonna let you go down to that pity party because the enemy the devil would be the first one to bring the party hats and the tea cakes I'm not gonna let you go down to the pity party I love your mom yeah and so I used to just have to keep pulling myself you know she'd always have a Rhema word a word of wisdom encouragement and you know sometimes or when all you can do is stand she'd just stand with me. And you know there were other champions along the way people in the kingdom family and people whose ministry was as a prophet like Lana Vorza and Veronica West people in my network core circle who ministered to me in very special ways and made me know that I was to hold on to the vision to hold on to my identity and to hold on to the purpose for my life and you know I still look back and find Job's friends very upsetting. I guess you'd call that now gaslighting in modern terminology. I'd say and you know I've had it a lot now and I've learned I guess you hold on to the rhema words you hold on to your faith you take Bible scriptures that are for you as your handrail and as your anchor and don't let go of them and somehow Job's friends become insignificant in the light of your purpose and your destiny amen so I have to know and I was going to ask you like what verses or verse did you stand on during this time well I'm glad you asked that because this is another facet to this story that I want to tell because it's incredible more incredible than what you've already shared it's part of the story. It's a golden it's a golden thread. Gold gold yes it's like the kinsugi you know kinsuki what's that

The Lost Song Found Again

SPEAKER_01 41:30

the Japanese art called kintsugi where they use yeah all right okay well at 21 at the time that I made this prayer I want to make a difference no matter the cost God showed me a revelation from his perspective which again I guess is what he did when he answered my question why about the twins so he was sharing his pain and asking me to share his pain and so I I got a God's eye insight. But he did that for me at 21 when I prayed and he showed me the earth from his perspective and really like what I saw was like a rat race even worse than a rat race it was humanity as ants running across the surface of the earth in pursuit of what wealth fame status goods material things and God's grieving heart at that time was impacted on me so strongly the ephemeral ephemerality ephemerality of life the shallow and and totally fruitless pursuit without salvation without accepting Jesus without having the way the truth and the life this is a shallow hollow rat race and so God gave me an evangelistic heart at that point and that very same day I wrote the words to a song from Ecclesiastes 3 11 There's a time and I went to my mum and I said I think I've written a song and she went yes I think I have so my mum's a composer as well as being a pastor and a credible ministry and we went to the piano and she'd written the melody and I'd written the words and they fitted she had already written a melody prior to you like at the same time in the same time frame and the melody and the words fitted together perfectly then this beautiful incredible song was born and it goes this is the it starts like this and have you wonder to what life is all about why there is sometimes peace sometimes strife why there is suffering why little children starve yet men they cling so strong to life while God's made all things lovely in their time eternity is planted in our minds to every purpose underneath the sky there's a reason a season A time to laugh, a time to cry, a time to live, a time to die. A time when men no longer will ask why. There's a time. And that's you know, the first verse. I was gonna ask you to sing and you already did. Oh well, it just seemed the best way to do it. So that was the song that was born. This incredibly poignant song that at the time people were like, Oh my gosh, this should be the theme tune to a movie. And when we recorded it 32 years ago, Paul McCartney, sound engineer, came in the studio as I was recording it and said the same thing. He said, Tell her this is a very special song, it should be the theme tune to a movie, and tell her never to sell it, at least not cheaply. Anyway, we lost the song in the days before digital, when it was analog, the recording studio recorded over that song, and we lost our version. And even though we knew that song had incredible destiny and that it was born from that eureka moment, we'd lost it. It was gone. We tried to have renew arrangements of the song done, but it didn't work out, and we just laid it to rest. However, just before we went to Nashville in 2025, my mum came in the lounge waving this CD at me, like she said, You'll never guess what I found. Like, what? Oh my gosh, it's there's a time. She says, I've just found it. And we put it on in the lounge. We had a guest with us at the time, and we all just got goosebumps. We all just felt that anointing and the incredible purpose and destiny of that song had just managed to grow over the years that it had been lost. But what I realized there and then is that song that God had given me was actually a prophetic overview of my life. A prophetic overview of what I was gonna go through, the suffering, the seasons, how eternity was planted in my mind. I've got gone to goosebumps just thinking about it.

SPEAKER_00 47:13

There was an eagle when you said your mom found it. There was an eagle flying right here.

SPEAKER_01 47:18

Oh, really? That's amazing. It i I was blown away that God had known the beginning from the end, that he'd purposed that song, and that he'd shown me, although I didn't realise it, he'd mapped out the journey that was going to be the route to making a difference no matter the cost. And then when we found the song and we were going to go to a conference in Nashville, we took it and performed it. And the room just you could hear a pin drop, the room just stood still. The Holy Spirit, the anointing. And I heard tears from stage. People, it was breaking down barriers, it was melting people's hearts, and it was really touching people in in a way that I've only seen that song do. And so I knew then the song that got a birth back in that Eureka moment had purpose, it had destiny, it was prophetic over my life. And that is this verse of scripture that stays with me now and that resonates through almost every part of my journey that I go through. There's a time and a season and a purpose for everything under under the sky.

SPEAKER_00 48:49

Now, were through those years, were you reminded of that song often the lyrics, the melody?

SPEAKER_01 48:55

Do you um I think it did in part, but I was only retrospectively when I realized how profound, how profound that God graciously shown me the path for my life. But I didn't know it, not until I re-found the song. And now that song is the one that's opened the doors for Nashville for the album. It's the one that I got to record a music video of it, which is on YouTube. And you know, I went to my twin's grave to film that because I realized that this that song was about my story.

SPEAKER_02 49:38

Wow.

SPEAKER_01 49:41

God's just been incredibly, incredibly gracious. It's a thread I see now. And so much of the time I'll find little gems, things that I diamonds that I caught in the dark tunnels when it was bleak and dark and black. And I I revisit some of those diamonds now and realize how God had placed them there and how they were either pointers to the future or pointers to doors that were gonna open, or strong truths. I still, you know, like to think that I have some virtual diamonds in my pocket that God's gonna show me what they're for and and what revelation they are.

SPEAKER_00 50:29

Yeah. So incredible. So 20 was it 35 years the the time frame between the first recording and then singing it again together?

SPEAKER_01 50:42

Yes, probably yes, about 35 years.

SPEAKER_00 50:48

Yeah. So when we first got started with this recording, I remember you saying one of the things that you are called to bring to this world is hope. Yeah. Same for me. Yes. I remember, do you know Rita Springer? She's a musician. I don't know her. One of the things that she asked somebody one time was, you know, what is the thing that you're called to bring to this world? And let's just say it for us, it's hope, one of the things, right? The very thing that's gonna come for you is is usually gonna be that opposite. So hopelessness.

SPEAKER_01 51:23

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 51:23

Right? So, what would you say to somebody today who is going through something that we don't know right now? I do know that the Lord's called me to do this for the one. So if you think of somebody who's listening in today who just needs like that ivy of hope, what would you say to them?

SPEAKER_01 51:48

I would I would first of all say find yourself

Practical Hope For Hard Seasons

SPEAKER_01 51:55

a scripture, a rhema word that is your anchor and your handrail. Because those words that are for you and for your life will sustain you because that's God's promise over you. God's word does not return void, and when you have a have a promise and a word and a light and truth that you can hold on to, that is hope in hopelessness, because that is a dependable sharp sword. When Jesus was in the wilderness and he was contended by the enemy, he didn't battle him with stones or you know or any other battle means his battle was the word on his lips and in his mouth. And he contended the enemy and hopelessness and temptation with the word of God, the sharp sword, the rhema word. So find one, ask God for one. Hold on to something deep and meaningful for you, and don't let go of it. Surround yourself with people, not Job's comforters, but with people who can lift up your arms, who can speak light, truth, faith, and hope into your situation. And do practical things that help you on your journey. I would add, I would I would really like anyone who's in a hopeless position to think about Pilgrim in Pilgrim's Progress. And I say that because I've not mentioned this, but we produced a film musical of Pilgrim's Progress, and I played the part of Pilgrim. You can find that on YouTube as well. And I played it as a female because my own life had been so catastrophically traumatic that I thought I was the best person to play the part of Pilgrim in in a meaningful way. But there, you know, the on Pilgrim's journey, he encounters so many things along the journey: the slough of despond, doubting castle, the valley of the shadow of death. So many things along the way. But they are all just part of a journey. They're not sitting in hopelessness, it's not the destination, it's just part of the journey, and you have to contend the enemy and these situations with the word of God. That's the anchor, that's the plumb line, that's the truth. There's nothing else that you can rely on to speak and combat your situation. You have to use the word of God. But just like Pilgrim on that journey, sometimes you have to sit and rest. Sometimes, like when Pilgrim was in Dowting Castle and he was locked in by giant despair, he locked the door, and there was hopelessness, completely hopeless. But then you have to look for the golden key of promise, which is in your pocket all along. Because God's promises, yes, and Amen, to find, look to, hold on to, and keep pressing into the golden key of promise. There's so much in that story, that allegory that is amazing for life when we're going through hard times, tough situations. And even if you know the our film music version is an abridged version of a very, very thick, long story. An allegory that was given to John Bunyan by the Lord in his in his in a dream. But every part of that story is relevant for our lives today. There isn't any of it that is phased out or obsolete. So take courage, because as far back as time, every Bible character whose life was meant to mean anything was tested, was hopeless seemingly at times. But but God, but his living word, and but Jesus, who's already paid the price for everything that you would carry. Time to offload those burdens at the cross because those burdens will try and keep you in hopelessness. You have to daily take off all the negative things, peel off labels, victim, peel off labels of loser, peel off, you know, peel off the labels and take off the toxic baggage, dump it at the cross and hold on to the vama word of God.

SPEAKER_00 57:07

Amen. I just love you. Okay, so we're gonna I'm gonna make sure I'm gonna get some links from you to add to the show notes for your song for this Pilgrim's Progress YouTube. Have you written a song yet called No Matter the Cost? No, I haven't, but I feel like I should.

SPEAKER_01 57:27

I was saying.

SPEAKER_00 57:28

But yeah, I'm there's work for you today.

SPEAKER_01 57:31

Yeah, it's so true. I think I think there should be one coming.

SPEAKER_00 57:35

I think so. Yeah. Well, thank you so much for being on today. What is the best way for people to get in touch with you?

SPEAKER_01 57:43

I

Where To Find Juliet And Closing

SPEAKER_01 57:43

have a website, www.julietdawn.co.uk, and you should be able to find ways to contact me through there. But I'm also very active on social media. So I have several Facebook pages that I would suggest the best ones are Juliet Dawn Music and Julie Doolin, which is my per uh personal page, and I will respond on both those. But you could also reach out on Instagram via Juliet Dawn Music as well. I have a Spotify account, you can listen to you can listen to the music on there, and also a YouTube channel where you can see all the music videos and listen to some of the beautiful and really you know emotional music, which will you know you know, which can also be a key to unlocking so many desperate trials we go through in life.

SPEAKER_00 58:38

Yes. Well, just like hope unlocked, like you brought many keys today. So thank you so much. I think we'll have to have you back again. I feel like there's more for sure. That would be great. Yes. So I am gonna close with the Hope Unlocked anchoring verse, which is may the God of hope fill you with all joy and peace in believing so that by the power of the Holy Spirit you may abound in hope. And that's Romans 15, 13. So thank you so much for being on again. I will be back another episode, and thank you for being a brave voice who's setting so many free. I'll be back with another episode next week. Thanks, listeners.